2016 Postmortem

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135. ^^^Absolutely, positively THIS!^^^

Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:13 PM

Feb 2016

How can anyone see this and not question where Hillary is really coming from? Liberals and Progressives are not Right of Center.
Hillary is in this for the personal fame and glory. That is why she wants to win so badly. Bernie is in it for the people. That is why we need him to win this.
Haven't we had enough of the status quo, orchestrated by the Big Money? Haven't we had enough of voting for the lesser of the evils? Now we have a real choice, for the first time in many decades. Big Money or the Common Citizen? Which are you?

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You know what really fucking gets my goat? [View all] boston bean Feb 2016 OP

Since now. Agschmid Feb 2016 #1

All depends on how you look at it Armstead Feb 2016 #34

NO ... I suspect if HRC fought to a tie in N.H., she would say ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #83

Your faith in her consistent honesty is refreshing Armstead Feb 2016 #88

BTW ... We are talking about Bernie supporters. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #90

Well, just like Clinton suppoerters, Bernie supporters are a large collection of individuals Armstead Feb 2016 #92

Okay, let me be more specific ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #101

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #112

If this were the GE, a 0.2% difference... tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #131

Didn't read the OP, I see. She specifically says that Bernie himself is calling it a win. n/t ieoeja Feb 2016 #107

It is interesting that she is seen as "losing an insurmountable lead" treestar Feb 2016 #95

You're playing with word salad...Both are different sides of the same coin Armstead Feb 2016 #98

I agree metroins Feb 2016 #2

Only if bernie wins is a win going to be a win. BigGLiberal Feb 2016 #3

the South Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #46

Because they hold Democratic primaries perhaps? hack89 Feb 2016 #67

I've seen that before treestar Feb 2016 #97

Before? Like in 2008 perhaps. n/t A Simple Game Feb 2016 #142

Historic first time Iowa victory for a woman. But it doesn't count. DanTex Feb 2016 #4

This tweet that I found fits this..... riversedge Feb 2016 #27

Who's going to pick all the splinters out of her backside? AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #108

That fits in with her hawkish attitude. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #133

i only have three words in response to this. restorefreedom Feb 2016 #5

Michigan or Ohio? JudyM Feb 2016 #35

Correct!!! Long lines in Cleveland wolfie001 Feb 2016 #56

Not to mention the SOS contacting AAs in Cleveland telling them they weren't eligible to vote! JudyM Feb 2016 #66

michigan. i was referring to the dws brouhaha in 2008 restorefreedom Feb 2016 #65

K then I will add a 4th word to your important list. JudyM Feb 2016 #72

:) nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #79

I found this online ... it helps to explain how some people react to difficult news. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #6

Plus we knew the delegates was going to be split before the caucus. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #7

Laugh at it leftynyc Feb 2016 #8

It's the winners acting like children alarimer Feb 2016 #96

Do feel free to link leftynyc Feb 2016 #113

As was said elsewhere on DU but worth repeating: LibDemAlways Feb 2016 #122

When the results are in contest ErisDiscordia Feb 2016 #9

If that were true, which is highly doubtful, Bernie winning by a half percentage point means a win? boston bean Feb 2016 #10

A "dirty" win is nothing to boast about ErisDiscordia Feb 2016 #15

A "dirty" win?? absolute proof of that please... not innuendo, made up shit... provide actual proof boston bean Feb 2016 #16

I'd like to see that proof too mcar Feb 2016 #26

Why should he? Coin tosses...I saw the live video of the refusing to recount. There were others if libdem4life Feb 2016 #59

Sour grapes is the only "evidence' that Sander fans have.. riversedge Feb 2016 #64

You asked someone to retract their opinion. Disagreement doesn't mean "sour grapes". libdem4life Feb 2016 #70

Sadly sounding so typically right wing! Madmiddle Feb 2016 #63

The only thing happening is Sander's wants to verify the integrity of the process. kristopher Feb 2016 #147

According to your argument Geronimoe Feb 2016 #109

If "hypocrisy and double standards just piss me right the fuck off" Indepatriot Feb 2016 #11

K&R betsuni Feb 2016 #12

What really fucking doesn't get your goat? Wilms Feb 2016 #13

Hey! Quit fucking my goat! He's getting upset! Human101948 Feb 2016 #37

I almost left it out. Wilms Feb 2016 #48

Understood... Human101948 Feb 2016 #50

it's the every kid gets a trophy mentality. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #14

What really gets my goat is disproportionate attention Trump taking 2nd vs Bernie essentially tied lostnfound Feb 2016 #17

I thought I was discussing fairness? What makes you think I'm not? boston bean Feb 2016 #18

would sanders be accomdating to Clinton if the roles were reversed? beachbum bob Feb 2016 #19

Would Sanders supporters be accommodating to Clinton supporters if the roles were reversed? randome Feb 2016 #21

Maybe your condescending attitude brings out the worst in people Armstead Feb 2016 #36

Do you claim that the Hillary group doesn't do the same thing? Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #93

You want to talk bans? I was banned from the Clinton group in 2012 jeff47 Feb 2016 #100

this aint 2012...and I thought Bernie and his supporters were grownups...proven they are not beachbum bob Feb 2016 #144

Yeah, it isn't. You'd think 4 years before the election, "might not win" would not be objectionable jeff47 Feb 2016 #145

If Iowa election officials would clear up whatever confusion the Sanders campaign has, Vinca Feb 2016 #20

Congratulations in being just as smug as Romney was when he was declared winner in Iowa... cascadiance Feb 2016 #22

Forget it, Jake -- it's Bernietown. nt Codeine Feb 2016 #23

If Sanders had won by the same margin mcar Feb 2016 #24

He wasn't the favorite to win. He was the underdog. It would have been a massive upset. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #60

