2016 Postmortem

bravenak

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181. Bernie refuses to discuss it on its own

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:36 PM

Feb 2016

He adds in his economic adjustments and goes straight to poverty. We are not all poor. What about the rest of us? She understands better.

Rather deal with the one who wont tell me that my real problem is money.

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Can I have a list of Bernie's Pro POC legislation? [View all] bravenak Feb 2016 OP

According to African Americans in Vermont, he hasn't been fighting for black people: Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #1

Wow! It sounds like they feel neglected bravenak Feb 2016 #3

Perhaps you could compare it to the Clinton's prison for profit schemes. 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #74

Or not since this is about Bernie bravenak Feb 2016 #75

Yes quickly dismiss any Clinton criticism. Red Knight Feb 2016 #321

His record is from a long time ago before i was born bravenak Feb 2016 #322

Not taking the bait Red Knight Feb 2016 #325

Ominous. bravenak Feb 2016 #327

. Red Knight Feb 2016 #328

Here is a list... mariawr Feb 2016 #330

Thats an article on his record not legislation he wrote or had written. bravenak Feb 2016 #331

I'll deviate off topic for a second to address this - Bernie Sanders voted for the.... George II Feb 2016 #195

Just a reminder UglyGreed Feb 2016 #151

Another reminder, the overseas conglomerate that Ben and Jerry, a couple of Sanders'..... George II Feb 2016 #201

Sold up but not sold out, Ben and Jerry are still the poster boys for fair trade UglyGreed Feb 2016 #223

You had that ready to go? With formating and everything? In less than one minute?? Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #236

It was the number two best answer on this thread bravenak Feb 2016 #239

Posted within 60 seconds of thread creation...which is just....awesome! Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #240

Cali-Democrat has a quick mind and quicker fingers bravenak Feb 2016 #242

It's a magic post! Cali_Dem was able to read your thread, cross reference this article in his/her... Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #247

A truly exceptional poster bravenak Feb 2016 #249

Unless... Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #251

. bravenak Feb 2016 #253

Hmmmmmm.... mariawr Feb 2016 #333

Thank you! Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #257

You're welcome!! bravenak Feb 2016 #259

I posted the article earlier and had my post open in another tab. This is so fucking funny. Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #272

Lol +1 to you Krytan11c Feb 2016 #243

They coordinate their attacks on another website before launching them here. Electric Monk Feb 2016 #255

I have never posted on that website before. Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #261

Good catch Red Knight Feb 2016 #323

We were told for months there were no AAs in Vermont AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #277

Well you went over your four paragraph limit, so you should have kept on going passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #283

Give me an example of Pro POC legislation. What does that look like? virtualobserver Feb 2016 #2

Affirmative action is pro poc and women bravenak Feb 2016 #4

but not specifically Pro POC virtualobserver Feb 2016 #5

What has he done? bravenak Feb 2016 #6

He worked on issues that helped Veterans and the elderly.... virtualobserver Feb 2016 #36

I really am asking for legislation passed or not passed bravenak Feb 2016 #37

What racial disparities? TeddyR Feb 2016 #136

John Kennedy passed an executive order in 1961 which dealt ladjf Feb 2016 #209

There is a reason bravenak Feb 2016 #212

Yours is a beautifully expressed sentence. ladjf Feb 2016 #256

Thank you very much bravenak Feb 2016 #266

Here's a link noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #7

Oh god no, just the poc legislation please bravenak Feb 2016 #8

You should be willing to do your own research if you have a question like this. HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #10

I tried but it was alot of amendments I ended up getting bravenak Feb 2016 #12

Here's what I could find... HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #86

I will look through them when i get back from errands bravenak Feb 2016 #91

These are great efforts, but they are not targeted to POCs Empowerer Feb 2016 #128

A few of those bills... HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #149

Thank you very informative. ALBliberal Feb 2016 #190

These bills referred to "minorities," but they do not directly benefit minorities - Empowerer Feb 2016 #185

Well angrychair Feb 2016 #281

Good Lord - you're really stretching here, aren't you? Empowerer Feb 2016 #284

None of those things "count" because they help everyone equally jack_krass Feb 2016 #244

So i assume then angrychair Feb 2016 #17

Oh I'm sorry. This is about BERNIE bravenak Feb 2016 #23

and you would never crash a thread to change the subject tk2kewl Feb 2016 #47

I am just going to stick to the subject today bravenak Feb 2016 #55

you are really something else tk2kewl Feb 2016 #59

You would bravenak Feb 2016 #62

Sorry bravenak noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #43

I just looked again bravenak Feb 2016 #44

If hypothetically you supported bernie except for this Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #139

