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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
242. You guys only see what's under your noses.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 08:31 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary will get nothing, not even SCOTUS appointees. People hate her, stop listening to Chris Matthews slobbering about the good old days of Tip and the Gipper.

Electing Hillary is a commitment to the status quo. Congratulations, you're relatively happy with the status quo.

A Bernie win indicates the party has left you behind (to political revolution) and is a signal to the hundreds of Dems endorsing Hillary that they, like Hillary, must move with Bernie or get swept out.

You miss the significance of that, so let me repeat it. From the very start, Hillary has been forced toward Bernie, not vice versa. That's not leadership. That's playing defense, her comfort zone. She loves being attacked, she reminds us daily. You can surely expect the rest of the establishment to move toward Bernie, as well, should he win. At this point, the establishment wants to protect its interests and maintain the status quo.

The establishment would naturally think primary challenge, today. He's not a Democrat and he's a threat to the status quo, i.e., the establishment.

It's worth repeating, because this point never penetrates the shell around Hillary and her supporters: she will accomplish nothing. People think the Rs are obstructionist now? They revile her. As she's doing in this primary, Hillary is going to be playing the woman card a lot if she gets elected. For someone who wants to cozy up to Obama, she should have learned that lesson from him. He never stooped so low as to blamed racism for the attacks being hurled at him. That's leadership. "Oh woe is me" isn't.

Another thing you all miss: Obama was the change candidate, but turned into an establishment president. People want change more than ever, which is why someone calling for change for 30 years is resonating.

Finally, people are tired of Hillary's dumb wars.

I can't believe this line is working... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #1
Believe it. bravenak Feb 2016 #3
What's your answer then? TCJ70 Feb 2016 #7
She never promised to get a 'more progressive than Bernie' agenda through congress. bravenak Feb 2016 #12
I didn't ask what...I asked how... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #15
The opposition will be different. bravenak Feb 2016 #19
Anything will be a big fight... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #20
Fight back? bravenak Feb 2016 #21
Changing the political climate takes time and pressure... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #36
Four years making absolutely NO PROGRESS. bravenak Feb 2016 #37
Settle if you want... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #38
Okay. bravenak Feb 2016 #39
Gosh you sound like me. I didn't realize I had a clone out there. Keep saying what you're saying. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #150
Ha!! bravenak Feb 2016 #151
These same people supporting Sanders gave President Obama PURE HELL after he couldn't get Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #247
BSS are now admitting Bernie would not get anything done redstateblues Feb 2016 #253
They want us to believe that after them treating the president like shit and the Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #255
well heaven05 Feb 2016 #44
This is why JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #236
you are now heaven05 Feb 2016 #243
Oh god yes bravenak Feb 2016 #239
I send heaven05 Feb 2016 #244
Amazing as always. I salute you! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #248
keep up the good fight heaven05 Feb 2016 #333
He's been saying those same things for the past 30 years. Chuck Todd of MTP did an interview politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #148
Timing matters... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #149
Or it means that he's an alarmist and you have to take what he says with a grain of salt. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #153
He sure has, but no one brings that up. Thank you so much for your posts. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #252
Also, all these folks are just opportunists looking for a job should Bernie actually win. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #125
Please no. bravenak Feb 2016 #127
What the hell kind of post is this? TCJ70 Feb 2016 #142
I was talking about Ben Jealous, the subject of the original OP. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #156
The point I was making about Ben Jealous last week is twofold... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #250
You mean "bear" market, right? brush Feb 2016 #305
Great analysis gwheezie Feb 2016 #168
This really is a very crucial issue and I hope it gets addressed. bravenak Feb 2016 #169
I'll answer that. Hillary has a reputation of reaching across the aisle and working with others to politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #140
Sorry, but... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #141
How condescending. I didn't tell you that you were stupid so I don't need you to tell me that I politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #143
I was basing it on this: TCJ70 Feb 2016 #146
