2016 Postmortem

daybranch

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67. If you recognize that the oligarchy runs our foreign policy as most of Bernie's

Sun Jan 31, 2016, 08:53 AM

Jan 2016

supporters do, you immediately recognize that the best solution to matters of Foreign policy is to remove the influence of the oligarchy which puts our young soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines i harm's way to protect and enlarge the wealth of the oligarchy. The rich are the problem afflicting the world with their greed. Wake up man or woman as the case may be, it is all connected . Get rid of the cognitive dissonance that allows you to support the neocon positions of the oligarchy and its third way minions.
Go Bernie. He gets it on every level.

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Bernie's foreign policy deficit [View all] Skidmore Jan 2016 OP

This is why I trust Bernie over Hillary: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #1

There is more to the world Skidmore Jan 2016 #2

Not to the people who died. What did she say about them again, we gave them a "gift"? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #3

And your qualifications to make such Skidmore Jan 2016 #6

I never claimed to be more of a foreign policy expert than one of the Democratic candidates. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #8

I don't consider Skidmore Jan 2016 #9

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #10

No, I was informed that you had the rooms booked in advance. Skidmore Jan 2016 #11

Again I never claimed I was smarter than one of our candidates, that was you. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #12

No, I claimed I had real life experience Skidmore Jan 2016 #13

You: "Get back to me when he has learned the difference between Shi'a and Sunni." beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #17

You know how to Skidmore Jan 2016 #18

If you didn't write the op-ed in the op then you know how to cut and paste too. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #31

Bernie sounded exactly like Dick Cheney; so what? Sancho Jan 2016 #20

"so what?" Are you admitting you supported the Iraq war, that you believed Bush? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #23

No, I'm saying that Bush was to blame... Sancho Jan 2016 #28

So if they could all predict what would happen why did Hillary support the war? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #29

You are the one who wants to look at history... Sancho Jan 2016 #102

Please list those votes and also everything that was included in the bills. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #105

There are so many...but here's a well-known example of Bernie supporting the MIC... Sancho Jan 2016 #113

So you can't name them? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #118

Sure...do you want all Sanders votes on MIC? Sancho Jan 2016 #130

Reread my post, name every vote, what else was included and why you disagree. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #132

You're asking for something that I've answered (in one example)... Sancho Jan 2016 #135

Repeating your talking point over and over again doesn't make it true. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #136

saaaaaanort! nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #49

Changed my mind about being in this discussion rpannier Jan 2016 #68

That's too bad Skidmore Jan 2016 #95

That was a vile thing to say and it displays utterly clulessness about the nature of the invasion. Vattel Jan 2016 #14

It proves she learned nothing from her mistake. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #21

Yes, it is sad that so many don't seem to realize how hawkish she is. Vattel Jan 2016 #34

They can't get their memes straight, one day he's a hawk the next he's a "peacenik". beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #35

Bernie has been against every war since he applied as a CO in the days of Vietnam... Sancho Jan 2016 #15

He voted to go after Bin Laden in Afghanistan so your premise is false. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #19

Again, the premise is not false.... Sancho Jan 2016 #24

You: "Bernie has been against every war since he applied as a CO in the days of Vietnam" beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #27

And Libya was a business opportunity (but most of us knew that from the start). polly7 Jan 2016 #97

She meant 'freedom' in the Sartrean sense, where liberation KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #101

I wasn't aware that Clinton ever lived in a war zone or in the Middle East. w4rma Jan 2016 #5

You need to read for comprehension. Skidmore Jan 2016 #7

Oh, I completely comprehend your attitude towards the world, Skidmore. (nt) w4rma Jan 2016 #32

I think not. Skidmore Jan 2016 #96

You said 'there is more to the world than this one vote'... elias49 Jan 2016 #25

1 million dead Iraqis (you know, women and children) would beg to disagree - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #99

Your old chestnut is boring. You act as though she single -handedly riversedge Jan 2016 #37

Hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and you refer to it as an "old chestnut"? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #38

Bernie's "foreign policy deficit": He had no unsecure email server, John Poet Jan 2016 #4

He has far more experience than Obama had and cali Jan 2016 #16

Yep, mistake after mistake after mistake. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #22

Read what the article says about his BainsBane Jan 2016 #119

Her experience EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #26

That would explain her hawkishness wouldn't it? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #45

Indeed EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #51

It's not an ideal choice... thesquanderer Jan 2016 #134

Absolutely. EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #138

Bernie Sanders, 2nd Democratic debate, Nov. 14, 2016: ucrdem Jan 2016 #30

My reaction as well.nt Skidmore Jan 2016 #33

I remember that--it was jarrring how Sanders just did a 180 shift and talked economics on riversedge Jan 2016 #36

The contrast with Hillary's answer is striking, ucrdem Jan 2016 #39

Perhaps this helps to explain why his foreign policy speech was cancelled. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #43

Hillary should know more about the problem. She caused it. nt mhatrw Jan 2016 #63

It could fit on a fortune cookie. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #40

Like this: FUCK WAR! nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #41

Yep. ucrdem Jan 2016 #42

Yep.. one sentence and then on to economics! DCBob Jan 2016 #81

The opening up of Iraq to terrorism began ISIS, just as doing the same in Libya did for now so many polly7 Jan 2016 #106

Thin? Compared to Obama, George W. Buh, Bill Clinton, Reagan, or Carter when they 1st took office? Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #44

