2016 Postmortem

John Poet

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78. BERNIE WON IOWA IN A LANDSLIDE, THEN!!!!

Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:31 PM

Feb 2016

behind by only 0.2 percent, way below your 20 percent requirement here....

I do presume you're being deliberately ridiculous here,
as opposed to being unintentionally ridiculous....

Do we got wheels on those goalposts now?

Maybe you should claim that Hillary wins if she keeps it within 30 percent,
just to be safe. Nah, 40-- within 40 percent, that way you can be sure. I think.

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Hillary Clinton has been down by 30% in the NH polls. If she loses by 20%, then it is a Hillary WIN. [View all] ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 OP

Meaning you agree that by this standard, Iowa was therefore a Bernie win? villager Feb 2016 #1

Bernie Sanders said that if the turnout was over 170,000 he would win. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #12

Ah, your doesn't-hold-water caveat was at the ready. villager Feb 2016 #22

BERNIE WON IOWA IN A LANDSLIDE, THEN!!!! John Poet Feb 2016 #78

didn't you see Bern Your Enthusiasm? 6chars Feb 2016 #141

Yep catnhatnh Feb 2016 #14

Ist they say that if she loses by single digits its a win, now its a win if she loses by 20 -29%. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #178

Bless your heart Fumesucker Feb 2016 #2

On my report cards in elementary school, they would give me an A for effort :). nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #9

Home school? frylock Feb 2016 #164

+1 AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #52

LOL Wig Master Feb 2016 #3

Hillary should be winning in NH, it's her 6th time campaigning statewide there Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #4

Bernie Sanders is a favored son of NH. He is family. He should be winning at least by 30%. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #7

Then why was she up 40-50%... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #18

No one pays attention to politics back then as they do now. Right now is the moment of truth. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #29

Except you claimed Sanders was their "favored son". jeff47 Feb 2016 #41

I am just stating the facts of what I have seen from the polls. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #54

"Favored son" is not a fact. jeff47 Feb 2016 #60

I hope she "wins" every race Go Vols Feb 2016 #69

LOL - perfect. nt cyberswede Feb 2016 #190

All hogwash. NH is more influenced by Mass. than Vermont. lob1 Feb 2016 #46

Prove that. Surely you have evidence of such an outlandish claim? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #57

You are from Vermont. You should be supporting my views. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #65

Why would I support you when all you do is post hit pieces about Bernie? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #73

My evidence is the polls. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #80

The ones that showed Hillary was the favoured "daughter" last year? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #84

We are in the moment of now. What the polls are saying is that Bernie is up by nearly 30% ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #93

You're deflecting, how is Bernie the favoured son when Hillary was so far ahead last year? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #104

It is not! She said she won with a .02...now you say she will bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #106

"We are in the moment of now." frylock Feb 2016 #167

Spin and make stuff up! Rinse and repeat. cali Feb 2016 #109

Shouldn't you be listening to the Vermonter? LoveIsNow Feb 2016 #110

Live free or die is their motto 6chars Feb 2016 #144

Yep, I'm a native Vermonter, other than geography we have little in common. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #145

another vermonter has ever won nh. karynnj Feb 2016 #92

Bzzt. Just for you: cali Feb 2016 #105

Already debunked. I've lived in NH 40 years. No love lost elias49 Feb 2016 #122

as a former governor of NH, he should have a lock 6chars Feb 2016 #143

As a former governor of NH? frylock Feb 2016 #168

I assume very well done satire. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #179

Hard to ell anymore. frylock Feb 2016 #180

Born in NYC, and moved to Vermont.. frylock Feb 2016 #166

Clearly. frylock Feb 2016 #165

The social media I have been seeing itsrobert Feb 2016 #5

Ummmm.....satire, I hope? n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #6

So Sanders won Iowa? jeff47 Feb 2016 #8

Sanders's campaign said they would win Iowa if they had a turnout of over 170k. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #16

Yet you are claiming a 20% loss is a win, but a 0.2% loss is a loss. jeff47 Feb 2016 #23

I'm basing my opinions on facts. The facts say that Bernie should at least win more than 30%. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #25

"Facts" like 20% is smaller than 0.2%? jeff47 Feb 2016 #28

Thank god for the mcpick two at mcdonalds. Saves me a lot of money. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #35

Nah, you'd have me paying $200 for that. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #36

I think I'm seeing part of the issue here. frylock Feb 2016 #170

Bwahaha.you don't even know the difference between fact and opinion cali Feb 2016 #113

Link, please, I think you've mixed up facts with your opinion. lob1 Feb 2016 #152

She was up by over 50 a year ago. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #10

