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Moostache

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45. This quote is one of the defining problems in America:
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:53 PM
Feb 2016
“Bernie’s attractiveness as a candidate relies on the premise of purity — a political value as ancient as politics itself,” wrote The New Yorker’s Alexandra Schwartz, dismissing her youthful cohort for their naivete before knocking them for not even being very cool young people to begin with. “When his campaign tweets that it’s ‘high time we stopped bailing out Wall Street and started repairing Main Street,’ you have to wonder why his youngest supporters, so attuned to staleness in all things cultural, are letting him get away with political rhetoric that would have seemed old even in 2012.”


Bernie's attractiveness as a candidate is NOT something that is defined by a writer's opinion of what is or is not anachronistic. The problem with Hillary Clinton is not her gender, it is her associations and stated beliefs that do NOT align with the needs of the vast majority of Americans.

She is tainted by the associations that she and Bill willingly chased after his presidency. She is tainted by her voting record as a carpet-bagging Senator from New York. She is further tainted by the ugliness of her 2008 campaign and now what is becoming a carbon-copy nasty 2016 version.

The reasons to dislike her are legion and sadly they detract from the reasons to like her to produce a net negative candidacy.

Attacking Bernie Sanders supporters does not make Hillary any less of a general election liability. It only ensures that she is now still what she was in 2008 during the primaries - 100% willing to harm the party and sacrifice the middle class if it means she gets the big tiara in the end.

I support Bernie Sanders because of Hillary Clinton and her back-stabbing, sell the rest of us down the river cohort....NOT because of anything else.
Oh please! bravenak Feb 2016 #1
Like you read that long piece. cali Feb 2016 #2
Yeah, she did it in the minute you had it up before she commented Arazi Feb 2016 #5
No need. bravenak Feb 2016 #6
Sorry to have waste your time.... daleanime Feb 2016 #27
You too. bravenak Feb 2016 #28
That Clinton crime bill also included an assault weapons ban and the Violence Against Women act. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #55
It also enshrined mass incarceration into law bravenak Feb 2016 #58
Yes, that Clinton bill was a mess. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #63
I doubt his interest in my issues. bravenak Feb 2016 #64
How hootinholler Feb 2016 #44
Like that post? bravenak Feb 2016 #50
Calling someone cogent is disgusting? hootinholler Feb 2016 #51
Lol! "You confuse me. I applaud you" JudyM Feb 2016 #85
True. The end product does matter. Baitball Blogger Feb 2016 #3
BTW? Bernie was a YES vote on that omnibus crime bill. bravenak Feb 2016 #4
HRC was a yes for cluster bombs Arazi Feb 2016 #7
Cluster bombs suck. So does mass incarceration. bravenak Feb 2016 #10
Hillary's top bundlers include mass incarceration/private prison corps Arazi Feb 2016 #13
Bernie had a vote. It was YES. bravenak Feb 2016 #14
Cluster bombs shredding the kiddies - YES! Arazi Feb 2016 #15
Has nothing to do with his Yes Vote. bravenak Feb 2016 #17
Your selective outrage of which brown and black people matter Arazi Feb 2016 #19
I like to stay on my topics. bravenak Feb 2016 #21
Multi tasking is hard Arazi Feb 2016 #23
Addressing your candidates vote seems harder. bravenak Feb 2016 #24
Oh you already know that story Arazi Feb 2016 #25
I know that a certain Senator votes YES on funding those millitary supplies every time. bravenak Feb 2016 #26
Lame and weak. Once the war is on nobody will de-fund them Arazi Feb 2016 #29
Pacifists do not exist in our govt legis bodies. bravenak Feb 2016 #32
Hillary will use drones and more Arazi Feb 2016 #37
Ok. bravenak Feb 2016 #38
"Every bomb is a school we didn't build" Jesse Jackson Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #31
The congress. bravenak Feb 2016 #33
The wouldn't fund a war that didn't exist Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #36
Indeed. GWB was terrible. bravenak Feb 2016 #40
Hillary Clinton is not entitled to black votes Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #42
Neither is Bernie. bravenak Feb 2016 #52
So true. (eom) oasis Feb 2016 #77
She's wasting your time. sammythecat Feb 2016 #72
Interesting that you know my mind. I have no clue who you are. bravenak Feb 2016 #78
Should their AA victims matter? Akicita Feb 2016 #57
What does that mean? bravenak Feb 2016 #59
It means I want poor and POC neighborhoods to be safe. Akicita Feb 2016 #60
Ok. bravenak Feb 2016 #61
And you know why. It is duplicitous to pretend you don't cali Feb 2016 #8
He voted yes. On that bill. Clean hands and all. bravenak Feb 2016 #9
Waas a "Yes" vote on the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, too ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #11
I seem to remember that. bravenak Feb 2016 #12
One would think, given his present position. eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #18
Indeed. bravenak Feb 2016 #22
Please see post #48 (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #49
That was lumped into an omnibus spending bill at the last minute after last minute modifications. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #39
I guess it depends on whether he was more for the the spending bill than he was 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #43
Well, that would hold if hootinholler Feb 2016 #47
What are you responding to? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #67
I was referring to the CfMA. I don't know enough about the crime bill to comment. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #65
Really ... Not since 1998 ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #68
Ah, you're right! My mistake. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #73
I do not hold Bill Clinton blameless for, either, the CFMA nor the Crime Bill ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #74
Understood. That's a fine position. I am unsure of how to approach the issue. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #76
vid at link Go Vols Feb 2016 #79
Thank you. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #89
It was not the crime bill that was rolled into the omnibus spending bill, it was the CFMA. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #66
How Sanders came to support Bill Clinton's Commodity Futures Modernization Act thesquanderer Feb 2016 #48
Why should Sanders have voted against the Violence Against Women Act? jeff47 Feb 2016 #82
Good. Then if he gets a pass, so do they, yay! bravenak Feb 2016 #83
The difference is Sanders opposed the tougher sentences. jeff47 Feb 2016 #84
So? bravenak Feb 2016 #86
So now you're back to advocating Sanders vote against the Violence Against Women Act. jeff47 Feb 2016 #88
EXACTLY! No one wants a candidate "who gets THINGS done." W and Cheney got THINGS done. Reagan got Vote2016 Feb 2016 #16
Excellent post. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #81
The uglier the Clintons get, the prouder I am to be a Bernie supporter. senz Feb 2016 #20
Hillary is all about Hillary. jalan48 Feb 2016 #30
Absurd. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #34
how do you know? Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #41
Really? Got those coins ready? TBF Feb 2016 #53
You have inside information? Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #54
+1000. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #75
K&R jwirr Feb 2016 #35
This quote is one of the defining problems in America: Moostache Feb 2016 #45
WHile Hillary was on the board of Directors of Walmart Geronimoe Feb 2016 #46
As seen on DU. eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #56
Whoops! Don't forget all those black kids mikehiggins Feb 2016 #62
K & R! SoapBox Feb 2016 #69
A WOMAN DOESN’T GET THE FUCKING OPTION *NOT* TO PLAY THE GAME MisterP Feb 2016 #70
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #71
The decision is very simple. Utopian Leftist Feb 2016 #80
Between the Middle East and peoples views of Wall Street, ... Babel_17 Feb 2016 #87
Thanks for the delusional nonsense. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #90
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