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AtheistCrusader

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8. His deeds will dissapoint you then.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 10:43 AM
Oct 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/pope-francis-excommunicates-priest-greg-reynolds_n_3983059.html

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

"The letter, a copy of which NCR obtained and translated, accuses Reynolds of heresy (Canon 751) and determined he incurred latae sententiae excommunication for throwing away the consecrated host or retaining it “for a sacrilegious purpose” (Canon 1367). It also referenced Canon 1369 (speaking publicly against church teaching) in its review of the case. “Pope Francis, Supreme Pontiff having heard the presentation of this Congregation concerning the grave reason for action … of [Fr. Greg Reynolds] of the Archdiocese of Melbourne, all the preceding actions to be taken having been followed, with a final and unappealable decision and subject to no recourse, has decreed dismissal from the clerical state is to be imposed on said priest for the good of the Church,” read the document, signed by Archbishop Gerhard Muller, prefect for the congregation, and his secretary, Jesuit Archbishop Luis Ladaria. Excommunication refers to the severest measure of censure for Catholics and forbids an individual from participation in any eucharistic celebration or other worship ceremonies; the reception or celebration of sacraments; and holding any ecclesiastical or governing role in the church. The document, dated May 31 — coincidentally Reynolds’ 60th birthday — provided no reason for the excommunication. However, a separate letter sent Friday from Hart to his archdiocesan priests indicated Reynolds’ support of women’s ordination was a primary reason. “The decision by Pope Francis to dismiss Fr Reynolds from the clerical state and to declare his automatic excommunication has been made because of his public teaching on the ordination of women contrary to the teaching of the Church and his public celebration of the Eucharist when he did not hold faculties to act publicly as a priest,” [Melbourne Archbishop Denis] Hart wrote. But Reynolds said he believes the excommunication also resulted from his support of the gay community. He told NCR that in the last two years, he has attended rallies in Melbourne advocating same-sex marriage and has officiated at mass weddings of gay couples on the steps of Parliament — “all unofficial of course.”"
You wrote, "He is moving the roman church toward Christ's one commandment" NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #1
thanks. for the text nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #2
I have to say I like him. I hope he moves the church to be more inclusive. Time will tell and we hrmjustin Oct 2013 #3
+ 1 nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #4
Since its a rebuttal of my post, do you have any evidence for your post... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #5
I am relying on he man's words and deeds as well as faith. nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #7
His deeds will dissapoint you then. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #8
given your DU handle I assume arely staircase Oct 2013 #9
Except that this isn't about *me*, it's about people being suckered by an act. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #10
time will tell arely staircase Oct 2013 #12
Daniel O'Connel and his Catholic Association was an 18th century Irish Catholic... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #14
lol arely staircase Oct 2013 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author arely staircase Oct 2013 #30
A good post. rug Oct 2013 #6
Very nicely said and I tend to agree with you. cbayer Oct 2013 #11
What fucking change? What I see are people supporting a homophobic, misogynistic, man based on... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #13
Thanks for making my point for me. cbayer Oct 2013 #15
So instead of presenting evidence of this man's change of heart, you try to win rhetorical points? Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #16
No, I live in a totally fantasy based world where words sometimes cbayer Oct 2013 #17
But his words are words of a conservative Catholic... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #18
Some of the words I have heard him say I have not heard any Pope before him say. cbayer Oct 2013 #19
He is reaffirming, not reassessing those positions, what evidence do you have... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #20
A change in tone is not a change in substance, but that doesn't make it completely cbayer Oct 2013 #21
The statements he made about LGBT people were lifted straight out of the Catechism... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #22
It matters to me, and, more importantly, it matters to a lot of catholics. cbayer Oct 2013 #23
Problem is, I see the opposite, quite literally, when he said that... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #24
I agree that this didn't go very far and there has been some contradictory messages. cbayer Oct 2013 #26
Uhm, what? Did he tie his hands himself? Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #27
I have wondered if they really expected him to change the tone or not. cbayer Oct 2013 #29
Yeah, lol. trotsky Nov 2013 #42
Francis could consecrate a lesbian cardinal tomorrow, okasha Nov 2013 #43
WTF? trotsky Oct 2013 #28
these are not the sentiments I have ever heard from the Bishop of Rome arely staircase Nov 2013 #45
That is my position exactly. arely staircase Oct 2013 #33
Episcopalians have set a great example of how a church can cbayer Oct 2013 #36
Yes, many are skeptical. trotsky Oct 2013 #38
Finally you admit it! cleanhippie Oct 2013 #40
As you yourself have acknowledged, our positions here on the pope will have no affect on anything. trotsky Oct 2013 #25
no i just posted upthread how they have in post 33 nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #34
Great, continue to argue with the person who said it! trotsky Oct 2013 #37
I rhink you actualy mistakenly replied to me arely staircase Oct 2013 #39
My post #25 is a reply to #11, which was written by cbayer. n/t trotsky Nov 2013 #41
thank you. arely staircase Oct 2013 #31
Hello arely staircase! cbayer Oct 2013 #32
I'm skeptical of how much he will really change Bradical79 Nov 2013 #44
that is legitimate scepticism nt arely staircase Nov 2013 #46
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