2016 Postmortem

sadoldgirl

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8. Because there is a huge difference

Reply to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 08:58 PM

Jan 2016

between Democrats and "New Democrats.

That "new Democrat" definition came from
Bill Clinton.

Perhaps the old kind of Democrats showed more
sense for helping most people.

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Why do Bernie/his supporters get to decide what a Democrat stands for? [View all] hill2016 Jan 2016 OP

Because the repubs have already claimed most of NoHope Hillary's policies. last1standing Jan 2016 #1

CrazyPants Sander's policies are very different from NoHope Hillary's. n/t cheapdate Jan 2016 #19

Another Sanders supporter heard from! merrily Jan 2016 #56

Yep. I respect him for his ideas cheapdate Jan 2016 #64

IIRC, you said he was your choice to win this primary. merrily Jan 2016 #66

You are correct. He's been my choice from the beginning. cheapdate Jan 2016 #68

Isn't that what the Sanders campaign is really about persuadable Jan 2016 #36

Because we have better saltpoint Jan 2016 #2

RIGHT ON, DUDE !!! pangaia Jan 2016 #101

The no true Scotsman fallacy mcar Jan 2016 #3

From both Hillary supporters and Bernie supporters. merrily Jan 2016 #58

Links to HRC supporters stating that mcar Jan 2016 #63

Who said the No True Scotsman fallacy applies only to supporters? There have been many threads and merrily Jan 2016 #70

Your examples are not the fallacy I was referencing mcar Jan 2016 #75

You mentioned "not real ("true") Democrats." My links were indeed relevant to that. merrily Jan 2016 #105

More taxes means RobertEarl Jan 2016 #4

Can everyone really have better health care under single payer? hill2016 Jan 2016 #7

You pay more for a cadillac RobertEarl Jan 2016 #14

not really hill2016 Jan 2016 #22

Lots of rich patients? RobertEarl Jan 2016 #31

I'm just saying hill2016 Jan 2016 #38

And you are on their side? RobertEarl Jan 2016 #46

It's going to take some time, but it's a fact that Ron Green Jan 2016 #50

You're not being honest, and you keep playing this game in thread after thread. arcane1 Jan 2016 #76

Should we end public schools because ... GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #89

Do some research Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #16

The US healthcare system is ranked 37th in the world. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #20

Supplementary insurance will no doubt continue to exist (at a price), under Medicare for All, as it merrily Jan 2016 #59

Because they need to justify their faith in the Bern. nt Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #5

they get to decide what THEY stand for restorefreedom Jan 2016 #6

then why are so many people calling hill2016 Jan 2016 #10

Mainstream democratic platform is to not raise any taxes on uber-upper-upper Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #25

yes if you listen to Obama and Clinton hill2016 Jan 2016 #39

Ok if you are satisfied with that. Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #54

the mainstream party platform restorefreedom Jan 2016 #41

So, when does supporting H-1B quotas make her representing "mainstream Democratic Party platform"? cascadiance Jan 2016 #49

Because there is a huge difference sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #8

His supporters have hijacked social media Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #9

Hillary supporters don't know how to use social media? Matariki Jan 2016 #15

We've seen how BS supporters "use" social media ... NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #44

How is it possible to "hijack" social media? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #35

They don't. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #11

+ a million Number23 Jan 2016 #83

because they act like 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #12

We do?!? Matariki Jan 2016 #13

+ 1000 MissDeeds Jan 2016 #18

BECAUSE REVOLUTION!!!!! *** *** except for reparations uponit7771 Jan 2016 #17

+1,000,000 Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #24

You want reparations? Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #26

Yes of course, national baseline funding for 1 - 12 free room and board for college uponit7771 Jan 2016 #28

How do you decide who gets reparations? Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #47

Those directly effected by Jim Crow, War on drugs, native American genocide and stupid uponit7771 Jan 2016 #53

So you decide what "revolution" means. Got it. Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #80

Wait, isn't that EXACTLY what Sanders is doing?! Defining what revolution for everyone uponit7771 Jan 2016 #84

