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2016 Postmortem

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farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
21. I fear that sanity only prevailed in Obama's case
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:54 PM
Feb 2016

because the party could afford to be magnanimous - he was another establishment dem. With Bernie, I fear, that premise falls apart. They're in the same place Hillary is with the Goldman Sachs transcripts, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't.

If Bernie wins and tries to throw the moneylenders out of the temple, they're screwed. Otoh, If the party establishment totally subverts democracy to prevent that from happening, they're doomed.

I see something coming down the road, something along the lines of

The system is rigged [View all] Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #1
just another thing to do during the revolution SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #2
K&R nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #3
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #4
A popular choice like McGovern -- who lost 49 states. A lot of good he did. nt pnwmom Feb 2016 #5
Yes, what a fair election, running against mdbl Feb 2016 #8
Well, there is Mondale, Carter (2nd), and Dukakis. Hoyt Feb 2016 #10
I guess there's just no room for decent politicians then mdbl Feb 2016 #12
I believe the most apt analogy is Reagan or FDR. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #13
Well, FDR was a rich man who was not particularly progressive when taking office. Hoyt Feb 2016 #15
Actually he ran on a progressive record Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #17
I do believe the McGovern analogy is inapt. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #11
I think you might be missing an important point tech3149 Feb 2016 #16
Excellent point. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #18
McGovern was an effective campaigner in the PRIMARIES. It was the general where pnwmom Feb 2016 #20
I have a different take. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #27
To Adm Loinpresser and pnwmom Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #28
See post 28 ^^^ Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #29
The most nonsensical part is that they're allowed to come out and openly Chakab Feb 2016 #6
And I've seen them hopeful that turnout will be low. Wilms Feb 2016 #9
The Superdelegates will switch if Bernie keeps winning Onlooker Feb 2016 #7
That's right. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #14
I fear that sanity only prevailed in Obama's case farleftlib Feb 2016 #21
K&R We live in the most reality shareholders will allow. nt raouldukelives Feb 2016 #19
Is the term "Democratic" party false advertising? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #22
That thought began ocurring to me during the Clinton Administration Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #24
..+1 840high Feb 2016 #26
Just ignore the Super Delegates! The Corrupt Corporate Owned MSM is using them to PROP UP CLINTON! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #23
Superdelgates need to be watched carefully starting now Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #25
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