See it from the pov of folks who always fight the good fight then get ripped off bravenak Feb 2016 #150

Racial disparity isn't important to most politicians. So don't expect changes. JRLeft Feb 2016 #173

They better expect it to get loud. The USA is not going backwards. bravenak Feb 2016 #178

Agreed JRLeft Feb 2016 #180

sanders has addressed this redruddyred Feb 2016 #306

It is because of liberal flight from minority heavy districts that the tax base shrank bravenak Feb 2016 #307

dyou think it was just liberals tho redruddyred Feb 2016 #308

Racism is why they think we don't have money bravenak Feb 2016 #309

statistics bear this out too redruddyred Feb 2016 #310

This is why you cannot get us bravenak Feb 2016 #312

why would i be discussing with you if i thought i knew better redruddyred Feb 2016 #314

Because our foundations of belief are opposed in many ways bravenak Feb 2016 #315

come to new england sometime redruddyred Feb 2016 #316

I am not actually a one issue voter bravenak Feb 2016 #317

it was rhetorical redruddyred Feb 2016 #329

Someone sent an alert on your OP Lisa D Feb 2016 #9

Why? We should be able to ask about legislation. bravenak Feb 2016 #11

There's absolutely nothing wrong with your post. Lisa D Feb 2016 #13

Omg, waht? Wow, thanks. bravenak Feb 2016 #15

Jury results: Lisa D Feb 2016 #89

Thank you bravenak Feb 2016 #93

OH MY GOD! MrWendel Feb 2016 #67

Well they did leave it. wildeyed Feb 2016 #124

2 people voted to hide... one_voice Feb 2016 #172

They are mad about a thing! wildeyed Feb 2016 #193

Now that is some serious wildeyed Feb 2016 #122

This should be sent out hourly. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #138

Can I have Hillarys? Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #14

Maybe post an op bravenak Feb 2016 #16

Double fuckin standard and hypocritical. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #90

Not really bravenak Feb 2016 #95

No. Fucking really. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #97

Naw bravenak Feb 2016 #103

Yeah. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #107

Nein bravenak Feb 2016 #109

We can keep going back and forth but I know berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #120

I am my own heroine bravenak Feb 2016 #125

Good for you. But your champion should take a remedial course... berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #129

Tell her then bravenak Feb 2016 #132

Wow. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #133

I found her "abortion" vote record beedle Feb 2016 #76

Sanders fighting for black voters purged from voting rolls: HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #18

I asked for legislation as that is his job bravenak Feb 2016 #20

His job is not simply legislation. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #130

I know the votes already. This is about POC SPECIFIC legislation he pushed himself bravenak Feb 2016 #134

He was one of two senators TeddyR Feb 2016 #147

Then how is he a fighter for poc? I do not get it. bravenak Feb 2016 #153

I'm not claiming he is TeddyR Feb 2016 #159

The deflection to hillary does not work with me. This is about Bernie bravenak Feb 2016 #164

She was being sponsored by CCA an the Geo Group to find accomodations for people of all GoneFishin Feb 2016 #34

she was busy telling us to bring them to heel nt grasswire Feb 2016 #137

Bernie showing up at ONE meeting, while it's a good thing, is NOT the stuff of which civil rights Empowerer Feb 2016 #140

. bravenak Feb 2016 #170

There isnt any. He has only had three proposals become law, and only 6 pass the chamber in 25 years Lucinda Feb 2016 #19

Oh no! bravenak Feb 2016 #22

Interesting. He's been in Congress since January 1991, that's 25 years. So... George II Feb 2016 #42

He does work on others stuff as a co-sponsored a lot, but his own legislation? Not much. Lucinda Feb 2016 #68

Here it is: George II Feb 2016 #21

Impressive bravenak Feb 2016 #24

Just curious SheenaR Feb 2016 #25

No bravenak Feb 2016 #26

Thanks SheenaR Feb 2016 #28

The answer is the same for both bravenak Feb 2016 #30

That second question a no. Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #145

Nobody does bravenak Feb 2016 #154

Ok but then again Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #174

Bernie refuses to discuss it on its own bravenak Feb 2016 #181

I don't understand how you extract that she understands Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #199

