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97. No. she is NOT "the single most qualified human being on the planet."
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

Having a resume doesn't mean you were good at your job.

With all due respect, she served on Walmart's Board of Directors for six years. closeupready Feb 2016 #1
She's in favor of universal health care, and always has been. DanTex Feb 2016 #4
Hillary Clinton: Single-payer health care will "never, ever" happen closeupready Feb 2016 #7
There's a difference between single payer and universal healthcare.... Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #10
Distinction without a difference, really. closeupready Feb 2016 #11
Tell that to Holland or Germany. DanTex Feb 2016 #75
Not true. There are countries, like Switzerland, who have universal coverage but not single payer. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #84
As someone has already pointed out, BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #139
Much of the resistance and hostility to Hillary is die to gender. Hortensis Feb 2016 #187
Absolutely true ... BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #188
Single payer and universal healthcare are not the same thing. DanTex Feb 2016 #73
Are you really that clueless about what she tried to do about health care Gman Feb 2016 #83
So what happened to her? Are you clueless as to who's been donating closeupready Feb 2016 #86
I don't give a damn who's been donating to her campaign Gman Feb 2016 #90
And THAT is part of the problem. closeupready Feb 2016 #94
And it is a catastrophe waiting to happen Gman Feb 2016 #127
Done. closeupready Feb 2016 #128
Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you Gman Feb 2016 #129
Even when she was working for WalMart? n/t Herman4747 Feb 2016 #69
There are two arguments against Hillary that I consider the most bogus OKNancy Feb 2016 #46
I won't lie and say 'your views are without merit'. closeupready Feb 2016 #63
this was a beautiful capsule of necessary and abiding truth <3 thank u for propagating wisdom ElliotCarver Feb 2016 #144
Okay ... you lost me ... well ... at the start; but, this post has me gone. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #153
+1 treestar Feb 2016 #136
Do you know what she actually did while on the board? n/t Lucinda Feb 2016 #57
Helped female Walmart hourlies to get paid overtime? Oops, nope. closeupready Feb 2016 #61
How about something more relevant to the time period that she was actually on the board? Lucinda Feb 2016 #66
Everyone has "pros" and "cons" in their lives - everyone. Unfortunately some of Sanders'.... George II Feb 2016 #157
She served on Walmart's Board of Directors from 1986 to 1992 - she started... George II Feb 2016 #76
agree, she is not actively arguing against ideals treestar Feb 2016 #137
And on the board, she fought for increased diversity and better hiring NYC Liberal Feb 2016 #117
Excellent point. George II Feb 2016 #122
Exactly treestar Feb 2016 #138
It's like saying "Congress is corrupt so Sanders is wrong for joining it." NYC Liberal Feb 2016 #161
Excellent point! Empowerer Feb 2016 #179
But that doesn't matter because walmart was anti-union ... or something. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #155
FFS so what? treestar Feb 2016 #135
Each voter should decide for themselves - they should know how Walmart helped her closeupready Feb 2016 #140
If Elizabeth Warren had jumped into the race before Sanders, she'd be right where he is. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #2
I think that Elizabeth Warren would make a fine president and presdential candiate. Skinner Feb 2016 #6
Fair enough, but that alone is not reason to say she deserves it Armstead Feb 2016 #51
I wasn't arguing that her gender alone is reason to support her. Skinner Feb 2016 #52
If the 'Not Hillary' Party had gotten their 1st choice, Warren, she'd be doing much better... onehandle Feb 2016 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Feb 2016 #96
Thanks for your support of Warren. RiverLover Feb 2016 #189
A long and, IMHO, devastating reply to Skinnerian behaviorism. mhatrw Feb 2016 #180
I love and admire you Skinner, and as a woman, I respectfully disagree. Avalux Feb 2016 #3
+1. Even a woman - with a trail of apparent conflicts of interest and decisions that appear to be JudyM Feb 2016 #16
OK, Skinner rock Feb 2016 #5
Resumes often don't capture whether the candidate is actually good or bad at the job. leveymg Feb 2016 #8
Your analysis seems to ignore the axiom "follow the money" dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #9
Which stains 99% of other progressive who've worked there asses off for progressive causes uponit7771 Feb 2016 #22
I don't disagree dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #29
Saying the 1st female president, practically by definition, will have to be establishement... thesquanderer Feb 2016 #12
I would argue that in important ways she is both... Skinner Feb 2016 #14
Backwards in high heels, more of us get it than you give us credit for perhaps? Fumesucker Feb 2016 #13
I don't think my post gave you credit or withheld it. Skinner Feb 2016 #15
Margaret THatcher was a woman mikehiggins Feb 2016 #26
the uk has a long history of women leaders. mopinko Feb 2016 #36
I suppose you're talking about queens of England. Not Prime Ministers who now hold the power. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #79
Semantics whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #43
^ This. AzDar Feb 2016 #114
Speaking of semantics... OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #126
Ha ok whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #134
Well put winterwar Feb 2016 #177
