2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: A slightly more nuanced take on whether Hillary Clinton is "establishment" [View all]uhnope
(6,419 posts)...because she's a woman. It just plain doesn't make sense. It's like she doesn't understand the meaning of the word.
It's like saying rich people have nice hairdos, and Trump's hair is a mess so he can't be a rich man.
It's apparently mixing up the words "establishment" and "traditional" or just "different." We have no tradition of electing a woman for president. That would be different. But Clinton is just about the definition of a member of the establishment.
Skinner you go far afield in your post, and by the end you are way off topic, when you say that we can't expect the first woman president to be anti-establishment. No one said that. Hell, most people would vote Obama a third term even though, as president, he is technically synonymous with the establishment.
Hillary is not "being penalized", as you say, because she is a member of the establishment. She's suffering repercussions because she is so disingenuously or confusedly claiming she can't be a part of the establishment for the simple fact that she's a woman. It's bizarre & kind of nuts to make that claim, which she's doing pretty often now, and level-headed people are stuck in cringing mode over it.