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In reply to the discussion: something I posted in GD and wanted to share [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)8. His deeds will dissapoint you then.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/pope-francis-excommunicates-priest-greg-reynolds_n_3983059.html
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
"The letter, a copy of which NCR obtained and translated, accuses Reynolds of heresy (Canon 751) and determined he incurred latae sententiae excommunication for throwing away the consecrated host or retaining it for a sacrilegious purpose (Canon 1367). It also referenced Canon 1369 (speaking publicly against church teaching) in its review of the case. Pope Francis, Supreme Pontiff having heard the presentation of this Congregation concerning the grave reason for action of [Fr. Greg Reynolds] of the Archdiocese of Melbourne, all the preceding actions to be taken having been followed, with a final and unappealable decision and subject to no recourse, has decreed dismissal from the clerical state is to be imposed on said priest for the good of the Church, read the document, signed by Archbishop Gerhard Muller, prefect for the congregation, and his secretary, Jesuit Archbishop Luis Ladaria. Excommunication refers to the severest measure of censure for Catholics and forbids an individual from participation in any eucharistic celebration or other worship ceremonies; the reception or celebration of sacraments; and holding any ecclesiastical or governing role in the church. The document, dated May 31 coincidentally Reynolds 60th birthday provided no reason for the excommunication. However, a separate letter sent Friday from Hart to his archdiocesan priests indicated Reynolds support of womens ordination was a primary reason. The decision by Pope Francis to dismiss Fr Reynolds from the clerical state and to declare his automatic excommunication has been made because of his public teaching on the ordination of women contrary to the teaching of the Church and his public celebration of the Eucharist when he did not hold faculties to act publicly as a priest, [Melbourne Archbishop Denis] Hart wrote. But Reynolds said he believes the excommunication also resulted from his support of the gay community. He told NCR that in the last two years, he has attended rallies in Melbourne advocating same-sex marriage and has officiated at mass weddings of gay couples on the steps of Parliament all unofficial of course."
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
"The letter, a copy of which NCR obtained and translated, accuses Reynolds of heresy (Canon 751) and determined he incurred latae sententiae excommunication for throwing away the consecrated host or retaining it for a sacrilegious purpose (Canon 1367). It also referenced Canon 1369 (speaking publicly against church teaching) in its review of the case. Pope Francis, Supreme Pontiff having heard the presentation of this Congregation concerning the grave reason for action of [Fr. Greg Reynolds] of the Archdiocese of Melbourne, all the preceding actions to be taken having been followed, with a final and unappealable decision and subject to no recourse, has decreed dismissal from the clerical state is to be imposed on said priest for the good of the Church, read the document, signed by Archbishop Gerhard Muller, prefect for the congregation, and his secretary, Jesuit Archbishop Luis Ladaria. Excommunication refers to the severest measure of censure for Catholics and forbids an individual from participation in any eucharistic celebration or other worship ceremonies; the reception or celebration of sacraments; and holding any ecclesiastical or governing role in the church. The document, dated May 31 coincidentally Reynolds 60th birthday provided no reason for the excommunication. However, a separate letter sent Friday from Hart to his archdiocesan priests indicated Reynolds support of womens ordination was a primary reason. The decision by Pope Francis to dismiss Fr Reynolds from the clerical state and to declare his automatic excommunication has been made because of his public teaching on the ordination of women contrary to the teaching of the Church and his public celebration of the Eucharist when he did not hold faculties to act publicly as a priest, [Melbourne Archbishop Denis] Hart wrote. But Reynolds said he believes the excommunication also resulted from his support of the gay community. He told NCR that in the last two years, he has attended rallies in Melbourne advocating same-sex marriage and has officiated at mass weddings of gay couples on the steps of Parliament all unofficial of course."
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I have to say I like him. I hope he moves the church to be more inclusive. Time will tell and we
hrmjustin
Oct 2013
#3
Since its a rebuttal of my post, do you have any evidence for your post...
Humanist_Activist
Oct 2013
#5
Except that this isn't about *me*, it's about people being suckered by an act.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#10
Daniel O'Connel and his Catholic Association was an 18th century Irish Catholic...
Humanist_Activist
Oct 2013
#14
What fucking change? What I see are people supporting a homophobic, misogynistic, man based on...
Humanist_Activist
Oct 2013
#13
So instead of presenting evidence of this man's change of heart, you try to win rhetorical points?
Humanist_Activist
Oct 2013
#16
Some of the words I have heard him say I have not heard any Pope before him say.
cbayer
Oct 2013
#19
He is reaffirming, not reassessing those positions, what evidence do you have...
Humanist_Activist
Oct 2013
#20
A change in tone is not a change in substance, but that doesn't make it completely
cbayer
Oct 2013
#21
The statements he made about LGBT people were lifted straight out of the Catechism...
Humanist_Activist
Oct 2013
#22
Problem is, I see the opposite, quite literally, when he said that...
Humanist_Activist
Oct 2013
#24
I agree that this didn't go very far and there has been some contradictory messages.
cbayer
Oct 2013
#26