The thing that Hillary supporters don't get about the majority of women is that just because Hillary jillan Feb 2016 #17
Well stated. nt elias49 Feb 2016 #40
Her resume is plenty of evidence she earned our vote Gman Feb 2016 #88
You really think to sway Hillary's women supporters by "womansplaining" BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #142
Bravo. Well stated. Duppers Feb 2016 #181
Having lady parts should be NEITHER a help nor a hindrance. basselope Feb 2016 #18
Strongly Disagree. [Consider John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, etc.] Herman4747 Feb 2016 #19
Strongly Disagree (Part 2). Herman4747 Feb 2016 #27
Sanders is pure and everyone else is stained, that's a central point of his campaign... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #20
This is well thought out, no question. But it seems that you are, in effect, giving her a pass on JudyM Feb 2016 #21
Which when called out on which decisions these were Sanders changes the subject every uponit7771 Feb 2016 #23
There are well publicized examples of evidence. He should be naming them but for whatever JudyM Feb 2016 #28
At the risk of throwing a bone to my detractors... Skinner Feb 2016 #31
Choosing to play ball because she has to is one thing; choosing to personally enrich herself by JudyM Feb 2016 #38
I do not think Hillary Clinton is any more compromised than anyone else who has become president... Skinner Feb 2016 #41
You think Obama is as ethically compromised as Hillary? JudyM Feb 2016 #44
I think every president needs to make ethical compromises. Skinner Feb 2016 #47
She has absolutely been unfairly dragged through the mud and vilified by the Conservative machine. JudyM Feb 2016 #54
Of course there are standards. Skinner Feb 2016 #56
That's fair. IMO the corruption is the most important issue. JudyM Feb 2016 #64
+1 to your last paragraph. She giggles about the optics of being closeupready Feb 2016 #70
I think you just pointed out why so many are supporting Sanders EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2016 #186
... corrupt campaign finance system... whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #45
Right, this and the corrupt cronyism and pay to play in the whole govt. JudyM Feb 2016 #49
Well, actually, he's been playing ball...but quietly, apparently. MADem Feb 2016 #192
Hillary Clinton, to a large and very real degree, controls the democratic cali Feb 2016 #24
Well, if you're going to be as bold as to say it, why not find that "somewhere". Otherwise..... George II Feb 2016 #172
Sure cali Feb 2016 #176
That's a far cry from: George II Feb 2016 #178
Afreakingmen. Thank you! PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #25
She DOES have all the advantages that money can buy, and speaking as woman from where onecaliberal Feb 2016 #30
Every serious candidate for president enjoys ALOT more advantages than 99% of this country. Skinner Feb 2016 #35
I don't penalize her for it whatsoever. I do, however,hold her accountable for championing corporate onecaliberal Feb 2016 #110
I remember how much, how deeply all republicans hated her when she was First Lady. Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #32
Thank you Skinner! n/t livetohike Feb 2016 #33
Bernie's a Jew like I'm a Catholic: not practicing, born that way WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Skinner Feb 2016 #37
Hang in there, Skinner. I'm doing this piecemeal. I don't expect rapid response WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #39
OK. Skinner Feb 2016 #42
OK my friend. I have completed my counter argument. It won't disappoint WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #53
Regarding gender... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #89
Then why didn't she? ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #105
I haven't had that conversation with Elizabeth. When I do, I'll post about it at DU WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #111
Seeing a woman in the White House isn't the top priority for most women davidn3600 Feb 2016 #158
You're creating an argument based on something you wish I had said? People let you get away... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #159
News to you and your wife and her friends and everyone your circle has ever spoken to WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #171
I'm NOT fed up with the people in power Blue_Adept Feb 2016 #48
I don't penalize her for the titles on her resume. I penalize her for how she conducts herself TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #50
HUGE K&R!! n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #55
Very good points here. lovemydog Feb 2016 #58
k&r bigtree Feb 2016 #59
With all due respect... Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #60
Excellent analysis DesertRat Feb 2016 #62
To be honest I think Bernie tosses aorund the term Establishment too loosely, BUT Armstead Feb 2016 #65
That argument may have worked in the 70s or 80s but not today. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #67
You're asking us for special treatment because she is female? TBF Feb 2016 #68
I'm not asking you to do anything. Skinner Feb 2016 #77
Fair enough, TBF Feb 2016 #81
Hillary supporters bragged about her support by the establishment until it became an issue. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #71
Can ypu let us know if your OP was alerted on? boston bean Feb 2016 #72
once we had a president who was the first to not pander to the WASPs--his religion was even MisterP Feb 2016 #74
You place too much faith in Elizabeth Warren's hair style when you say there is no way a socialist Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #78
Nobody is judging them on their hairstyles... Skinner Feb 2016 #82