Bernie Sanders means shit to me because he knew how Obama has been treated for 8 years... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #254
So, who worked with Republicans to audit the fed and finally got one done? cascadiance Feb 2016 #326
He cries for a revolution...except for when it comes to us Negroes. We should just shut up Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #245
It's not Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #40
I stand with Bernie and thank him for addressing the issue. bravenak Feb 2016 #43
Bubble. I think Bernie's supporters are saying he is.. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #107
Lol! JudyM Feb 2016 #207
"his first term" LOL redstateblues Feb 2016 #209
You guys only see what's under your noses. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #242
Bernie has no allies. Congressional candidates would get as far away redstateblues Feb 2016 #256
Fair enough. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #259
How Can ANY Sentient Human Be "Convinced" By Hillary? CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #220
Um, duh? We are robots. AI. bravenak Feb 2016 #227
So Bernie can give us single payer and free college? itsrobert Feb 2016 #317
Hey Robert... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #318
I'm of the opinion Bernie will not be able to work with a republican congress itsrobert Feb 2016 #319
How will HRC improve the ACA with that same Republican congress? TCJ70 Feb 2016 #320
She may not be abe to rightaway, but 8 years more time of ACA itsrobert Feb 2016 #321
So, you're going to hedge your bets... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #322
Sorry, but Bernie is not gong to get anything done itsrobert Feb 2016 #323
Welcome back! n/t Godhumor Feb 2016 #2
Thanks! bravenak Feb 2016 #4
thanks for posting rbrnmw Feb 2016 #5
You know I read everything! bravenak Feb 2016 #6
... rbrnmw Feb 2016 #14
Have you read about what Bill Clinton's crime bill did to African American men? Punkingal Feb 2016 #23
The one Bernie voted for? bravenak Feb 2016 #24
She was the First Lady...she supported his policies and she is running on being First lady. Punkingal Feb 2016 #26
But Bernie Voted For it. bravenak Feb 2016 #29
There's video of her pushing the bill. Bonobo Feb 2016 #32
I have his vote for it. It was a YES vote. On the bill. bravenak Feb 2016 #34
Because the bill contained the Violence Against Women Act. (But, of course, you know this already) Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #49
I want to hear him discuss it NOW. bravenak Feb 2016 #50
So you could now be accusing him of voting against the Violence Against Women act instead? Kentonio Feb 2016 #79
Addressing it now has no impact on his past vote bravenak Feb 2016 #80
He addressed it at the time he cast the vote. Why would anything have changed since then? Kentonio Feb 2016 #83
He's running for president. bravenak Feb 2016 #84
Disingenuous at best. You know why he voted for it Arazi Feb 2016 #87
People bring up the IWR even though she has addressed it many times. bravenak Feb 2016 #92
Lol, nothing he says will change your mind Arazi Feb 2016 #99
Nothing will change my mind. Very true. bravenak Feb 2016 #100
Oh but black youth are super predators who need to be brought to heel Arazi Feb 2016 #101
Sad that he voted for it. bravenak Feb 2016 #102
HRC voted for cluster bombs and war with Iraq Arazi Feb 2016 #106
You keep saying that. bravenak Feb 2016 #108
You demand discussion from him, even tho it won't matter Arazi Feb 2016 #117
I can discuss or not if I please. bravenak Feb 2016 #119
Of course you can!! Please proceed! Arazi Feb 2016 #120
POC do not need non POC attacking us with it constantly bravenak Feb 2016 #122
Nobody's saying you (or any POC) wrote any of this Arazi Feb 2016 #129
You really want to know? bravenak Feb 2016 #130
I understand mean Bernie supporters drove you away Arazi Feb 2016 #139
I see them as unsupportable at this timd. bravenak Feb 2016 #172
And...? Kentonio Feb 2016 #89
He needs to say something now. bravenak Feb 2016 #91
Why? You're asking a question that was answered years ago. What is the point of asking again? Kentonio Feb 2016 #97
It was years ago. I want to hear him discuss it NOW. bravenak Feb 2016 #98
I'm fairly sure he's been asked about it multiple times already during this campaign season. Kentonio Feb 2016 #111
Clearly your numerous and ummm.. DEVOTED fans have missed you terribly. Number23 Feb 2016 #145
Thank you!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #218
She admits in post 100 that even if he addresses it NOW, it won't matter Arazi Feb 2016 #105
I'm with bravenak, too. It doesn't matter to me, either. Carry on! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #257
I have yet to see a DU Clinton supporter be honest about this. Vattel Feb 2016 #211
Yep. 'He needs to apologize' He needs to apologize for nothing. The record clearly shows he Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #216
Thanks for helping to set the record straight. Vattel Feb 2016 #217
Yeah, and Vermont had a big problem with mass incarceration Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #222
I know!!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #225
Could you point to one office that he held that would change that. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #226
You know we know he couldn't do anything right? bravenak Feb 2016 #234
That would be a no. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #235
