2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: A slightly more nuanced take on whether Hillary Clinton is "establishment" [View all]dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)when evaluating establishment membership. Saying Bernie is part of the establishment is hilarious, sure he's been elected for a long time, and to his great credit he is still not in the pocket of large corporate interests. He's about the farthest from an establishment politician there is. Hillary, on the other hand, is the very embodiment of establishment politics, establishment policies, and establishment money, in a time where the establshment has abandoned the interests of non-wealthy citizens. Her sex doesn't undue that in any meaningful way.
I also would love to see a female president, just not this one. It's entirely legitimate to decide this based on policy and on financing. May not be nuanced enough for your view. Sometime nuance is a way to obscure more fundamental issues, and I believe that is the case here.