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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Here it is: Bernie's Single Payer Healthcare Plan [View all]HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)87. Not true at all, George.
Read his plan. Families making less than 28,000 per year pay nothing. Middle class families pay a modest payroll tax that ends up saving them thousands of dollars on health insurance. The upper class pays a progressive income tax to cover the rest.
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Released just in time for somebody in Hillary's camp to misinterpret something
thereismore
Jan 2016
#4
When they say the 6.2% payroll tax is passed on to employees what does that mean?
Agschmid
Jan 2016
#5
no... employers are NOT paying 6.2% of employee salaries into HCI on avg. They've payed lower
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#60
Wait, how is the 6.2 + 2.2 increase in payroll tax an employer "savings" !?!?! The 6.2 increase
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#13
We have unions cause employers are assholes and have no shame at being so and 6.2 + 2.2 is 8.4...
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#17
8.4% of 50000 is 4200 + 466 is 4666 which around 300 bucks from what the Sanders plan says the
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#25
How about you.... progress.... the conversation and be specific... if there's no answer there's no..
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#31
There's no mention of the deduction for the FED tax payed into SP in Sanders plan for 50 a year
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#43
His plan doesn't include a full spread sheet. However, I would assume he factors that in when comput
JonLeibowitz
Jan 2016
#45
Unnnn, its pretty simple... the 6.2% in employer fees seem to stand out...we know they're aren't...
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#49
With no cost to employees?!??! Please link and quote that one?! The employers who have been paying
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#52
Not for those making 50,000 a year... that's the avg which includes stupid plans for folk makin 200k
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#64
+1, I just made this point on the other thread that 2 hrs before the debate doesn't give folk real
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#65
Not in that salary range its not, AVG includes salaries for millionaires the means is 50,000 ...
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#83
That doesn't include the 466 they added in the end on their own cost... I'm including that...
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#84
nnnnnoooooooo, the histroically gerrymandered GOP congress doesn't have to listen to anyone
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#58
Don't forget bully pullpit and fight... gottah have those words in there or they'll call him sellout
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#55
This is an incredible plan! I'm sure it'll need tweaks along the way, but THIS IS WHAT WE NEED!
in_cog_ni_to
Jan 2016
#38
So that's TWO tax increases on the middle class. So much for being the candidate "for the people"!
George II
Jan 2016
#62
You found out that about his plan in an hour? His tax is a PAYROLL tax - RICH PEOPLE aren't on...
George II
Jan 2016
#72
It's a 2.2% payroll increase and completely removes insurance premiums and deductibles.
Kentonio
Jan 2016
#73
No, it's 6+ percent. And how much does someone like Donald Trump pay in "payroll taxes"?
George II
Jan 2016
#79
+1, I don't believe no one is looking at the details.. that 6.2% increase is going to be passed to
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#70
It's a tax increase of the lower and middle class. How much is he going to tax the rich? ZERO!
George II
Jan 2016
#85