so he was against it yet voted for it anyway! omg- a politician! bettyellen Feb 2016 #194
Damn it....those pesky facts again bravenak workinclasszero Feb 2016 #33
I know! bravenak Feb 2016 #35
Former O'Malley supporter here JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #53
She mentions being First Lady. Punkingal Feb 2016 #308
It's not a secret JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #309
FFS, she talks about it as part of her experience. Punkingal Feb 2016 #315
I don't care! JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #316
Neither do I. Punkingal Feb 2016 #324
Excellent! JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #325
First Ladies get to vote? sheshe2 Feb 2016 #210
Try Secretary of State/ brush Feb 2016 #306
I suppose if you really cared about that when it happened as opposed to just using it now Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #179
I did care about it then. Punkingal Feb 2016 #189
Thank you so much for this. This is what we've all been trying to get through to these Sanders Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #258
"(except for when it comes to us blacks, of course)"... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #272
Well, for starters, Reparations. Bernie Sanders claims to be a revolutionary on all accounts, except Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #274
OK, let's say he decides on a policy to give every... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #275
I'll look at what he says at the think and go from there. Much appreciated. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #276
No worries... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #278
Let's talk about reparations.... loyalsister Feb 2016 #314
I don't give a damn about Hillary because she's not getting my vote anyway. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #330
Thank you for this post... excellent summation... it should be an OP.... nt Blasphemer Feb 2016 #311
Much appreciated. I'm tired and frustrated. :( Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #334
I feel much the same way Blasphemer Feb 2016 #335
From your link ... BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #8
Nice to see you too! bravenak Feb 2016 #13
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #9
At this point, any last-minute effort to appeal to NH's minority voters ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #10
What we see is different than what his 'base' sees. bravenak Feb 2016 #17
They need to understand and fully accept that black voters have ALWAYS been **strategic** voters... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #260
DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #11
K&R mcar Feb 2016 #16
Rec leftofcool Feb 2016 #17
Maybe this would convince them. Bonobo Feb 2016 #22
Ahh! bravenak Feb 2016 #25
Hey man, if you can stomach that level of racism, good for you I guess. Bonobo Feb 2016 #27
I have dealt with FAR WORSE! bravenak Feb 2016 #28
Bernie is not a racist. Punkingal Feb 2016 #30
Who said he was? Nobody I know. bravenak Feb 2016 #31
LOL ... But that was right on cue! eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #48
Clockwork. bravenak Feb 2016 #54
Yep Gothmog Feb 2016 #206
it's the same old song rbrnmw Feb 2016 #285
Which, of course, is the expectation that they would have others apply to them ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #286
exactly rbrnmw Feb 2016 #287
I was wondering if you, or anyone, would be able to understand that ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #289
I understood it to mean rbrnmw Feb 2016 #290
Yes. Exactly. Yet, they can't seem to understand that ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #291
it's insulting I am sure they know that by now rbrnmw Feb 2016 #292
It tells me more than that ... It tells me that their ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #294
Yes bravenak Feb 2016 #293
No one is calling Sanders a racist but there are valid reasons for lack of AA support for Sanders Gothmog Feb 2016 #165
I could not have written this any better. Bravo!! And thank you so much! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #262
I like Sanders but I am not willing to abandon President Obama's legacy Gothmog Feb 2016 #271
Very reasonable. And if one cares anything about polls, the vast majority of Democrats like Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #273
FYI, bravenak can't provide any evidence Clinton has ever apologized Arazi Feb 2016 #60
Good point on black male incarceration rates up there JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #56
Apparently they are second only to Iowa! bravenak Feb 2016 #59
Hillary is in bed with Big Prison fyi Arazi Feb 2016 #62
I'm not voting in the Primary JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #63
And my reply was meant in good faith as an fyi Arazi Feb 2016 #66
There's no evidence she's EVER apologized Arazi Feb 2016 #57
wasn't she Bill's co-president? If memory serves Bill promised 2 for the price of 1 azurnoir Feb 2016 #67
Yes. bravenak Feb 2016 #71
Again... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #261
Perhaps more than a select snippit? Amimnoch Feb 2016 #283
Glad you're Back Bravenak!! Ligyron Feb 2016 #41
Hey! bravenak Feb 2016 #42
Welcome back Gothmog Feb 2016 #45
Yo! bravenak Feb 2016 #46
Welcome back! cyberswede Feb 2016 #47
Glad to see you back... TeeYiYi Feb 2016 #51
The shortest month. bravenak Feb 2016 #75