Search for "Presumptive Nominee" and "Hillary" and work your way back through a year of news AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #111

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #115

And it never will be for some. eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #153

You know what really gets MY goat? Kentonio Feb 2016 #25

Why do you demean a poster when he laid out his reasons well. ? riversedge Feb 2016 #28

Well.. Kentonio Feb 2016 #29

who is that woman? NOT HILLARY. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #33

C'mon now you know. oasis Feb 2016 #47

When any perceived response is branded as sexist, that's a sorry state of affairs Armstead Feb 2016 #39

Give the governor a "harumph"! deutsey Feb 2016 #84

She made her speech a full twelve hours early. Poor form. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #30

she won. you happy now? Hiraeth Feb 2016 #31

by 0.2 point, yes. Nyan Feb 2016 #77

it does have a wonderful ring to it, doesn't it. Slimmest of margins has a nice ring too. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #78

Context is everything -- If an equally close tie/loss in NH, Cliton would be the winner... Armstead Feb 2016 #32

The fact is, she claimed it before all the votes had even been calculated. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #38

When was the last time the Democratic Party in IA had their caucus results called into question boston bean Feb 2016 #40

When was the last time it was this close? Duh. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #42

So, it was a tie? No one won... boston bean Feb 2016 #44

Both camps have their own apps to follow the vote counts and the awarding of riversedge Feb 2016 #43

Their apps count coin tosses and mistakes? nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #49

WHEN ONE camp already has the required delegates to win and based on the remaining riversedge Feb 2016 #62

You know very well if the shoe were on the other foot and Bernie was 0.2% ahead they would be saying book_worm Feb 2016 #41

Mr Bean, you hit the nail on the head. Nitram Feb 2016 #45

We are. Bernie did win. Sorry you can't see it. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #51

LOL! Nitram Feb 2016 #57

This is a battle for the most powerful job in the world aintitfunny Feb 2016 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Bubzer Feb 2016 #53

Only difference? One is a corporate shill and one is not? fbc Feb 2016 #54

No, what gets your goat is that Clinton barely won. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #55

Hillary won the most delegates watoos Feb 2016 #58

Bernie's in New Hampshire!!! wolfie001 Feb 2016 #61

Glad Sanders Wanted to Know the Vote Totals Billsmile Feb 2016 #68

"Since when the fuck does a win not mean a win" < When the winner works for the bank$ters instead of jtuck004 Feb 2016 #69

This thread proves DU is in for a rough few weeks. 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #71

School yard rant, nothing more. dpatbrown Feb 2016 #73

Hillary Wins! cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #74

what fucking gets my goat is Nyan Feb 2016 #75

Heads or tails? AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #76

Since a woman won a primary. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #80

Stop playing the gender victim Geronimoe Feb 2016 #114

Complete deflection on your part. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #116

You know what really gets my goat Bean? KPN Feb 2016 #81

Perhaps her campaign calling it a victory speech before a close count was in had something to do it? merrily Feb 2016 #82

NOT A BALL GAME! ellennelle Feb 2016 #85

Hillary Clinton won the Iowa Caucus alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #86

More than a little disturbing, IMO. eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #154

This is what gets my goat. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #87

You know what really gets MY goat? Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #89

^^^Absolutely, positively THIS!^^^ -none Feb 2016 #135

Is this OK? tularetom Feb 2016 #91

Since it is a woman treestar Feb 2016 #94

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #117

And after New Hampshire? SoapBox Feb 2016 #99

Hypocrisy countryken Feb 2016 #102

Technically Hillary is next to last now JonathanRackham Feb 2016 #103

Seeing it as it really is. -none Feb 2016 #137

It doesn't take anything more than honesty Geronimoe Feb 2016 #104

"but hell fuck all what is the only difference here" AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #105

Boston Bean... get help. TryLogic Feb 2016 #106

Losing a race this close is difficult... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #110

Do you know what pisses me right the fuck off? Avalux Feb 2016 #118

"...you can try to make it seem like I'm some fringe feminist who sees sexism around every corner... OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #119

Anything anti Hillary (or pro Bernie) gets your goat. NV Whino Feb 2016 #120

When is a win skydive forever Feb 2016 #121

Congratulations to Secretary Clinton for her .2% margin of victory! frylock Feb 2016 #123

It's a mandate! OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #128

Alerting frylock Feb 2016 #134

admit that if it had turned out the opposite treestar Feb 2016 #136

Bernie has momentum. frylock Feb 2016 #140

Yep, a real landslide victory there, alright. -none Feb 2016 #138

I sorta get that quakerboy Feb 2016 #124

I got the goats! OkSustainAg Feb 2016 #125

I feel like taking a shower after reading that. Ino Feb 2016 #126

wow...someone's *awfully* sensitive Roland99 Feb 2016 #127

The caucus is over. Fighting with each other will not change it. asjr Feb 2016 #129

As a Bernie supporter, I'm feeling pretty good about this "loss." Broward Feb 2016 #130

Poor Boston Bean. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #132

here's an explanation.... mike_c Feb 2016 #139

When we don't know how many votes either won by. nt mhatrw Feb 2016 #141

When is a win not a win? anamnua Feb 2016 #143

Hillary Clinton did win the Iowa caucus Gothmog Feb 2016 #146

There is no need to "concede"... ljm2002 Feb 2016 #148

Hillary and her supporters blew a 40 point lead in Iowa. bvar22 Feb 2016 #149

Rec BIG time! MoonRiver Feb 2016 #150

Bernie was supposed to win Iowa in a huge blowout workinclasszero Feb 2016 #151

I don't know why it would bother anyone so much bigwillq Feb 2016 #152