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SDJay

(1,089 posts)
32. The Best Way to Predict
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:05 PM
Feb 2016

a person's decision on the next war is to look at how he or she decided on a previous war. What's more relevant than that? It's not as if we were all duped by some really high-level and top-notch 'intelligence' obtained. There were millions of people - me included - who knew that this was an absolutely bullcrap war.

I don't know if I'm right about this or not, but it's the impression I got: She had to have known that the case for an unprovoked war was weak at best, criminal at worst. To say otherwise is to obviate all of the arguments about how highly intelligent she is. She could have taken a brave step and spoken out against the war. I got the feeling that she used this as an opportunity to bone up on her hawkish bona fides because remember, Democrats are branded wimps/doves/pacifists/whatever. It felt like a self-serving political decision instead of the right decision.

Given all of the suffering that transpired all over the world, I don't think she should be given a pass for this. Is she responsible for this war? No. But she is responsible for her voice leading up to it.

If she's faced with another decision like this one during her administration, do you really think she'll back off from a war? I don't, at least not based on what I think was her calculus for this previous decision.

So if the Wardogs whip up the people again with fake information, She will be for the next war too. virtualobserver Feb 2016 #1
and it's the fallout from the Iraq war Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #39
Has she ever met a war.... daleanime Feb 2016 #2
The war on wall street? Paulie Feb 2016 #10
Winner, winner, chicken dinner! HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #13
Boom! daleanime Feb 2016 #25
+1. n/t bvf Feb 2016 #28
Yes! Joe Nation Feb 2016 #23
"we should be making this decision based on the next war" - I think it a million times djean111 Feb 2016 #3
Cool story. frylock Feb 2016 #4
No sale Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #5
So what about good judgement do you not understand? Avalux Feb 2016 #6
Henry Kissinger. Darth Cheney's Sith Master eom mikehiggins Feb 2016 #9
I don't agree...I knew there was no real reason to invade Iraq. Why didn't she? Punkingal Feb 2016 #7
500,000 dead ? this doesn't matter to you???WOW bowens43 Feb 2016 #8
Wasn't an issue in the past was it? pinebox Feb 2016 #11
She'll get it right next time! Promise! Red Oak Feb 2016 #12
If you want a Neocon that sounds EXACTLY like Bush and Cheney MauriceLawrence96 Feb 2016 #14
Not sure... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #15
Also the 19 minute speech she made imploring others to vote with her Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #16
She has a long way to go to match Kissingers death total. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #17
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Feb 2016 #18
It's far from ridiculous casperthegm Feb 2016 #19
Oh, you were serious. SamKnause Feb 2016 #20
What's ridiculous is asserting that Iraq is some musty, irrelevant issue cali Feb 2016 #21
Yeah, but who got it right last time Broward Feb 2016 #22
The Wicked War on Syria polly7 Feb 2016 #24
Ridiuclous? Wow...yes...concern over the war and it breaking the country and all we stand for ViseGrip Feb 2016 #26
Pardon me, but your expectation is showing. bvf Feb 2016 #27
You are hiding a small lie inside a bigger lie, to wit, that "72% of KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #29
I am thinking about the future wars My Good Babushka Feb 2016 #30
Yes, when considering who will make the right decision going forward LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #31
The Best Way to Predict SDJay Feb 2016 #32
. Wilms Feb 2016 #33
The "last war" isn`t over, Joe Nation. democrank Feb 2016 #34
Yes, war has consequences Joe Nation Feb 2016 #35
I can and do blame Clinton. Maedhros Feb 2016 #40
A leader doesn't accommodate the lowest common denominator farleftlib Feb 2016 #41
Hillary had NO EXCUSE for being duped by George Bush Dems to Win Feb 2016 #36
All you should really think about is who represented you! highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #37
We are living in the aftermath of that vote!! The entire region was destabilized because of that. jillan Feb 2016 #38
Some seem to forget this fact. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #43
This is satire, right? Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #42
Do I hear a "completely agree"? Joe Nation Feb 2016 #44
the IWR wouldn't have passed without the Dems, and she led the Dem hawk charge in '02 MisterP Feb 2016 #45
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