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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: The best leaders inspire sacrifice. The guy running for class president promises free pizza. [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)67. Again, you're not listening to what the people who actually understand this, are saying.
Any backdoor by definition puts vulnerabilities in encryption. And there are no "other avenues". A door that isn't the front door, is a backdoor. It doesn't matter who holds the keys.
Also, love him or hate him, the revelations from Ed Snowden have definitively shown that government spying is not some small-time, well contained, only-a-few-people-have very tightly controlled access affair. It is an industrial-size messy bring-in-thousands-of-contractors-deal with all sorts of opportunities for sloppiness.
And lastly, again, I feel it is worth reiterating that every damn time we're sold a bill of goods about "vital special tools to fight terror only to be used in the most extraordinary of circumstances", the authorities turn around and then use it for the same old pedestrian purposes, like arresting people for pot smoking.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/10/patriot-act-warrants-used-more-drugs-terrorism
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151220/08101633141/hillary-clinton-wants-manhattan-project-encryption-not-back-door-that-makes-no-sense.shtml
No, she clearly does not understand what Apple and others are saying about that. Just a week or so ago, she insisted that Apple's complaint about it was that it might lead to the government invading users' privacy, but that's only a part of the concern. The real concern is that backdooring encryption means that everyone is more exposed to everyone, including malicious hackers. You create a backdoor and you open up the ability for malicious hackers from everywhere else to get in.
Also, love him or hate him, the revelations from Ed Snowden have definitively shown that government spying is not some small-time, well contained, only-a-few-people-have very tightly controlled access affair. It is an industrial-size messy bring-in-thousands-of-contractors-deal with all sorts of opportunities for sloppiness.
And lastly, again, I feel it is worth reiterating that every damn time we're sold a bill of goods about "vital special tools to fight terror only to be used in the most extraordinary of circumstances", the authorities turn around and then use it for the same old pedestrian purposes, like arresting people for pot smoking.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/10/patriot-act-warrants-used-more-drugs-terrorism
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The best leaders inspire sacrifice. The guy running for class president promises free pizza. [View all]
hill2016
Jan 2016
OP
Wait a sec, weren't you just whining that your taxes might go up a little bit?
Electric Monk
Jan 2016
#2
Here is the math in basic terms. For profit health insurance, for profit hospitals and
randys1
Jan 2016
#45
Exactly, we need to sacrifice our and our children's dreams in order that Hillary fulfill her dream
Fumesucker
Jan 2016
#5
And who is going to pay for Hillary's "manhattan project" to make sure you cant encrypt your iphone?
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#8
To which Tim Cook's response is the most salient reason why the tech sector won't comply with this.
VulgarPoet
Jan 2016
#39
Right. First off, "manhattan projects" are by definition huge and expensive. Two, "collaboration"
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#25
Promising the FBI that they'll be able to easily search icloud for Snoop Dogg's pictures of weed
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#69
Again, you're not listening to what the people who actually understand this, are saying.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#67
I remember the last collaboration with the Clintons: Clipper Chips and the key escrow skipjack algo
Paulie
Jan 2016
#92
The best leaders inspire us to work together to achieve big goals that benefit everyone. n/t
winter is coming
Jan 2016
#10
Hillary is inspiring us to sacrifice our own and our children's dreams for her dream
Fumesucker
Jan 2016
#64
The Average American has been sacrificing for 30 years! You just want to roll over and play dead! nt
TheBlackAdder
Jan 2016
#36
I never realized that there are a shit load of Neville Chamberlains in the Democratic Party!
TheBlackAdder
Jan 2016
#50
I feel sorry for you. That's why they call it "Feel the Bern". You totally miss the point.
tecelote
Jan 2016
#59
Working class people have sacrificed enough. Time for the super-rich to pay their fair share.
Cheese Sandwich
Jan 2016
#63
Doesn't look like many in this thread are prepared to make any sacrifice by paying more taxes
taught_me_patience
Jan 2016
#72
Ha that is what I said! he is making believe he is a Hillary supporter to make them look bad.
m-lekktor
Jan 2016
#84
Oh dear. You still clinging to the republican smear that Dems all want "Free Suff"?
Autumn
Jan 2016
#75
when the population receives value for its taxes, that is actually not "free stuff"
Matariki
Jan 2016
#87