Our last 3 elected Presidents all lost the New Hampshire primary. randome Feb 2016 #34

Run with that. frylock Feb 2016 #171

Every Clinton delegate is a Clinton win. Orsino Feb 2016 #11

This is serious???? Coming from people who'd beat you on the head with a 0.2% win... no thank you. thereismore Feb 2016 #13

Bernie Sanders's campaign said if the turnout in Iowa was 170k, he would win. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #37

Link to 170k statement please. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #43

Link to that quote from Bernie or it's nothing but bull cali Feb 2016 #115

I finally get it. This is Third Way Manny level stuff. LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #15

I'd ask my doctor about that. n/t Wilms Feb 2016 #17

I have a clean bill of health. Ok, I lied, my blood pressure is a bit up, but I am healthy. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #39

baloney; that poll was an outlier. half a dozen other respected polls had Bernie up 10-15% in the magical thyme Feb 2016 #19

Can you stop spinning the facts. They have been multiple of polls that had Sanders's leading ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #44

Actually... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #88

Link. It's not like I have any reason to simply take your word for it cali Feb 2016 #116

multiple = 2: CNN/WMUR & Lowel 7/UMass. 7 other pollsters range +7 to +16 magical thyme Feb 2016 #133

Am I on Star Trek? What freakin' parallel universe did I enter between the IA and NH primaries? nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #20

Even if Bernie wins by 25, they still wont shut up. It is what it is:) litlbilly Feb 2016 #40

Bernie Sander's campaign said that is Iowa's turnout was above 170K, they would win. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #45

Link. cali Feb 2016 #118

Link? Proof? Dawgs Feb 2016 #120

What a lovely spin, almost as good sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #21

Oh my Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #24

This is sarcasm, yes? thucythucy Feb 2016 #26

I am just stating the facts. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #48

If not sarcasm, then maybe performance art? thucythucy Feb 2016 #49

It's not quite up to Random Thoughts level. He'll never get beer and travel money at this rate. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #68

If you lose, Go Vols Feb 2016 #90

i am pretty sure you're right. 6chars Feb 2016 #146

Lol. Iowa margin of +.05% = win nt lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #27

.25 cali Feb 2016 #119

It doesn't work that way. morningfog Feb 2016 #30

Drunk? Nt Logical Feb 2016 #31

Yeah, that Hillary Clinton., choie Feb 2016 #32

Delusional. Utter nonsense. closeupready Feb 2016 #33

Okidoki, if you say so. wow can you guys get any funnier? litlbilly Feb 2016 #38

It's performance art. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #66

Funnier by the day! Matariki Feb 2016 #42

At the least she should get a participation trophy. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #47

This is how Sanders surrogates do Primary math, so why not. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #50

The op is a Hillary supporter so I guess that means it's how you guys do math. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #55

I think it's pretty obvious from my reply that I'm aware of that. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #58

Then why bring up Bernie supporters? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #63

Nope. Bernie supporters may say that a .25 margin is cali Feb 2016 #123

So if Hillary loses the primary by 30% of the delegates, does she still win? Jarqui Feb 2016 #51

I don't think any Democrat has won NH by more than 17% leftupnorth Feb 2016 #53

So, a 20 point lead by Bernie would not only be a massive win, it would be HISTORIC? n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #140

Yup! leftupnorth Feb 2016 #148

What a moronic viewpoint. Wasted space. nm floriduck Feb 2016 #56

Bwahaha. Priceless to see the desperate spinning. Love, cali Feb 2016 #59

cali, you of all people should be supporting my view. You are from Vermont. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #70

Killing a bullshit Clinton meme: Bernie Sanders Is No Favorite Son cali Feb 2016 #74

Can you give me a TLDR? nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #81

If Bernie Wins NH, it will be despite his coming from VT, not because of it cali Feb 2016 #76

Can you give me a TLDR. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #82

I don't know. What is it? cali Feb 2016 #89

It means basically if you could summarize your post in a sentence or two. It's from reddit. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #96

I didn't realize you had problems reading cali Feb 2016 #126

Allow me.. frylock Feb 2016 #172

it's an acronym for Too Long Didn't Read. m-lekktor Feb 2016 #107

Whether it's by .2% or 20% a loss is still a loss. nt JeffHead Feb 2016 #61

Bernie's campaign said that if the turnout in Iowa was 170k, he would win. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #71

Link to your claim. cali Feb 2016 #129

But Hillary winning by .02% (.0002 margin) Aerows Feb 2016 #62

Bernie's campaign said that if the turnout in Iowa was 170k, he would win. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #72

You're repeating yourself ad nauseum... k8conant Feb 2016 #103

People are asking and making the same points over and over. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #111

