Atheists & Agnostics

defacto7

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12. When someone really, really, really needs to have a belief system to survive,

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 01:12 AM

Jun 2013

and their entire paradigm is found teetering on facts, there's no doubt that denial, strawmen, dismissal, and blame will be their only salvation.

You can't expect a scientific approach to reason to come from a person who can't stop drinking the booze. The addiction isn't like physical addiction, it's their entire being/self/ego that's at stake. Until they can begin to break the habit or addiction to the sum of their fears and see that there is life (and death) after truth, they can't budge and must find a way out.

I see it another way... If we were once steeped in religion, and we were able to come to the realization of our mortality and still find freedom from fear's lie, we atheists were very lucky.

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My thread in Religion Forum [View all] edhopper Jun 2013 OP

I finally got one to admit that those other gods over there are bullshit Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #1

saw that edhopper Jun 2013 #2

You hit those types of threads sometimes skepticscott Jun 2013 #3

I did not anticipate edhopper Jun 2013 #4

The question that's amazing me lately is the agnosticism vs. atheism question. deucemagnet Jun 2013 #11

There are a handful of fatal questions which never will get answered. dimbear Jun 2013 #5

I'd like to see that list. edhopper Jun 2013 #6

The most famous one which has its own pet name is 'theodicy.' dimbear Jun 2013 #7

I think edhopper Jun 2013 #8

I thought that was Homer skepticscott Jun 2013 #10

I refer to this edhopper Jun 2013 #14

I was referring to skepticscott Jun 2013 #16

Yes, it's there too edhopper Jun 2013 #17

The Earth does seem to be ruled by capricious beings. AlbertCat Jun 2013 #30

of course edhopper Jun 2013 #32

the ancient gods make more sense than the biblical God. AlbertCat Jun 2013 #35

That is edhopper Jun 2013 #36

I just read the thread heads and it gave me a headache ouch...nt uriel1972 Jun 2013 #9

When someone really, really, really needs to have a belief system to survive, defacto7 Jun 2013 #12

And the truth is skepticscott Jun 2013 #13

I just didn't think so many edhopper Jun 2013 #15

Well, you stated it about as clearly as could be skepticscott Jun 2013 #18

I have been accused several time on the thread edhopper Jun 2013 #19

And the whole concept of "live and let live" skepticscott Jun 2013 #20

it would work fine edhopper Jun 2013 #21

Yes indeed, quite overt. You deserved the highest praise, namely the dictat that you are dimbear Jun 2013 #23

Many are complaining that i am not accepting their answers edhopper Jun 2013 #24

There are special rules for logic over there. Most important is that two wrongs dimbear Jun 2013 #25

and the more wrongs defacto7 Jun 2013 #26

Because that's the standard defense pattern. trotsky Jun 2013 #27

I did get edhopper Jun 2013 #28

Here's something I'd like an answer to: Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #22

Because no one wants to die. AlbertCat Jun 2013 #31

Thanks! Lotsa Dodges in that lot... onager Jun 2013 #29

Just wanted to check back in and say that with 400+ responses, trotsky Jun 2013 #33

Could my simple little question edhopper Jun 2013 #34

It's now past 500 edhopper Jun 2013 #37