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gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
59. What happens to employees of insurance co's
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jan 2016

Who lose their jobs. I'm still not understanding the plan. Does this eliminate insurance co's? Is health insurance administered by the fed government under expanded Medicare. Is there a part B and who pays the 20% not covered by mcare?
When we go to single payer, it is not just going to be about how it's paid for. It will change the health insurance industry dramatically, not saying its a bad thing but people are going to lose their jobs.

Beautiful. Kentonio Jan 2016 #1
Awesome!!!!! Less than one fucking insurance premium!! Autumn Jan 2016 #28
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #2
Awesome!!! darkangel218 Jan 2016 #3
Released just in time for somebody in Hillary's camp to misinterpret something thereismore Jan 2016 #4
They're already "misinterpreting" this in other threads. arcane1 Jan 2016 #35
When they say the 6.2% payroll tax is passed on to employees what does that mean? Agschmid Jan 2016 #5
If I had to guess... HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #6
Thanks. Agschmid Jan 2016 #8
As for salaries... HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #10
no... employers are NOT paying 6.2% of employee salaries into HCI on avg. They've payed lower uponit7771 Jan 2016 #60
No kidding gwheezie Jan 2016 #67
16k per worker avg employer cost. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #78
Your employer multiplies your salary by .062 and pays that much in tax Recursion Jan 2016 #91
That employers will pay workers 6.2% less in cash. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #93
Where do I sign up? FlatBaroque Jan 2016 #7
what might the tax rate be for those who are middle class? grasswire Jan 2016 #9
It's in the plan. Read it. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #11
from the link questionseverything Jan 2016 #12
Wait, how is the 6.2 + 2.2 increase in payroll tax an employer "savings" !?!?! The 6.2 increase uponit7771 Jan 2016 #13
You're assuming employers are assholes. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #14
We have unions cause employers are assholes and have no shame at being so and 6.2 + 2.2 is 8.4... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #17
You added the 8.4 to the $400...nevermind HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #21
8.4% of 50000 is 4200 + 466 is 4666 which around 300 bucks from what the Sanders plan says the uponit7771 Jan 2016 #25
Again, your math is terrible. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #26
How about you.... progress.... the conversation and be specific... if there's no answer there's no.. uponit7771 Jan 2016 #31
You're forgetting tax deductions. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #41
There's no mention of the deduction for the FED tax payed into SP in Sanders plan for 50 a year uponit7771 Jan 2016 #43
His plan doesn't include a full spread sheet. However, I would assume he factors that in when comput JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #45
Unnnn, its pretty simple... the 6.2% in employer fees seem to stand out...we know they're aren't... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #49
.... Loudestlib Jan 2016 #40
With no cost to employees?!??! Please link and quote that one?! The employers who have been paying uponit7771 Jan 2016 #52
A quick Google search reveals... pinstikfartherin Jan 2016 #61
Not for those making 50,000 a year... that's the avg which includes stupid plans for folk makin 200k uponit7771 Jan 2016 #64
Payroll taxes are REGRESSIVE taxes. Period. It doesn't make sense. George II Jan 2016 #63
+1, I just made this point on the other thread that 2 hrs before the debate doesn't give folk real uponit7771 Jan 2016 #65
For most workers 6.2% is a reduction in health care costs. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #80
Not in that salary range its not, AVG includes salaries for millionaires the means is 50,000 ... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #83
Pay close attention now Ok INdemo Jan 2016 #81
That doesn't include the 466 they added in the end on their own cost... I'm including that... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #84
What are you talking about the 466 INdemo Jan 2016 #88
There is no passing off anything to the employees INdemo Jan 2016 #89
Woo!!!! jkbRN Jan 2016 #15
Single payer would lower property taxes as well. redwitch Jan 2016 #16
