2016 Postmortem

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)

1. When folks catch on to crap like that, it often backfires

Reply to cali (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:02 AM

Jan 2016

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

143 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

David Axelrod on Chelsea's attack on Bernie: "It wasn't an honest attack" [View all] cali Jan 2016 OP

When folks catch on to crap like that, it often backfires Jarqui Jan 2016 #1

yeah, "she sent her only daughter out to lie for her, to thousands of people" zazen Jan 2016 #2

No longer human, just a machine. I'm not looking for a 'grandmother' anyway. ViseGrip Jan 2016 #6

Robotic abuela? Helen Borg Jan 2016 #29

i can picture that... yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #38

I'd say more like this: d_legendary1 Jan 2016 #49

or more like Mom from Futurama. nt Javaman Jan 2016 #63

I hate you. winter is coming Jan 2016 #108

And it was done so awkwardly. PWPippin Jan 2016 #12

Better at lying, eh. pangaia Jan 2016 #62

Just Goes To Show That The ENTIRE FAMILY Has Some Serious "Personal Character" Issues CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #142

Yeah, I must say this for her - SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #105

Thousands? ybbor Jan 2016 #27

It is "millions, and millions, and millions" on the internet. cui bono Jan 2016 #97

Another misfire from Camp HRC Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #3

I saw clips of her on "Ellen" that CBS showed the other day deutsey Jan 2016 #14

Have you seen her 75 minutes with the Des Moines Register Editorial Board? CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #57

Wow, she really does look tired. Kentonio Jan 2016 #92

Bernie has met with the DSR editorial board CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #96

Thank you! Kentonio Jan 2016 #99

Thank you also! swilton Jan 2016 #118

Please make an OP once all three interviews have been done. winter is coming Jan 2016 #127

Will do! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #138

Thanks for posting this - maybe consider an OP? Juicy_Bellows Jan 2016 #120

Thanks for link...nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #133

Bill had real charm - she doesn't. 840high Jan 2016 #121

They are conducting the last 20th century campaign. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #65

Is it not great that the people are not dumb? The Washington talking heads were so wrong. daybranch Jan 2016 #132

Swing and a miss! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #4

lol Armstead Jan 2016 #72

social media is on fire restorefreedom Jan 2016 #5

I hope Bernie steps in to say he respects that a daughter is loyal to her mother zazen Jan 2016 #15

I hope he doesn't infantilize her in that way. winter is coming Jan 2016 #18

Clinton herself has used this BS dating back to November pengu Jan 2016 #21

rhetorically he should literally "infantilize" her--that'd be my advice anyway zazen Jan 2016 #24

The media might have this, and leave Sanders only having to say ... Babel_17 Jan 2016 #77

yep. Thank heavens. Sad for Chelsea but it did just fall in our lap. n/t zazen Jan 2016 #80

No. Chelsea's already torpedoed her own credibility. winter is coming Jan 2016 #91

100 percent correct. eom SusanaMontana41 Jan 2016 #126

I heard one of his responses and he corrected the message, not the messenger... CTyankee Jan 2016 #125

Exactly. And she lied to smear a good person. cui bono Jan 2016 #98

"Tacky"!? Seriously? If anything was tacky, it was Gene Debs Jan 2016 #22

y'all do get that we're going to need some of these Clinton supporters in Nov? zazen Jan 2016 #26

They got over it in '08 Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #74

Very True! Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #101

Pragmatic voters who won't mind voting for a proud proponent of a progressive Democratic platform Babel_17 Jan 2016 #78

Good post, I agree 100% sammythecat Jan 2016 #90

Not as if it's Chelsea's first campaign, either. John Poet Jan 2016 #141

No, she's not a child in any context. She's a daughter. cali Jan 2016 #23

if it makes you feel better, restorefreedom Jan 2016 #32

I also wasn't personally criticizing you but the supposed social media posts zazen Jan 2016 #35

oh i didn't take it as a criticism at all restorefreedom Jan 2016 #40

That loyality justification is just one step away from "I was only following orders." sarge43 Jan 2016 #34

Very well said lastone Jan 2016 #47

She's extremely well educated and had a high paying career in the finance sector Babel_17 Jan 2016 #75

OFFS... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #81

completely agree AND.... SandersDem Jan 2016 #106

Grown women in their thirties with all the advantages Chelsea has had do not need to be defended sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #86

I agree that is the best thing to do davidpdx Jan 2016 #137

She is not a child. 840high Jan 2016 #122

The apple does not fall far from the tree. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #7

Nope. She is in the family business now FlatBaroque Jan 2016 #46

+1 and twitter has been on fire since she dae Jan 2016 #102

KICK & R. Segami Jan 2016 #8

The problem Bernie has here firebrand80 Jan 2016 #9

that's fair--and I look forward to his plan being released n/t zazen Jan 2016 #13

