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Warpy

(111,141 posts)
1. Gods, devils, angels and demons
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 03:33 PM
Apr 2014

are what the severely ill use to try to make sense of their garbled thinking and sensory overload.

While this produced most of the saints, especially the female saints, in the official litany, these days most of us recognize the symptoms as those of a severe mental illness, not just a belief system.

The mentally ill can and do have religious beliefs. However, they stray from orthodoxy in religion as they stray from reality in their delusions.

Mentally ill people who commit heinous crimes as the end result of that illness need to be hospitalized. The punitive approach just doesn't seem quite fair since no one decides when they wake up some morning that they want to spend their lives in the terror of mental illness.

Gods, devils, angels and demons Warpy Apr 2014 #1
And yet plenty of people who are not mentally ill... trotsky Apr 2014 #2
And non religious delusional people Warpy Apr 2014 #4
as they stray from reality in their delusions. AlbertCat Apr 2014 #26
Most people don't go about their days in a delusional state Warpy Apr 2014 #27
Yes. LiberalAndProud Apr 2014 #3
Help me understand libodem Apr 2014 #6
I would say it's because the term mentally ill is very broad. Neoma Apr 2014 #7
I'm certainly not saying people are not individuals libodem Apr 2014 #8
I think you simply phrased it badly. Neoma Apr 2014 #9
I wonder if anyone has tried to send it to a jury? libodem Apr 2014 #10
My worst crime: poor phraseing Lordquinton Apr 2014 #13
If my family is an example... yellerpup Apr 2014 #5
I think a better title would be "why don't we allow the mentally ill to hold religious beliefs like Heddi Apr 2014 #11
Religion involves a great deal of behavior skepticscott Apr 2014 #12
From a clinical perspective, it is more about social norms than belief in god... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #24
Well, to me, it would be the teeth part skepticscott Apr 2014 #25
The frightening part is that's essentially par for the course in Orthodox communities... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #28
Great post, Heddi. trotsky Apr 2014 #14
Stop making sense. Iggo Apr 2014 #15
What if Religion amuse bouche Apr 2014 #16
Sure they can, EvilAL Apr 2014 #17
MIRACLE!!! onager Apr 2014 #18
Yeah, it's never the religious beliefs causing the problem, just the mental illness..... Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2014 #20
Well, that becomes a very sticky issue when the distinction between psychotic religious delusion Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #19
I have found that faith and belief Lordquinton Apr 2014 #22
I'm not convinced "you choose your religion" is accurate for ~90% of the population. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #29
So very true Lordquinton Apr 2014 #30
Well I did... nt uriel1972 Apr 2014 #21
Yes. Iggo Apr 2014 #23
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