There's so many wins with this type of plan. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #18
Here Comes The Bouncing Ball! ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #19
One more BIG reason hifiguy Jan 2016 #20
No doubt. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #22
Sounds good to me. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #23
It's showtime folks SmittynMo Jan 2016 #24
I like it. I'm surprised that I like it actually. Joe the Revelator Jan 2016 #27
So he gets this fantasy through a GOP congress...how? Gman Jan 2016 #29
Not taking into account the likelihood of this being passed... HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #33
Read my post. Gman Jan 2016 #44
Ah, sorry I missed that part. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #47
When the people AND the employers like something Kentonio Jan 2016 #34
Nope. No it's not Gman Jan 2016 #48
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #56
nnnnnoooooooo, the histroically gerrymandered GOP congress doesn't have to listen to anyone uponit7771 Jan 2016 #58
How does she get her plans through a GOP Congress? neverforget Jan 2016 #36
Here's how bluestateguy Jan 2016 #51
Don't forget bully pullpit and fight... gottah have those words in there or they'll call him sellout uponit7771 Jan 2016 #55
Revolution Dammit!! /sarcasm uponit7771 Jan 2016 #54
That's the only practical solution Gman Jan 2016 #90
Well Bernie will have enough coattail wins in the Senate to take back the INdemo Jan 2016 #86
First, Gman Jan 2016 #99
I disagree with you. Hillary Clinton will get those Democrats that will INdemo Jan 2016 #103
Plans like this is how you change that GOP congress. jeff47 Jan 2016 #94
The DLC hadn't been around for many years Gman Jan 2016 #100
They basically renamed themselves several times. jeff47 Jan 2016 #101
K&R! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #30
Holy shit! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #32
This is wonderful! Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #39
Well plus the 6.2 percent in payroll yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #102
I donl't understand this one Armstead Jan 2016 #37
I think it's just to show how the current rates would rise Kentonio Jan 2016 #46
This is an incredible plan! I'm sure it'll need tweaks along the way, but THIS IS WHAT WE NEED! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #38
Magnificent. GO, BERNIE, GO! K&R (N/T) Old Crow Jan 2016 #42
Kick, kick, kick... mountain grammy Jan 2016 #50
Hell. Yes. AzDar Jan 2016 #53
So what happens to my Retired Military Tricare? itsrobert Jan 2016 #57
What happens to employees of insurance co's gwheezie Jan 2016 #59
Well... "Medicare for All" would be hiring! Beartracks Jan 2016 #75
I never get straight answers to that question bluestateguy Jan 2016 #92
Unfortunately, they will have to become productive members of society. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #95
The IT guy? gwheezie Jan 2016 #104
Again, private insurance is not "productive" jeff47 Jan 2016 #106
So that's TWO tax increases on the middle class. So much for being the candidate "for the people"! George II Jan 2016 #62
OMG!!! Taxes?!? Whatever will we do?!? Kentonio Jan 2016 #66
You found out that about his plan in an hour? His tax is a PAYROLL tax - RICH PEOPLE aren't on... George II Jan 2016 #72
It's a 2.2% payroll increase and completely removes insurance premiums and deductibles. Kentonio Jan 2016 #73
No, it's 6+ percent. And how much does someone like Donald Trump pay in "payroll taxes"? George II Jan 2016 #79
+1, I don't believe no one is looking at the details.. that 6.2% increase is going to be passed to uponit7771 Jan 2016 #70
I'm being taxed by my premiums right now! Beartracks Jan 2016 #71
I'm laughing at your avatar. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #77
Come on, George. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #82
It's a tax increase of the lower and middle class. How much is he going to tax the rich? ZERO! George II Jan 2016 #85
Not true at all, George. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #87
Reading. Try it. jeff47 Jan 2016 #97
I pay $10k/year in health insurance premiums + high deductible. jeff47 Jan 2016 #96
Kudos for releasing the plan. Have to wait for some other experts to evaluate it. It's easy to Hoyt Jan 2016 #68
But, but, but.... paleotn Jan 2016 #69
K&R 99Forever Jan 2016 #74
K & R LWolf Jan 2016 #76
Bernie's top income tax rate is LOWER than the mid-1930s thru 1970s senz Jan 2016 #98
Saving for the personal discussions Duppers Jan 2016 #105
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