Religion

Phillip McCleod

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19. (A) bullshit.

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:45 PM

Apr 2013

(B) you the hell are you to judge me?

perhaps i have the wrong idea about you.. maybe you're right. maybe you don't call every atheist a 'bigot'. but you called *me* a 'bigot' and i am not. i am an atheist, and i'm unapologetic about it. yes, i criticize religious *belief* because it is based on unfounded assumptions about nature.. human and otherwise. i confront that.

you don't like that i confront that.

therefore, in your eyes, i am a 'bigot', as you said.

until you retract that statement and apologize, let it be known that i consider *you* to be an anti-atheist bigot. you can't change my mind any more than i can change yours. *you* are the intolerant one. intolerant of reasoned critiques that oppose your viewpoint and you react with a jerk of the knee and spout off on the internet like a tough guy. well i'm a tough guy too, so where does that leave us?

with you 'ignoring' me again, i hope?

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Is Atheism Only for the Upper Class? Socioeconomic Differences Among the Religiously Unaffiliated [View all] rug Apr 2013 OP

predestination. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #1

elitism. rug Apr 2013 #2

nah, we are god's chosen people. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #3

a privilege to know you then. rug Apr 2013 #4

the door is always open Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #6

Maybe the better-off don't feel they "need" a god The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2013 #5

I don't know if many broad conclusions can be drawn from this. rug Apr 2013 #7

there is also one thing that many Atheists could learn to steal DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #8

atheists aren't organized at that level.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #11

It's certainly is a 1st word phenomenon BainsBane Apr 2013 #9

Sure, if you just disappear asia, definitely first world. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #10

Well, you realize that's a result of the Communist Party BainsBane Apr 2013 #13

All of east asia. Relatively low levels of religiousity Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #16

So you're saying that Buddhism and Taoism are not religions? BainsBane Apr 2013 #17

generally deity free. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #21

A funny line I heard in Japan... onager Apr 2013 #50

I doubt the accuracy of the statement on the level of religiosity in Asia Leontius Apr 2013 #14

you would. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #18

I see, common knowledge just like wives tales and urban legends Leontius Apr 2013 #26

Data in link posted. As I said, not an extraordinary claim, but common knowledge. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #46

And on that note one must conclude that you have no idea about the link Leontius Apr 2013 #49

You could of course provide your own evidence to falsify my assertion. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #54

it's an international phenomenon. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #12

I don't attack every Atheist BainsBane Apr 2013 #15

(A) bullshit. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #19

You still haven't showed me where I called you a bigot BainsBane Apr 2013 #20

well i'm not surprised you don't remember.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #24

given the way you've represented my prior posts BainsBane Apr 2013 #28

i do not want to make you my enemy. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #31

I have no problem with your critiquing aspects of Islam or any religion BainsBane Apr 2013 #40

and you have called me a bigot against atheists BainsBane Apr 2013 #30

perhaps i should have included.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #32

I think I made myself pretty clear BainsBane Apr 2013 #43

"So I suspect the problem is not really atheism at all " Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #22

whatever? BainsBane Apr 2013 #23

ah yes, this is your other go-to attack.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #25

I am absolutely sure poster you are replying to would NOT enjoy a conversation with me. idwiyo Apr 2013 #27

yeh, me neither. poor as dirt in fact.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #33

You have INTERNET???!!! THAT alone places you into upper middle class by default! idwiyo Apr 2013 #35

awww!! Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #37

What price BainsBane Apr 2013 #29

oh wow. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #34

No, I don't. BainsBane Apr 2013 #41

Here we go again. FEMEN has no right to show support because they are not Muslim. Or something like idwiyo Apr 2013 #38

Some teeth lost during a demonstration against Benedict XVI's homophobia muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #45

Thank you for that information BainsBane Apr 2013 #47

Obviously LostOne4Ever Apr 2013 #36

The differences seem simply to be self-description; from the survey report: struggle4progress Apr 2013 #44

it's for people who think for themselves Skittles Apr 2013 #39

pdf of whole survey here: struggle4progress Apr 2013 #42

Beyond the idea edhopper Apr 2013 #48

What about those who do struggle each day to scrape by who pray and look to God Leontius Apr 2013 #52

By definition, yes, They are choosing faith over reason. edhopper Apr 2013 #53

No, but it is true that educated elites are more likely to accept it... Deep13 Apr 2013 #51

We could flip the framing around: Does religion prey upon the poor? backscatter712 Apr 2013 #55

I've never seen that. rug Apr 2013 #56

Here's an example. Granted, this one's somewhat extreme... backscatter712 Apr 2013 #57

I don't think this is necessarily so... rexcat Apr 2013 #58