will take a while for Seniors who already have had their medicare & ss benefits for many years. Sunlei Feb 2016 #52
You are back! I am excited. My tail is wagging. nt betsuni Feb 2016 #55
Omg!! bravenak Feb 2016 #72
As blacks make up 1.1% of the New Hampshire population... NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #58
Few delegates. bravenak Feb 2016 #68
"His highlight of his campaign may very well BE NH." NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #69
Nice to agree bravenak Feb 2016 #70
I still think Sanders runs away with the NH JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #61
Me too. bravenak Feb 2016 #73
Of course they aren't. They're not stupid. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #64
Exactly bravenak Feb 2016 #65
Good to see you posting, bravenak mwrguy Feb 2016 #74
Thanks! bravenak Feb 2016 #76
I hearted you, bravenak. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #77
Thank you! bravenak Feb 2016 #82
Welcome back! Iliyah Feb 2016 #78
Yo!! bravenak Feb 2016 #81
From the article cited in OP Gothmog Feb 2016 #85
Things are looking grim after NH. bravenak Feb 2016 #96
Welcome back! tammywammy Feb 2016 #86
Thank you! bravenak Feb 2016 #95
The polling cited in OP is consistent with this polling Gothmog Feb 2016 #88
I noticed his numbers slip. bravenak Feb 2016 #93
Too much anger and failure to acknowledge or accept that NO Democratic Party candidate Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #263
K&R. Welcome back! nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #90
Thanks! bravenak Feb 2016 #94
Welcome back, Bravenak! m-lekktor Feb 2016 #103
Yo! bravenak Feb 2016 #104
Soooo glad to see you back! Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #109
Thank you!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #110
Hey sweetie! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #212
Oh jesus! bravenak Feb 2016 #213
................................ sheshe2 Feb 2016 #214
Sadder and more stupid. bravenak Feb 2016 #215
Yes~ sheshe2 Feb 2016 #233
LOL!! I love you! It's so great to have you back. I think I'm a masochist for coming back to this Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #264
Hey sweetie. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #295
Black voters shooting themselves in the foot LittleBlue Feb 2016 #112
Thank you for deciding what's best for us without any solicitation bravenak Feb 2016 #114
We have no problem telling southern whites they are voting against their interests LittleBlue Feb 2016 #135
You may have no problem doing so. I do. bravenak Feb 2016 #136
Their differences are different than ours LittleBlue Feb 2016 #144
How do lectures from white liberals on how we should view the world help sway anybody? bravenak Feb 2016 #147
You're all about identity politics only LittleBlue Feb 2016 #155
Identity politics means my identity which matters to me. bravenak Feb 2016 #157
Your identity matters to you, but apparently it's key in your decision process about others LittleBlue Feb 2016 #166
I don't care. bravenak Feb 2016 #167
Jury voted 1-6 to leave it Bradical79 Feb 2016 #288
Identity politics has alway matters to white people, to Asian people, to Hispanic people... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #267
This got alerted on. GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #268
Results of your Jury.... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #269
You should have a problem with that too. wildeyed Feb 2016 #192
It's racist. Keep at it and you'll be alerted. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #266
I was alerted. The frivolous alert was 0-7'd. LittleBlue Feb 2016 #277
Rather than block or alert you, I decided not to stoop to your level. Rather, Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #282
Please continue your arrogant rants against black voters. Keep at it. Then watch as Sanders' Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #265
Go right ahead LittleBlue Feb 2016 #280
I and my black brothers and sister will do whatever the fuck we want. Slavery is over! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #281
When Hillary sends her armies off to do the dirty work of Empire, just whom do you KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #113
Tactic: fear of loss, fear of future pain bravenak Feb 2016 #116
If black voters help secure the nomnation fir HRC, she will crash KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #124
Thats nice. Her opponent cannot even beat her in the primary. bravenak Feb 2016 #128
Where's Cornel West when you need him? brooklynite Feb 2016 #115
Please!! bravenak Feb 2016 #118
Only if you click your heels at the same time. n/t wildeyed Feb 2016 #196
Say it into the mirror then turn off the lights. bravenak Feb 2016 #197
Great to see you! Burlington Free Press is a great local R B Garr Feb 2016 #121
Hey!! bravenak Feb 2016 #123
Unconvincing anecdote. GeorgeGist Feb 2016 #126
Unconvincing 'revolution' bravenak Feb 2016 #131
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make em drink AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #132
Maybe the paternalism ruins the revolution bravenak Feb 2016 #133
Dropping a wrecking ball on yourself isn't a very well thought out idea AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #134
Neither is joining a revolution that treats your kind like children bravenak Feb 2016 #137
Then run with your resentments AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #152