NOT that I've seen.. k8conant Feb 2016 #121

Several people, including me, want to see a link to your lob1 Feb 2016 #161

You're incapable of substantiating your "facts" frylock Feb 2016 #173

Post a link to your claim. Now. cali Feb 2016 #130

So what do you think about Aerows Feb 2016 #184

The star known as Sol will come up tomorrow... HILLARY WINS! cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #64

Hilly lost a 40 point lead there cali Feb 2016 #67

We are living in the moment of now. The polls have Bernie up by nearly 30% ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #75

Deflect. Spin. Deflect. Spin. Rinse and repeat ad nauseam. cali Feb 2016 #94

cali, can you at least agree with me that Bernie is expected to win NH comfortably? nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #102

Looking for the sarcasm tag. OH CRAP! YOU'RE SERIOUS! R. P. McMurphy Feb 2016 #77

This is satire, right? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #79

You're right! MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #147

Ignore this comment senz Feb 2016 #149

Did I do a "no-no"? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #154

It's okay, they deleted the OP senz Feb 2016 #156

Irony and self-awareness are just lost on you guys, aren't they? Kall Feb 2016 #83

If Bernie Wins NH, it will be despite his coming from VT, not because of it cali Feb 2016 #85

LOL, I thought of preparing a response to this, and then I thought-- TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #86

forum question LAS14 Feb 2016 #87

n/t or nt means "no text." It is so you don't have to open the post and can just read the subject FSogol Feb 2016 #99

its supposed to mean "no text" Go Vols Feb 2016 #117

you think the average SC or NV voter is paying attention to every single NH poll? LSK Feb 2016 #91

Beyond ridiculous! Punkingal Feb 2016 #95

Keep dreamin' InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #97

Then the Panthers must have won the Super Bowl The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #98

Bwahaha. Nearly 100 responses and one lonely rec. cali Feb 2016 #100

I usually don't rec my own threads. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #108

Here are the facts. I have two recs. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #114

Ooh. When I posted, you had one. Your parody thread is much cali Feb 2016 #135

New Hampshire is not friendly ground for someone from Vermont Bad Thoughts Feb 2016 #101

The hill folk have flipped thier lids... bowens43 Feb 2016 #112

Lol. Just listen to yourself. pa28 Feb 2016 #124

Uuuuh Press Virginia Feb 2016 #125

Don't feed this person SheenaR Feb 2016 #127

People are saying that I am just repeating myself, so this will be the last post I make ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #128

1 poll SheenaR Feb 2016 #150

In bizarro land .. TBF Feb 2016 #131

Did her campaign direct you to post this. RDANGELO Feb 2016 #132

And unicorns are real, too. HERVEPA Feb 2016 #134

Hillary spin wouldn't fool a 4th grader! ViseGrip Feb 2016 #136

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #137

So let me get this straight... ljm2002 Feb 2016 #138

lol...I've seen some spinning but now a double digit loss is a victory? EndElectoral Feb 2016 #139

When that "Hillary up by 30%" poll came out, I was jubilant, but others were saying 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #142

Here's a poll with her at 74% in NH jfern Feb 2016 #151

And if Sanders wins by just 10%, seppuku would be the only honorable option mhatrw Feb 2016 #153

I just had to come back to this thread, it's such a hoot. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #155

ridiculous dana_b Feb 2016 #157

So I Guess Jim Webb SDJay Feb 2016 #158

Gee, Bernie was down by 33% in Iowa Lorien Feb 2016 #159

Maybe Dewey really did defeat Truman. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #160

Just bring on the more diverse states, please. IA and NH are not representative... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #162

Today in batshit crazy land... frylock Feb 2016 #163

Bernie was down in Iowa by 30%, so what is his losing by 0.25%? n/t Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #169

win by losing. thats the dncs motto now right? elehhhhna Feb 2016 #174

Sigh. And now we enter the realm of everybody is silly. bravenak Feb 2016 #175

Not really. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #176

Logic is not on your side. seaotter Feb 2016 #177

Hillary led New Hampshire by 5% in December 2015 and started with a 40+% lead hoosierlib Feb 2016 #181

by that logic Bernie won in Iowa lame54 Feb 2016 #182

It's looking like Clinton cannot even pull that off. *Win-by-losing-only-20%*!!! JimDandy Feb 2016 #183

Kicking for the lulz frylock Feb 2016 #185

No, the stinging loss is Hillary getting WHUPPED... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #186

Well, even by your ridiculous metric-- HILLARY LOSES. John Poet Feb 2016 #187

I had written off IA and NH. Beacool Feb 2016 #188

What a joke. Fearless Feb 2016 #189