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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Do you buy into the single payer fantasy of Sanders? [View all]Gothmog
(145,046 posts)49. The Bernie Sanders Health Plan Is Too Good To Be True, Analyst Says
These savings are simply not true http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sanders-health-plan-cost_us_56a8ff99e4b0f6b7d5447ee8?section=politics
According to analysis from Emory University professor Kenneth Thorpe, a former Clinton administration advisor who has also done paid work for health industry clients, Sanders has wildly underestimated the cost of providing such comprehensive benefits to all Americans. Either his plan would blow a giant hole in the deficit, Thorpe predicts, or the new payroll and income taxes to finance the proposal would be more than twice as high as the Sanders campaign has projected.
Either way, Thorpe says, the Sanders plan would create both winners and losers, as any health reform proposal would. The winners would include workers for whom the new taxes would still be less than what they pay now, in premiums and out-of-pocket costs combined. The losers would include some Medicaid recipients with jobs, because their employers would pass along the expense of new payroll taxes as lower wages.
Either way, Thorpe says, the Sanders plan would create both winners and losers, as any health reform proposal would. The winners would include workers for whom the new taxes would still be less than what they pay now, in premiums and out-of-pocket costs combined. The losers would include some Medicaid recipients with jobs, because their employers would pass along the expense of new payroll taxes as lower wages.
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I lived in Europe and liked the way single payer worked there. It is especially good for
JDPriestly
Jan 2016
#2
He never promised anything. Just talking bout things valuable to shoot for. With our help.
highprincipleswork
Jan 2016
#4
I do and I have wondered for years why the Democratic keep rolling over on the
Todays_Illusion
Jan 2016
#5
I buy into that it is probably the best way long-term, but he's not being honest about the cost or
Hoyt
Jan 2016
#8
Yep. You never hear the corporatists or their cheerleaders spreading anti-war messages with
GoneFishin
Jan 2016
#29
who is putting forth "Bernie Sanders thinks if he's elected President, we will have single payer." ?
corkhead
Jan 2016
#21
It matters what the General Election voter believes. Bernie's put his plan out there,
pnwmom
Jan 2016
#23
Calm down. I don't think I've ever called anyone on this site a mental defective.
Vinca
Jan 2016
#89
when can we start calling buying into > $1 trillion for wars a "fantasy" ?? - n/t
Locrian
Jan 2016
#31
Yes, I do think that adopting a single payer system would be the best thing for this country.
bklyncowgirl
Jan 2016
#38
The Sanders plan depends on hypothetical costs savings that Prof. Krugman thinks are false
Gothmog
Jan 2016
#47
Bernie is out to bring in a revolution from the White House to the House of Reps and Senate.
Zen Democrat
Jan 2016
#52
I love the way Senator Sanders reaches for the entire pie, Obama should have done that too.
Sunlei
Jan 2016
#55
Sanders main platform is defeating special interrest monies that BLOCK to their
Jefferson23
Jan 2016
#57
Bernie will fight for it, but an "incrementalist" will cave to the Insurance Ind and Big Pharma
amborin
Jan 2016
#60
It's so nice to read an equally weighted OP, one that does not prejudge or load the question. nt
TheBlackAdder
Jan 2016
#62
The ACA was sold as a stepping stone, the fear that Benrie will undo Obamas "greatest"
Autumn
Jan 2016
#63
Hopefully, we'll find out with Bernie. With Hillary we already know we won't.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2016
#68