Look at who she hires and raises money for bravenak Feb 2016 #203

can you see how voting like this might feed the paranoia of the trump "white man is oppressed" crowd redruddyred Feb 2016 #338

Employment & Affirmative Action Voting records beedle Feb 2016 #27

He WROTE THOSE? That was the question bravenak Feb 2016 #29

You mean 'sponsored'? beedle Feb 2016 #38

Things he WROTE bravenak Feb 2016 #41

"thank you" would be the proper response beedle Feb 2016 #50

Lead sponsor then bravenak Feb 2016 #56

Same as Hillary's record then beedle Feb 2016 #106

Good job, gold medal for you bravenak Feb 2016 #112

Don't like the truth exposed by contrasting their records, disingenuous at best Dragonfli Feb 2016 #58

I like to stick to the subject if I write the op bravenak Feb 2016 #63

A subject designed to be disingenuous, yeah, I get that. After all it is not knowledge or truth you Dragonfli Feb 2016 #80

Anger over my chosen subject is normal bravenak Feb 2016 #83

So is your refusal to look at the evience posted above that really does answer the substance Dragonfli Feb 2016 #99

No one can give an answer so they are very angry bravenak Feb 2016 #102

You've received several relevant answers, your intention is to accept no answers at all Dragonfli Feb 2016 #115

They were not poc specific bravenak Feb 2016 #135

List of anything Hillary wrote and got passed that was not ceremonial? merrily Feb 2016 #31

This is about BERNIE bravenak Feb 2016 #32

Um, no. This is about a primary in which we must choose between Hillary and Bernie, not some merrily Feb 2016 #39

My OP is about BERNIE bravenak Feb 2016 #40

Yes, I know. My post already covered that. merrily Feb 2016 #45

Do what u do bravenak Feb 2016 #49

Fortunately, I need no one's permission to post what I wish to post. Thanks anyway. merrily Feb 2016 #51

Post as you please bravenak Feb 2016 #54

Superfluous. Please see Reply 51. merrily Feb 2016 #61

Refer to reply 54 bravenak Feb 2016 #64

I guess some don't care 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #78

I am still waiting for his pro poc legislation bravenak Feb 2016 #84

And I believe that it was sduggested that you look it up yourself but it was too much to go through. 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #96

I did but I do not see the fighting bravenak Feb 2016 #104

I think the correct question should be NWCorona Feb 2016 #33

No. I asked the CORRECT QUESTION bravenak Feb 2016 #35

IMO, you asked a highly misleading question. merrily Feb 2016 #46

I asked what I wanted info on bravenak Feb 2016 #48

I know. And it was a misleading request, IMO, which, if followed as you wish, would have made the merrily Feb 2016 #148

Wonderful. Answer or not as you please. bravenak Feb 2016 #155

That is the question you asked NWCorona Feb 2016 #246

Then he is not our champion bravenak Feb 2016 #250

What do you mean by "our"? NWCorona Feb 2016 #291

The ones described in my opening post bravenak Feb 2016 #294

Assuming you mean black people. NWCorona Feb 2016 #295

Hillary has bravenak Feb 2016 #297

True and credit given but.... NWCorona Feb 2016 #299

There have been times when each have failed bravenak Feb 2016 #300

Agreed and I think he's proven he can take the pressure. NWCorona Feb 2016 #302

He should hire more black, it will help him bravenak Feb 2016 #303

I should also note that I am black NWCorona Feb 2016 #296

Thank you. Nice to meet u bravenak Feb 2016 #298

Same! NWCorona Feb 2016 #301

Voting is nice, but that's not leading. Empowerer Feb 2016 #144

Big banks! Wall Street! nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #52

Oligarchy! Billionaires!! bravenak Feb 2016 #57

ESTABLISHMENT! Empowerer Feb 2016 #146

Short example of Bills angrychair Feb 2016 #53

Okay, those are great bravenak Feb 2016 #60

Moving the goal post angrychair Feb 2016 #77

I want exclusive to bringing poc up to your level bravenak Feb 2016 #82

I gave that to you angrychair Feb 2016 #118

what do you mean by... grasswire Feb 2016 #143

Bring them to parity bravenak Feb 2016 #165

in what respect? nt grasswire Feb 2016 #166

Sociologically. Tired of being the other. Underclass. bravenak Feb 2016 #168

That's income equality, not sociology. Isn't it? nt grasswire Feb 2016 #171

No. bravenak Feb 2016 #175

isn't that legislating morality? grasswire Feb 2016 #207

Affirmative action bravenak Feb 2016 #219

what do you think of this article? grasswire Feb 2016 #280

It's a great explanation of the connections between certain injustices that are leveled at blacks. bravenak Feb 2016 #282

Let me try to explain Empowerer Feb 2016 #202

on that line of argument, would you assert that voter id laws are not racist redruddyred Feb 2016 #340

I never knew POC didn't have teeth or need dental care Armstead Feb 2016 #79

The op says pro poc leg bravenak Feb 2016 #81

Cornel West thinks Bernie's policies will benefit POC more than HRC's... Yurovsky Feb 2016 #65

Cornel lost his relevance in our community bravenak Feb 2016 #66

I really don't think you speak for your community. 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #85

In the black community he lost relevance bravenak Feb 2016 #88

How should I word that? 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #98

However you please bravenak Feb 2016 #108

Interesting.... TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #116

Cornel West?!?!? MrWendel Feb 2016 #73

He knows how to call Americas first black president "n-word-izzed"... come back uponit7771 Feb 2016 #264

It isn't hard to find. Csainvestor Feb 2016 #69

That show no legislation written just records votes bravenak Feb 2016 #71

Nope.....Life's too short Armstead Feb 2016 #70

Fine with me bravenak Feb 2016 #72

I promise to get that for you... 99Forever Feb 2016 #87

Hey, knock it off!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #111

You've already stated you'll never vote for him. Trolling mean Bernie Bros Arazi Feb 2016 #92

Are you done? bravenak Feb 2016 #100

Nope, just making sure everybody knows the story Arazi Feb 2016 #117

If we say you've convinced us Bernie sucks with and for POC whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #94

Stop what? Asking questions? No. bravenak Feb 2016 #105

As anyone can see, they're rhetorical questions whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #113

Yeah ok bravenak Feb 2016 #114

Can I have a list of Hillary's Pro POC legislation? Odin2005 Feb 2016 #101

Try writing an op bravenak Feb 2016 #110

Well, he voted for Clinton's crime bill. mhatrw Feb 2016 #119

Welfare is not a poc bill bravenak Feb 2016 #126

link? bunnies Feb 2016 #229

It's common knowledge Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #271

I could not figure out why I needed a link bravenak Feb 2016 #274

I thought it was common knowledge Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #276

Contributes to stereotypes bravenak Feb 2016 #278

Thanks. bunnies Feb 2016 #304

This message was self-deleted by its author mhatrw Feb 2016 #286

You realize I hope, you are in grave danger of being declared a heretic. Bill USA Feb 2016 #121

Lol!! I have been a heretic since July. bravenak Feb 2016 #127

Hang in there. Bill USA Feb 2016 #141

You too bravenak Feb 2016 #142

The google app is very easy to download & only takes a second. Do your own dang homework. jillan Feb 2016 #123

I did. Nothing comes up for us specifically. No bills. bravenak Feb 2016 #131

No, however, here is an interesting post guillaumeb Feb 2016 #152

Thank you bravenak Feb 2016 #156

Eternity is waiting for all the ads to load so I can actually read the article. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #161

I use ad block cause I just got so tired of the ads. bravenak Feb 2016 #163

Very perceptive article. ucrdem Feb 2016 #167

Yep. They make up reasons sometimes in academia. bravenak Feb 2016 #169

It's all right here in this 3 minute video ucrdem Feb 2016 #157

You made me drop my ipad. bravenak Feb 2016 #158

You know, Bernie often has the same effect on me ucrdem Feb 2016 #160

I can see why! bravenak Feb 2016 #162

Can I have a list of Hillary's pro POC legislation, since you are obvs researching this? JudyM Feb 2016 #176

Try starting a thread bravenak Feb 2016 #182

That's your specialty. Why not simply answer my question? If you are comparing his to hers, show JudyM Feb 2016 #187

This op is about BERNIE and it was ME asking the question bravenak Feb 2016 #192

I heard u the first time. Try reading what I wrote and see if you can respond. JudyM Feb 2016 #197

I am only discussing Bernie and what legislation he proposed specific to poc bravenak Feb 2016 #200

