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trotsky

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45. They just had to wait until TNG to get it stated more clearly:
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:23 PM
May 2013
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: Dr. Barron, I cannot, I *will not* impose a set of commandments on these people. To do so violates the very essence of the Prime Directive!

Dr. Barron: Like it or not, we have rekindled the Mintakans' belief in the Overseer.

Commander William T. Riker: And are you saying that this belief will eventually become a religion?

Dr. Barron: It's inevitable. And without guidance, that religion could degenerate into inquisitions, holy wars, chaos.

Captain Jean-Luc Picard: Horrifying. Dr. Barron, your report describes how rational these people are. Millennia ago, they abandoned their belief in the supernatural. Now you are asking me to sabotage that achievement, to send them back into the dark ages of superstition and ignorance and fear? NO!
What month? rug May 2013 #1
Not January, March, or May. (nt) DreamGypsy May 2013 #3
Not soon enough. prole_for_peace May 2013 #2
Yeah, I wouldn't say "defeat," nor would I use the word "replace." trotsky May 2013 #4
Lol. rug May 2013 #5
They're delusional. okasha May 2013 #12
Imagine the peace and harmony of our world if there was never religion. rug May 2013 #13
We'd all be holding hands okasha May 2013 #14
Nice strawman Goblinmonger May 2013 #17
The fantasy is called the «existential security hypothesis.» okasha May 2013 #18
I wonder how they count religious atheists, such as many Buddhists. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #6
Since he calls it "the existential security hypothesis", who the hell knows? rug May 2013 #9
Will Atheism force unconditional surrender? goldent May 2013 #7
the whole god delusion is foolish Spartacus Maximus XL May 2013 #8
Football first. rug May 2013 #10
Please, not Aussie Rules Football. longship May 2013 #26
Make a list of countries where you feel you could live happily. Everyone here dimbear May 2013 #11
That could be. But since human irrationality will never vanish, struggle4progress May 2013 #15
This raises very interesting questions. hrmjustin May 2013 #16
"Religion has a lot to offer to people. " cleanhippie May 2013 #20
You have a point, but it still has a lot to offer. hrmjustin May 2013 #21
That could be said about a lot of otherwise harmful institutions. trotsky May 2013 #22
We would have conflict even if we did not have religion. hrmjustin May 2013 #23
I don't believe anyone said there wouldn't be conflict without religion. trotsky May 2013 #24
All you really can do is try your best to isolate the fundamentalists. hrmjustin May 2013 #27
Isolate them based on what? trotsky May 2013 #28
Each religion would have to come up with that definition on their own. hrmjustin May 2013 #29
But even within a religion there will be disagreement. trotsky May 2013 #32
Well that is a hard question. There are parts I take literally like the ressurection. hrmjustin May 2013 #33
You're appealing to items that have yet to be established. trotsky May 2013 #34
I do not believe that God told the bible writters what to write. hrmjustin May 2013 #35
That's your belief. trotsky May 2013 #44
Of course i can not prove it. I know that. It is all a matter of opinion. hrmjustin May 2013 #46
As is the definition of who's a "fundamentalist." trotsky May 2013 #47
Sorry i could not be more helpful. hrmjustin May 2013 #49
There is an interesing paper that touches on that topic. Jim__ May 2013 #25
Note how that worked out in China. Secular forces finally stepped up dimbear May 2013 #37
Most people understand that the various 20th century totalitarianisms are not a solution to anything Jim__ May 2013 #38
You can look at it that way, take the Chinese action merely as a warning-- dimbear May 2013 #39
So China has a system okasha May 2013 #40
There are people in China who would prefer war, peasants mostly. dimbear May 2013 #41
Wouldn't you include global inflation LostOne4Ever May 2013 #19
I am not comfortable with extrapolations. longship May 2013 #30
The issue with fundamentalism is not only with their high birth rate Meshuga May 2013 #31
Advances in science will continue to zeeland May 2013 #36
Kick for the update cleanhippie May 2013 #42
That family must not have watched Star Trek very closely... goldent May 2013 #43
They just had to wait until TNG to get it stated more clearly: trotsky May 2013 #45
And McCoy seemed to have a perpetual urge okasha May 2013 #48
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