He's the candidate. All his proposals have a funding mechanism. Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #93

Reparations does have a funding mechanism, that's false.. and like I've said about Sanders he uponit7771 Jan 2016 #96

Why do you support a candidate who does not agree with your demands? Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #97

She's not the revolution candidate, why are we going over this again? uponit7771 Jan 2016 #98

You listed a bunch of things you wanted, yet your candidate does not support any of it. Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #99

Then why isn't Hillary supporting them? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #55

She's not the revolution candidate Sanders is, she's not sticking herself with that title uponit7771 Jan 2016 #57

Hill2016, I am sorry but most of what we've seen of your 7wo7rees Jan 2016 #21

Who is "we?" Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #29

Both of us. Mr and Ms 7wo7rees, mkay? nt 7wo7rees Jan 2016 #33

Hookay. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #42

Yep Kalidurga Jan 2016 #104

"no new taxes" is something democrats stand for? Like a foundational principle? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #23

Because we are Democrats and we vote. Get used to it. morningfog Jan 2016 #27

but you don't get to call other the Democratic frontrunner hill2016 Jan 2016 #30

Sure we do. Especially when they attack from the right. morningfog Jan 2016 #34

what if the majority of party voters hill2016 Jan 2016 #40

If the platform ends up conservative of course I will call it out. morningfog Jan 2016 #43

You forget we're not supposed to go against who the establishment picks out for us, remember? VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #90

Deciding who is a real Dem? You mean, like this? merrily Jan 2016 #32

Are you afraid you're going to lose your nanny, housekeeper and private school? neverforget Jan 2016 #37

"His supporters" include Proud Public Servant Jan 2016 #45

And Obama broke his promise in order to fund the ACA. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2016 #48

Because Some Of Us Have Been Democrats For Decades... And Haven't Forgotten What A Real One Is... WillyT Jan 2016 #51

I remember Lyndon Johnson and the "Great Society." The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #62

Yep... 'This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things...' WillyT Jan 2016 #67

LBJ was within months of a peace treaty in Vietnam catnhatnh Jan 2016 #73

Yeah, there was that. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #74

THIS!! Spot on WillyT! jillan Jan 2016 #102

Except $250,000 per year sure doesn't seem like "middle class." Efilroft Sul Jan 2016 #52

$250,000 is pretty high. But there are a lot of good Democrats making that. Hoyt Jan 2016 #60

If they were good Democrats, they wouldn't complain like Republicans. Efilroft Sul Jan 2016 #61

I agree, sounds a bit greedy. Hoyt Jan 2016 #65

Change 'mainstream' to 'establishment'...there you go...! TheProgressive Jan 2016 #69

They don't...nt SidDithers Jan 2016 #71

Because they are so frightfully ideologically pure compared to the rest of us. DavidDvorkin Jan 2016 #72

You'll find out why over the next 3 months why we get to decide!!! ;) Armymedic88 Jan 2016 #77

Who says Hillary stands for Democratic policies FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #78

You don't get to decide what the party stands for. RichVRichV Jan 2016 #79

35 years of frustration. HassleCat Jan 2016 #81

Same way RW extremists like to dictate what a "patriot' is R B Garr Jan 2016 #82

Thank you! That was the phrase I was going to use ... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #88

If your key reason for voting Democrat is keeping taxes low for $250k earners Kentonio Jan 2016 #85

You would be wrong. On a great many things for that matter. Fearless Jan 2016 #86

They don't leftynyc Jan 2016 #87

I'm a progressive. I'm a democrat. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #91

What a puzzling post. Vinca Jan 2016 #92

I get to decide what I stand for as a democrat, therefore whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #94

Seriously? democrank Jan 2016 #95

Are you saying blue dogs aka DINOs should be the ones to decide what a Democrat stands for? Autumn Jan 2016 #100

Strange in this large thread the real answer got only a passing, dismissive "answer" whatthehey Jan 2016 #103

Look in the mirror when you ask that question. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #106