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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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126. I kept hearing about the firewall and loyalty to Clintons stuff and couldn't accept it
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:13 PM
Feb 2016

The first thing I found was Michelle Alexander's article, which details the devastation the Clintons have wrought on the black community. She writes that Hillary doesn't deserve the black vote. I've also read that blacks feel like they are being taken for granted and find it insulting; I'm sure they do!

But word is, Bernie is like a professor with abstract ideas and doesn't give specific responses to their very specific questions and needs. You can't say, "My policies will lift all boats." They want specifics and detail, and Bernie isn't delivering it. Further, the polls are what they are and not budging.

I liken it to Rahm Emanuel's re-election. I had to know the demographics. Believe it or not, poor blacks voted overwhelmingly for Rahm. An article explained that black leadership (establishment) failed its constituents and re-elected Obama's mayor. Since I've seen it with my own eyes, I'm more inclined to believe the narrative that Hillary will win the primary because the black vote will carry her.

Of course, hoping I'm wrong. However, I think 60% or more of the delegates will be decided by Super Tuesday.

That's exactly why the Hillary campaign is Swift Boating Sanders now. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #1
Precisely and what is sad pinebox Feb 2016 #4
Hillary views facts as a sign of weakness. Facts get in the way of her agenda. JRLeft Feb 2016 #15
The Cruz ad is pretty nasty senz Feb 2016 #24
Dear god I cant believe you are lumping Hillary in with Cruz Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #51
She's a Republican but Cruz is destructive. JRLeft Feb 2016 #54
If you think she is a republican, you clearly dont know anything about this election. Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #62
She's a Republican it shows you how far the party has moved to the right. JRLeft Feb 2016 #64
If you think that she's a Democrat RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #66
In a way you are correct. The only qualifications needed to call ones self a Democrat is rhett o rick Feb 2016 #87
Cruz also acts and looks like he is out of his mind. He'll never make it. nt Enthusiast Feb 2016 #75
It's an act Cruz is really intelligent, but he had to pretend to be crazy to win as a tea party JRLeft Feb 2016 #80
The act is convincing. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #82
I don't agree with him politically, he's in this for the money and the power. JRLeft Feb 2016 #83
It is. Qutzupalotl Feb 2016 #92
That's what we said in TX... SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #90
Take a little time to ponder the meaning of the word "or." senz Feb 2016 #84
I wish life could be a Van Morrison song....would be so much easier. Love Van. Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #85
So true, thanks for articulating so well. john978 Feb 2016 #68
"If Hillar wants to play dirty..." You apparently missed this post here from yesterday: (see link) Cal33 Feb 2016 #55
All of us here knows she lies. Duckfan Feb 2016 #107
Well, I visited your link and chervilant Feb 2016 #114
She can't raise her own numbers so she plans to drag his down to her level. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #44
Looks like it. If she can't have it maybe Donald or Cruz can. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #76
The Dems are well versed in operating as a minority party. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #81
They are employing the same failed strategy they used against Obama. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #74
And that's what the Rs plan to do to her WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #103
Bernie doesn't need to use it. chervilant Feb 2016 #116
This is problem that she can't fix, IMO. Punkingal Feb 2016 #2
You are 100% correct pinebox Feb 2016 #6
And it shows the Y-uuuge flaw in her campaign. earthside Feb 2016 #20
And if you remember the Washington Post story in the Bernie Group Duckfan Feb 2016 #108
Yeah but in Hillary's defense Yupster Feb 2016 #45
LOL.... Punkingal Feb 2016 #49
She is caught. earthside Feb 2016 #120
So this is the one? JTFrog Feb 2016 #3
THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT! randome Feb 2016 #22
continue to mock. we shall continue to win roguevalley Feb 2016 #23
Go ahead and win! See if I care! (Seriously, I don't care who the nominee is.) randome Feb 2016 #25
She's not a democrat Kittycat Feb 2016 #29
Damn good analogy Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #41
^^ bingo ^^ Kittycat Feb 2016 #52
Try and tell that to the Hillary supporters... Paka Feb 2016 #113
You really do appear to care despite your protestations. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #34
Wrong side of the bed dpatbrown Feb 2016 #37
Emails and Benghazi ARE issues. 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #67
Only to right wingers. n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #98
Many people care. 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #112
Ok, you, Trey Gowdy and the rest of the GOP care JTFrog Feb 2016 #118
Not caring about the deaths of innocent civilians does not make you cool. 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #124
Did you just sign up to push Trey Gowdy's lies here? JTFrog Feb 2016 #125
What's the matter, Frog? chervilant Feb 2016 #117
Her campaign is into Swift Boating Bernie over his civil rights work in the early 60's. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #5
True and thank God for Belafonte pinebox Feb 2016 #7
Yes!!! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #12
and amborin Feb 2016 #27
Right out of Rove's playbook. LibDemAlways Feb 2016 #32
yes, totally agree amborin Feb 2016 #33
Could Bernie supporters form their own superpac? senz Feb 2016 #46
great thought! amborin Feb 2016 #70
great idea questionseverything Feb 2016 #88
A PeoplePAC. Qutzupalotl Feb 2016 #91
Recorrect the record SwampG8r Feb 2016 #115
And ask for Wall Street speech transcripts! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #42
On that one you know that she'll continue to duck and dodge with LibDemAlways Feb 2016 #60
That's where Bernie's non-attack strategy suffers the most. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #71
thanks to Matt Taibbi and Politico, we know what she said to Goldman Sachs grasswire Feb 2016 #106
Yes, but the more she refuses to show them, lob1 Feb 2016 #111
Lewis is getting hammered on AA's for Bernie on Facebook noiretextatique Feb 2016 #93
And that, in my opinion, is with NO disrespect to Hillary. Just that, given the two options, Hiraeth Feb 2016 #8
Precisely. It is what it is pinebox Feb 2016 #10
And that is all we need it to be. Think of all the people who jwirr Feb 2016 #36
un fixable Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #9
It's pretty hard when you've done things like this pinebox Feb 2016 #11
Why everybody trusts people who vacation with war criminals! Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #13
Why anybody calls her progressive when she voted for a border fence pinebox Feb 2016 #14
That needs to be run as a non-stop ad in Nevada. Not doing so would be malpractice . Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #16
Yup it sure does and there's more out there pinebox Feb 2016 #17
That is so, so, so icky. senz Feb 2016 #50
Kick (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #19
That's a joke, right? NJCher Feb 2016 #58
Not a joke dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #86
Don't trust her at all bigwillq Feb 2016 #18
Same here pinebox Feb 2016 #21
Ok. n/t zappaman Feb 2016 #26
I certainly don't trust her. But I didn't think she would Duval Feb 2016 #28
Listening to Cornel West last night, kiva Feb 2016 #30
Why? JTFrog Feb 2016 #38
Sorry, didn't know he was under the bus. kiva Feb 2016 #94
He's not so much under the bus as much as he has jumped the shark. JTFrog Feb 2016 #96
But they should also poll "weaseliness" Helen Borg Feb 2016 #31
+1 draa Feb 2016 #35
Pffft! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #77
hahahah, Clearly far left ABC is biased for Sanders :-) whereisjustice Feb 2016 #39
This video shows how shes changed her mind every time the political wind blows Khellendross Feb 2016 #40
Bookmarking for flip-flops and distortions. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #105
And the main reason UglyGreed Feb 2016 #43
and those 6% misunderstood the question. n/t Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #47
+1 whereisjustice Feb 2016 #69
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #79
Every Attack By "The Establishment" Blows Up In Their Face scottie55 Feb 2016 #48
Bookmarking for the night that Sanders concedes. George II Feb 2016 #53
You too??? geologic Feb 2016 #100
Love this poll. Sander will be the nominee. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #56
That's why Clinton will never, ever be president. She may super delegate her way to the nomination Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #57
As one who is still undecided Zambero Feb 2016 #61
Super delegates can flip. Hillary built up a big super delegate lead over Obama in 2008, but many Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #63
exactly on all counts; and someone posted a longer explanation the other day; can't find it now; but amborin Feb 2016 #95
I don't *think* they'd do that. JoeyT Feb 2016 #109
Good point, AiT senz Feb 2016 #89
plus the whole "Carly Fiorina crossed with the Fairy Godmother" attitude to her lessers MisterP Feb 2016 #59
You got dat right! RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #65
Delusion Comes in All Stripes peggysue2 Feb 2016 #72
Tested and approved... geologic Feb 2016 #101
Damned hippies! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #73
From your keyboard to America's voting booths. merrily Feb 2016 #78
K&R! Carolina Feb 2016 #97
The exit poll sample is of 33% of voters in the NH Dem primary, which allowed Indies to crossover. ucrdem Feb 2016 #99
Yep, it's it's New Hamsha alright... geologic Feb 2016 #102
Yeah, you hold on tightly to that, pinebox. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #104
Unfortunately, that's not universal WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #110
Actually check this pinebox Feb 2016 #121
I kept hearing about the firewall and loyalty to Clintons stuff and couldn't accept it WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #126
Does this mean that 84% of Hillary supporters don't care about honesty? debunction.junction Feb 2016 #119
Many don't pinebox Feb 2016 #122
It could mean that they view ALL politicians as dishonest. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #123
that's because of republican lies - which they admited they were going to spend our money (yours too MariaThinks Feb 2016 #127
These aren't Republican lies. This is her voting record. pinebox Feb 2016 #128
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