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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Dems, stop lying to yourselves about Hillary: Sure, she “gets s*** done” — atrocious s***, that is [View all]Moostache
(9,895 posts)45. This quote is one of the defining problems in America:
Bernies attractiveness as a candidate relies on the premise of purity a political value as ancient as politics itself, wrote The New Yorkers Alexandra Schwartz, dismissing her youthful cohort for their naivete before knocking them for not even being very cool young people to begin with. When his campaign tweets that its high time we stopped bailing out Wall Street and started repairing Main Street, you have to wonder why his youngest supporters, so attuned to staleness in all things cultural, are letting him get away with political rhetoric that would have seemed old even in 2012.
Bernie's attractiveness as a candidate is NOT something that is defined by a writer's opinion of what is or is not anachronistic. The problem with Hillary Clinton is not her gender, it is her associations and stated beliefs that do NOT align with the needs of the vast majority of Americans.
She is tainted by the associations that she and Bill willingly chased after his presidency. She is tainted by her voting record as a carpet-bagging Senator from New York. She is further tainted by the ugliness of her 2008 campaign and now what is becoming a carbon-copy nasty 2016 version.
The reasons to dislike her are legion and sadly they detract from the reasons to like her to produce a net negative candidacy.
Attacking Bernie Sanders supporters does not make Hillary any less of a general election liability. It only ensures that she is now still what she was in 2008 during the primaries - 100% willing to harm the party and sacrifice the middle class if it means she gets the big tiara in the end.
I support Bernie Sanders because of Hillary Clinton and her back-stabbing, sell the rest of us down the river cohort....NOT because of anything else.
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Dems, stop lying to yourselves about Hillary: Sure, she “gets s*** done” — atrocious s***, that is [View all]
cali
Feb 2016
OP
That Clinton crime bill also included an assault weapons ban and the Violence Against Women act.
thesquanderer
Feb 2016
#55
I know that a certain Senator votes YES on funding those millitary supplies every time.
bravenak
Feb 2016
#26
Waas a "Yes" vote on the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, too ...
1StrongBlackMan
Feb 2016
#11
That was lumped into an omnibus spending bill at the last minute after last minute modifications.
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#39
I guess it depends on whether he was more for the the spending bill than he was
1StrongBlackMan
Feb 2016
#43
I was referring to the CfMA. I don't know enough about the crime bill to comment.
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#65
I do not hold Bill Clinton blameless for, either, the CFMA nor the Crime Bill ...
1StrongBlackMan
Feb 2016
#74
Understood. That's a fine position. I am unsure of how to approach the issue.
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#76
It was not the crime bill that was rolled into the omnibus spending bill, it was the CFMA.
thesquanderer
Feb 2016
#66
How Sanders came to support Bill Clinton's Commodity Futures Modernization Act
thesquanderer
Feb 2016
#48
So now you're back to advocating Sanders vote against the Violence Against Women Act.
jeff47
Feb 2016
#88