Compared to Hillary's, it's thin. Did you happen to catch the second debate? ucrdem Jan 2016 #47

I did, yes Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #58

Candidate Obama had no problem discussing foreign policy in great detail during the 2008 campaign. DCBob Jan 2016 #48

People never serm to remember that the President Skidmore Jan 2016 #56

Bernie is a "one trick pony". DCBob Jan 2016 #46

Yes, Hillary's long career in military misadverturism makes her uniquely suited for mhatrw Jan 2016 #64

Hillary's positions on our military are mainstream Democrat. DCBob Jan 2016 #70

How about just calling it the Department of War like we used to? mhatrw Jan 2016 #80

As I said Hillary's position on war and our military reflect mainstream Democratic party platform. DCBob Jan 2016 #83

More stuff being thrown to see if it sticks to the wall zalinda Jan 2016 #50

Excuses, excuses. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #55

attention everyone, today's meme is.......... restorefreedom Jan 2016 #52

It's a tie, they're also catapulting the gun nut propaganda! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #53

well, it is the weekend, right? we need two! restorefreedom Jan 2016 #54

You need more Skidmore Jan 2016 #57

thanks! will keep in mind for the next big meme announcement, sure to come restorefreedom Jan 2016 #60

This issue has been well discussed many many times on this board. DCBob Jan 2016 #69

no links, no substantive argument in that op restorefreedom Jan 2016 #84

I was just making the point the issue has been discussed and its nothing new. DCBob Jan 2016 #88

oh, ok yes it certainly has been discussed at length restorefreedom Jan 2016 #100

Real men talk WAR. mhatrw Jan 2016 #59

... 99Forever Jan 2016 #61

Hillary backed one of the biggest foreign policy mistakes Broward Jan 2016 #62

Iraq was not her doing. And Bernie as Pres wants to "rid the planet" of a "barbarous" population. ucrdem Jan 2016 #65

So did John Kerry, Joe Biden and John Edwards... DCBob Jan 2016 #71

No,no,no,no,no Armstead Jan 2016 #89

Yes, yes, yes... they all did vote for the Iraq war. DCBob Jan 2016 #93

A lot of people knew better Armstead Jan 2016 #103

+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #111

I would not have voted for it. DCBob Jan 2016 #120

I listened to Powell and my BS meter went through the roof Armstead Jan 2016 #123

Good for you.. but most Senate Democrats believed it. DCBob Jan 2016 #124

Please read my revised post Armstead Jan 2016 #125

Alot of smart people did. DCBob Jan 2016 #126

I really had to hold my nose tightly in 2004 to vote for Kerry. His argument was not that KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #107

Little realizing that he'd be prosecuting a much worse situation 10 years later Armstead Jan 2016 #108

I remember vividly turning to my wife (after I picked my jaw up off the floor) when KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #109

Sanders eagerly helped to hand that power to Bush, too. Case closed. Orrex Jan 2016 #73

Did you forget that it was Bin Laden who attacked us, not Saddam? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #78

No shit? That's fucking amazing! I've never heard that before! Orrex Jan 2016 #85

You heard it here, folks! BERNIE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IRAQ!!! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #86

You become more disappointing as primary season rolls on Orrex Jan 2016 #94

The "cult" who's aware of actual facts and isn't supporting a war hawk? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #98

I think this is a valid point. I'm a strong Sanders supporter but he should be asked to KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #112

Thank you. Orrex Jan 2016 #121

I started protesting in the streets against Bush in October 2001, but even I cannot KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #133

Bernie's Vice Presidential choice Boomer Jan 2016 #66

Exactly. Better to have great complementarily of strengths and a solid cabinet. JudyM Jan 2016 #75

I agree but when we talk "strength," we have to be careful. Nyan Jan 2016 #82

Agreed Boomer Jan 2016 #117

Bill Richardson maybe? (A three-fer, as Richardson brings foreign policy chops, geographic KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #114

If you recognize that the oligarchy runs our foreign policy as most of Bernie's daybranch Jan 2016 #67

Deficit? 99Forever Jan 2016 #72

It's the actual title of the article??? Skidmore Jan 2016 #74

I don't care where it came from. 99Forever Jan 2016 #77

Here's my question. Nyan Jan 2016 #76

She also said the Iranians were her enemies. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #79

Hillary was channeling her inner KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #116

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jan 2016 #87

K&R mcar Jan 2016 #90

Bernie is a big risk to the security of this country should he somehow win the WH. DCBob Jan 2016 #91

foreign policy deficit - CODE for DOES NOT LIKE WAR SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #92

According to Bernie's website his Foreign Policy experience consists of ONE thing Lucinda Jan 2016 #104

He's seems not even interested in foreign policy. DCBob Jan 2016 #122

Sanders has as much foreign policy experience as JFK and LBJ. So your KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #110

And as much as Bill Clinton had and Obama had Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #115

Why is Bernie so resistant to talk about foreign policy and national security? DCBob Jan 2016 #128

Wow! WTG Bernie? workinclasszero Jan 2016 #127

Bernie has been given many opportunties to answer questions on foreign policy, he dances off Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #129

I don't think national security is the big deal with the voters that the pubs play it to be. napi21 Jan 2016 #131

Thin? With a domestic policy deficit, what would a strong defense defend, anyway -- itself? ancianita Jan 2016 #137

As opposed to Hillarry who is a disgusting warmonger? Odin2005 Jan 2016 #139

Hillary's good judgment deficit. AtomicKitten Jan 2016 #140