Neither of us wants to head down a slippery slope of pointing out well loved female public figures Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #95
I am arguing that if she was from a state smaller than Massachusetts,... Skinner Feb 2016 #99
One reason (not the predominant reason, but a reason) why I support Sanders is that - win or lose - Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #120
Great post. But... Gman Feb 2016 #80
Hillary was born into the establishment Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #85
I'm originally from that area - isn't Park Ridge the little closeupready Feb 2016 #93
I grew up in the general area also... Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #103
oh ok - I know it was one of those tiny villages near O'Hare - closeupready Feb 2016 #106
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #87
"The Establishment" is a small group who control a larger organization AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #92
No. she is NOT "the single most qualified human being on the planet." antigop Feb 2016 #97
That's why I added the qualifier "on paper." (nt) Skinner Feb 2016 #101
That "paper" doesn't mean diddly. nt antigop Feb 2016 #108
Skinner, words have meaning. It's cringeworthy for Clinton to say she can't be the establishment... uhnope Feb 2016 #98
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the only people cringing... Skinner Feb 2016 #100
I wish that were true but it's not. uhnope Feb 2016 #107
My entire OP is a response to your post. Skinner Feb 2016 #113
so re Rich-White-Male-Protestant-WallStreet-ProWar-FreeMarketCapitalist-Political-Elite uhnope Feb 2016 #115
That wasn't actually my point. Skinner Feb 2016 #118
thank you for your patience. uhnope Feb 2016 #123
I guess in her purposely narrow frame (establishment = male presidents) whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #163
Doesn't make sense for someone whose been in power in DC 25 years to BainsBane Feb 2016 #125
your argument is not sound & you are confusing concepts & words uhnope Feb 2016 #133
K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #102
Look, David ... The fact of her womanhood is immaterial to our quest Trajan Feb 2016 #104
+ a gazillion. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #109
You're in luck! Neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama are running for President. nt onehandle Feb 2016 #116
Not Once did you mention Iraq Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #112
I don't have much to add right now, but I want to say that this Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #119
Nuanced take or no, the ends do not justify the means. U of M Dem Feb 2016 #121
Truly one of the strangest and most misguided things I've ever read in the more than 10 years I've AzDar Feb 2016 #124
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #130
What a hideous picture. Skinner Feb 2016 #131
Well, aren't you special. zappaman Feb 2016 #132
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #141
A very hearty thank you to you, Skinner! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #143
DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #145
I believe the examples of both Bernie and Elizabeth Warren eviscerate your argument. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #146
Two word response: Elizabeth Warren mhatrw Feb 2016 #147
Establishment politics in the context of the US is defined by who receives corporate money. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #148
This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Feb 2016 #151
Tell ya what, you name them, and I will explain how no matter what they gave Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #154
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This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Feb 2016 #149
K&R! betsuni Feb 2016 #150
Her picture is in the dictionary next to the word TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #152
Skinner - this is, hands down the best piece I've ever read on DU in the time I've been here Empowerer Feb 2016 #160
Hear, hear!!! I was trying to make that point yesterday. Beacool Feb 2016 #162
Well reasoned, and a good read. FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #164
It's true that women need to work the system more skillfully wildeyed Feb 2016 #165
I wonder, if Elizabeth Warren had "Albert Einstein hair" and called herself a Democratic Socialist Matariki Feb 2016 #166
If Obama had ran his campaign like Sanders, FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #169
What aspect of the way Sanders is running his campaign do you mean? Matariki Feb 2016 #174
Skinner, apart from her gender, I genuinely would love to her your other reasons Matariki Feb 2016 #167
If that were the only knock against her Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #168
I think that Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate running for POTUS Gothmog Feb 2016 #170
Secretary of State is the Top of The Heap. Any Man Would be Thrilled to end his political career Hiraeth Feb 2016 #173
Good points, all. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #175
I actually turned around a Sanders supporter with this tonight Gman Feb 2016 #182
KICK Cha Feb 2016 #183
Her resuma includes the Iraq war eridani Feb 2016 #184
Kick. (Wish I could share links to DU as I used to but can't, too embarrassing) betsuni Feb 2016 #185
Now I'll have to reconsider Margaret Thatcher as anti-establishment if I agree with your OP aikoaiko Feb 2016 #190
She's a victim of sexism as are all women senseandsensibility Feb 2016 #191
I have not said that you should. (nt) Skinner Feb 2016 #193
You're right, but "some" have, from surrogates senseandsensibility Feb 2016 #194
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