Single Payer isn't defined yet? SHRED Jan 2016 #17

There are different ways to accomplish that goal firebrand80 Jan 2016 #28

No one forced Hillary to fill in the 'blank' with a lie SHRED Jan 2016 #33

quite possible nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #36

Very true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #37

GOP Governors wouldn't deny healthcare to their people firebrand80 Jan 2016 #44

Of Course They Would. SDJay Jan 2016 #56

White Supremacy is an ideology nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #70

LOL ... History would suggest otherwise. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #60

Did you forget the sarcasm thingie? nt SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #109

So--explain how the GOP has stopped people over 65 from getting Medicare eridani Jan 2016 #131

The Third Way plan has failed. Let's go with the alternative: single payer. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #66

At this point it is better to set a goal, because there are many possible paths Armstead Jan 2016 #76

Politically, specifics might be overrated firebrand80 Jan 2016 #88

True. Frankly as a Sanders supporter.... Armstead Jan 2016 #89

So... which is it? Scootaloo Jan 2016 #114

What I mean is firebrand80 Jan 2016 #116

Expanding Medicare to cover EVERYBODY has not been defined yet? bvar22 Jan 2016 #104

Yes he does--his own senate bill eridani Jan 2016 #130

Has he said that's his plan? nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #135

Of course. An actual bill is pretty detailed. Better to stick to the basic underlying value-- eridani Jan 2016 #140

Axelrod is an Obama person...so is Biden. Not so sure Obama supports Hillary. Punkingal Jan 2016 #10

I'm not sure how they feel about Bernie DemocraticWing Jan 2016 #100

Mostly agree truebluegreen Jan 2016 #115

There goes HRC chance to be the first safeinOhio Jan 2016 #11

Good Answer by Hillary gordyfl Jan 2016 #16

If she hits Powerball - I'll 840high Jan 2016 #123

Nooooooo Chelsea!! You don't have to become part of the Clinton machine... raindaddy Jan 2016 #19

Chelsea is more beholden to the finance sector than Hillary is. hollowdweller Jan 2016 #20

After watching her performance it's clear she's still a sh*tty liar.. raindaddy Jan 2016 #25

Yep, they got Chelsea while she was a baby... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #31

Isn't her husband a Goldman-Sachs exec.? callous taoboy Jan 2016 #58

Making 2 million a year. Their 840high Jan 2016 #124

Yes, but, any person with half a brain... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #30

I'm sure the strategy was to roll out the daughter to lie about Sander's health care proposal .... raindaddy Jan 2016 #41

So, now they busted poor Chelsea's reputation too! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #45

Yep....She was obviously uncomfortable.... raindaddy Jan 2016 #50

I find it really sad that camp Clinton put her out to lie like that. bunnies Jan 2016 #39

put her out to lie like that. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #61

She had a choice in the matter... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #82

I agree that it was her own decision. bunnies Jan 2016 #84

What is the definition of a lie? bluestateguy Jan 2016 #42

A statement or claim that is factually false cali Jan 2016 #43

Close, but a bit more complex than that... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #54

Chelsea damn well knows... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #83

Agreed. Helen Borg Jan 2016 #87

In this context, it is deliberatly trying to create the opposite imnpression from the truth Armstead Jan 2016 #79

Apparently the hedge apple doesn't fall far from the hedge. dogman Jan 2016 #48

All for the prize. Sienna86 Jan 2016 #51

Clearly Bernie is an awful person for forcing Chelsea to lie like this Fumesucker Jan 2016 #52

So true. How dare that peon? cali Jan 2016 #53

Such cruelty. Cornering the Clintons like that! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #55

Yet ANOTHER Example SDJay Jan 2016 #59

Just like her mother and daddy. No surprise here. She knows how to lie and defame people's Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #64

They had No, Nada intentions of trying to be "honest "... S. Laysi Jan 2016 #67

I really thought Hillary was smarter than this. What a fiasco! Duval Jan 2016 #68

I don't think it's stupid. I think it's a calculated gamble cali Jan 2016 #69

Their calculator appears to be broken Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #128

It was bullshit like this -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2016 #71

Same thing happened to me. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #110

You are talking about this gem: davidpdx Jan 2016 #136

The referees look to be forming a consensus ruling Babel_17 Jan 2016 #73

A picture says a 1000 words .. Jarqui Jan 2016 #85

Good find! SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #111

Indeed but to be clear Jarqui Jan 2016 #113

LOL!!! Peace Patriot Jan 2016 #129

This is a sincere question and I hope this isn't lazy Z_California Jan 2016 #93

An Adult Speaks Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #94

So much fail with the Clinton campaign azmom Jan 2016 #95

Sorry I am having a hard time getting past David Axelrod Kalidurga Jan 2016 #103

Honest Clinton An Oxymoron billhicks76 Jan 2016 #107

Chelsea appeared lame and unprepared Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #112

So this links goes to abc news with Hillary and her Clinton connection George INdemo Jan 2016 #117

Further proof that... Geronimoe Jan 2016 #119

"Since when do Americans attack one another on Universal Healthcare? I thought we were trying to secondwind Jan 2016 #134

Why does anyone with half a brain listen to an oligarchy princess? Ivan Kaputski Jan 2016 #139

K & R LWolf Jan 2016 #143