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Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
13. My worst crime: poor phraseing
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 03:18 AM
Apr 2014

I understand and agree with you that it can be taken in an offensive manner, but I would then follow up with why take offence when it is directly brought up like this, when no one peeps about it when it's heavily implied?

It is a broad and almost meaningless term, everyone has something that can qualify them as mentally ill, and the fear of being labeled such leads to many who need help to not seek it. It's a scape goat for the right wing (look at the NRA pushing mental examinations for gun ownership) and it's almost as bad of a label as Atheist.

I find the best way to eliminate the stigma of such terms is to use them, talk about it like they're people and not some savage beast to be locked away.

There was also a paragraph about ableism that I cut because I didn't want to distract from the point, and didn't want religinists to feel like they're just being called up a made up name. Theism is rife with ableism, only the worth can walk again, their beliefs don't count they are mentally ill, even the inverse with putting the handicapped who do good on a pedestal, using autistic children to get likes and so on (big on using the handicapped to get more likes for god).

Gods, devils, angels and demons Warpy Apr 2014 #1
And yet plenty of people who are not mentally ill... trotsky Apr 2014 #2
And non religious delusional people Warpy Apr 2014 #4
as they stray from reality in their delusions. AlbertCat Apr 2014 #26
Most people don't go about their days in a delusional state Warpy Apr 2014 #27
Yes. LiberalAndProud Apr 2014 #3
Help me understand libodem Apr 2014 #6
I would say it's because the term mentally ill is very broad. Neoma Apr 2014 #7
I'm certainly not saying people are not individuals libodem Apr 2014 #8
I think you simply phrased it badly. Neoma Apr 2014 #9
I wonder if anyone has tried to send it to a jury? libodem Apr 2014 #10
My worst crime: poor phraseing Lordquinton Apr 2014 #13
If my family is an example... yellerpup Apr 2014 #5
I think a better title would be "why don't we allow the mentally ill to hold religious beliefs like Heddi Apr 2014 #11
Religion involves a great deal of behavior skepticscott Apr 2014 #12
From a clinical perspective, it is more about social norms than belief in god... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #24
Well, to me, it would be the teeth part skepticscott Apr 2014 #25
The frightening part is that's essentially par for the course in Orthodox communities... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2014 #28
Great post, Heddi. trotsky Apr 2014 #14
Stop making sense. Iggo Apr 2014 #15
What if Religion amuse bouche Apr 2014 #16
Sure they can, EvilAL Apr 2014 #17
MIRACLE!!! onager Apr 2014 #18
Yeah, it's never the religious beliefs causing the problem, just the mental illness..... Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2014 #20
Well, that becomes a very sticky issue when the distinction between psychotic religious delusion Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #19
I have found that faith and belief Lordquinton Apr 2014 #22
I'm not convinced "you choose your religion" is accurate for ~90% of the population. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #29
So very true Lordquinton Apr 2014 #30
Well I did... nt uriel1972 Apr 2014 #21
Yes. Iggo Apr 2014 #23
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