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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Here it is: Bernie's Single Payer Healthcare Plan [View all]Gman
(24,780 posts)48. Nope. No it's not
That's a very simple view. Do you not know about the Kochs, big pharma and the health care lobby? The US Chamber will not support it. Wall Street won't support if. Banks won't support it.
So just how are employees, who's rights and voices have been whittled to nothing, and a few businesses beat that?
It's pie in the sky fantasy. Good at getting gullible people to vote for him. But he's promising the impossible.
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Released just in time for somebody in Hillary's camp to misinterpret something
thereismore
Jan 2016
#4
When they say the 6.2% payroll tax is passed on to employees what does that mean?
Agschmid
Jan 2016
#5
no... employers are NOT paying 6.2% of employee salaries into HCI on avg. They've payed lower
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#60
Wait, how is the 6.2 + 2.2 increase in payroll tax an employer "savings" !?!?! The 6.2 increase
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#13
We have unions cause employers are assholes and have no shame at being so and 6.2 + 2.2 is 8.4...
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#17
8.4% of 50000 is 4200 + 466 is 4666 which around 300 bucks from what the Sanders plan says the
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#25
How about you.... progress.... the conversation and be specific... if there's no answer there's no..
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#31
There's no mention of the deduction for the FED tax payed into SP in Sanders plan for 50 a year
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#43
His plan doesn't include a full spread sheet. However, I would assume he factors that in when comput
JonLeibowitz
Jan 2016
#45
Unnnn, its pretty simple... the 6.2% in employer fees seem to stand out...we know they're aren't...
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#49
With no cost to employees?!??! Please link and quote that one?! The employers who have been paying
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#52
Not for those making 50,000 a year... that's the avg which includes stupid plans for folk makin 200k
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#64
+1, I just made this point on the other thread that 2 hrs before the debate doesn't give folk real
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#65
Not in that salary range its not, AVG includes salaries for millionaires the means is 50,000 ...
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#83
That doesn't include the 466 they added in the end on their own cost... I'm including that...
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#84
nnnnnoooooooo, the histroically gerrymandered GOP congress doesn't have to listen to anyone
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#58
Don't forget bully pullpit and fight... gottah have those words in there or they'll call him sellout
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#55
This is an incredible plan! I'm sure it'll need tweaks along the way, but THIS IS WHAT WE NEED!
in_cog_ni_to
Jan 2016
#38
So that's TWO tax increases on the middle class. So much for being the candidate "for the people"!
George II
Jan 2016
#62
You found out that about his plan in an hour? His tax is a PAYROLL tax - RICH PEOPLE aren't on...
George II
Jan 2016
#72
It's a 2.2% payroll increase and completely removes insurance premiums and deductibles.
Kentonio
Jan 2016
#73
No, it's 6+ percent. And how much does someone like Donald Trump pay in "payroll taxes"?
George II
Jan 2016
#79
+1, I don't believe no one is looking at the details.. that 6.2% increase is going to be passed to
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#70
It's a tax increase of the lower and middle class. How much is he going to tax the rich? ZERO!
George II
Jan 2016
#85