At least I'll always have the schadenfreude. bravenak Feb 2016 #161
Ouch! Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #138
WB joshcryer Feb 2016 #154
Thank you very very much bravenak Feb 2016 #160
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #162
Yes I am hilarious. bravenak Feb 2016 #163
The hate directed at her is irrational. joshcryer Feb 2016 #164
Has that been resolved? TSIAS Feb 2016 #202
Ha! bravenak Feb 2016 #208
Welcome back! Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #158
I know, right? bravenak Feb 2016 #159
welcome back Bravenak, missed ya! steve2470 Feb 2016 #170
Thank you! bravenak Feb 2016 #171
Welcome back! wildeyed Feb 2016 #173
Thanks!! bravenak Feb 2016 #174
Looks like you are all rested up! wildeyed Feb 2016 #175
I am so sleepy and I want some snacks. bravenak Feb 2016 #180
They have new flavors now. wildeyed Feb 2016 #187
I want coconut. bravenak Feb 2016 #188
Almond Joy? wildeyed Feb 2016 #190
Mmm! bravenak Feb 2016 #191
I already have ice cream. wildeyed Feb 2016 #193
So a 75+ year old African Ameican couple from NH speaks for all... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #176
He is polling VERY POORLY among BLACKS bravenak Feb 2016 #185
Recent polling evidence? hoosierlib Feb 2016 #195
Is all over the internet bravenak Feb 2016 #198
Evidence please...not innuendo from 3 month old polls... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #199
Is your google broken? bravenak Feb 2016 #200
Nope...just asking for specific evidence to back up your assertion... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #204
He/she can start with the article you posted way up top. George II Feb 2016 #251
you don't really want to know, do you? why don't you expose yourself to islandmkl Feb 2016 #177
And she was supported the entire way by black community leaders. bravenak Feb 2016 #182
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #178
Sounds interesting. bravenak Feb 2016 #184
Can't Get Every Voter in Primary noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #181
Let me know when Bernie polls better in diverse states and I'll consider him. bravenak Feb 2016 #183
Nice to meet you noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #219
I was with him this summer!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #223
NETROOTS : A Turning Point Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #231
Hey. That was fucking brilliant. bravenak Feb 2016 #232
Thanks for sharing noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #296
I think you have some good ideas and great insight. bravenak Feb 2016 #297
Thank you noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #332
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #241
... BooScout Feb 2016 #186
I should make up some good graphics too! bravenak Feb 2016 #201
This place is fun... BooScout Feb 2016 #203
They always have so many sites to use now. bravenak Feb 2016 #205
Good to see you back here, bravenak Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #221
OMG make me go away!! Please?!?! bravenak Feb 2016 #224
Just do that! Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #228
Okay. I have my paint box in the bed and thinking about Sangria. bravenak Feb 2016 #230
Never mind, the thread that I was looking up got deleted Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #229
Look it all those hearts.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #237
Glad you came!! bravenak Feb 2016 #238
I get them rude ones here and there, FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #240
If she wins and the prisons remain full, will you be proud of your posts? nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #246
I predict that when HRC is elected first female president Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #249
Or just self delete them all. GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #270
Prisons are already full because of the Clintons. bunnies Feb 2016 #299
That is why I said remain full. Bernie has promised to take on the prison insustry as one of his Live and Learn Feb 2016 #300
We are in complete agreement. bunnies Feb 2016 #304
I thought New Hampshire didn't have any black voters? ViseGrip Feb 2016 #279
1.5% by Census. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #284
Wrong again: Live and Learn Feb 2016 #298
This is a very weak sourced article...no facts..no numbers berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #301
The Iowa numbers bear this out bravenak Feb 2016 #302
Can we have a link please.. eom berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #303
There will be no link -- Sanders lost the PoC vote by 4% in NH. Very slim (but large MoE) JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #307
Bernie won the POC vote with the youth Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #312
Wow. One minister and two from his congregation, all over 70. mhatrw Feb 2016 #310
Okay. But bernie already won. bravenak Feb 2016 #313
Yeah, they're so unconvinced that only 48% of those who voted in the Democratic primary voted SheilaT Feb 2016 #327
That was all minorities bravenak Feb 2016 #328
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #331
That's old. Exit polls yesterday showed Sanders did extremely well getting the POC vote in NH. n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #329
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