As I thought. No substance whatsoever, just flame bait. JudyM Feb 2016 #204

Good questions. lovemydog Feb 2016 #177

Damn straight! bravenak Feb 2016 #186

Very well-said. lovemydog Feb 2016 #213

Oh heck no! bravenak Feb 2016 #214

I found it on CNN live. lovemydog Feb 2016 #232

Ew! He is crazy! bravenak Feb 2016 #235

He's extremely conservative. lovemydog Feb 2016 #254

Marco Rubio is getting on my NERVES!!!!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #285

I haven't watched him tonight. lovemydog Feb 2016 #287

GCI cable did not want to pay AMC bravenak Feb 2016 #288

Yeah, first season is on netflix. lovemydog Feb 2016 #289

I guess I'll wait. bravenak Feb 2016 #290

There are plenty of resources on the internet you could use to find them Perogie Feb 2016 #179

They do not exist bravenak Feb 2016 #184

We get it. You don't like him Perogie Feb 2016 #188

Why should I? He's a politician bravenak Feb 2016 #194

really, I get it. you don't like him. Perogie Feb 2016 #198

Seems like a fair question Mike__M Feb 2016 #183

Thank you. This is the best answer so far. bravenak Feb 2016 #189

There are plenty of bills introduced in every session that are geared directly to POCs Empowerer Feb 2016 #211

Thank you! lovemydog Feb 2016 #234

Where is the list of Pro Black/POC legislation gotten through by anyone? ladjf Feb 2016 #191

Civil rights act bravenak Feb 2016 #196

Wrong! The Civil Rights Act doesn't count Vattel Feb 2016 #205

It counts for me and my purposes because it was specifically Intended to HELP POC bravenak Feb 2016 #206

Nope, it doesn't count because it was specifically intended to help other groups as well. Vattel Feb 2016 #208

But us Specifically bravenak Feb 2016 #216

No, sorry, you laid down the rules and I am just enforcing them. Vattel Feb 2016 #218

Wrong bravenak Feb 2016 #220

The Civil Rights Act protects Vattel Feb 2016 #225

Who did it start with? bravenak Feb 2016 #228

It didn't start with POC. Vattel Feb 2016 #237

Umm hmm bravenak Feb 2016 #238

OP, you forgot to add Hillary's historic co-sponsorship of the resolution to... TheBluestEye Feb 2016 #217

Please!! I've been laughing all day, I might pee. bravenak Feb 2016 #227

The Emancipation Proclamation doesn't count, because it was not legislation. Vattel Feb 2016 #230

Good. Scratch that one cause it did not do what it was said it does bravenak Feb 2016 #233

Civil Rights Act 1964, Emancipation Proclamation 1863, ladjf Feb 2016 #241

I cannot love an answer more than this one I think bravenak Feb 2016 #248

For openers, you are a much better writer than I. You are able to condense your ladjf Feb 2016 #268

Very kind of you bravenak Feb 2016 #275

OP, that is odd. No one is "continuously" telling me that Bernie has fought for me. TheBluestEye Feb 2016 #210

Well they tell me bravenak Feb 2016 #222

But people can't point to more than a handful of things he has done to "fight" for people of color Empowerer Feb 2016 #279

I don't think that I have ever heard Bernie claim to be "great civil rights crusader" at all... TheBluestEye Feb 2016 #305

Post after post rephrasing your question, asking defecting questions... Sheepshank Feb 2016 #215

Well, I see you summed this up to a tee! bravenak Feb 2016 #224

K&R Gothmog Feb 2016 #221

Too long to reproduce here. (eom) HassleCat Feb 2016 #226

The list does not exist bravenak Feb 2016 #231

are you familiar with google? noiretextatique Feb 2016 #245

He has written nothing on that issue, thanks!! bravenak Feb 2016 #252

bullshit eom noiretextatique Feb 2016 #292

Not even this much bravenak Feb 2016 #293

Not all of his accomplishments involved a bill jfern Feb 2016 #258

I'm doing legislation only today bravenak Feb 2016 #260

The right thing no matter how unpopular never becomes law jfern Feb 2016 #265

Fight for it anyway, right? bravenak Feb 2016 #267

Bernie has fought for many things with bills he sponsored or cosponsored jfern Feb 2016 #270

Affirmative action? bravenak Feb 2016 #273

sigh.... anyone else notice all the non answers? tia uponit7771 Feb 2016 #262

Yes. But some answered very well, imo bravenak Feb 2016 #263

Yeap, long thread... there were a couple of good list. uponit7771 Feb 2016 #269

Do your own homework. Surely you can do a Google search. cali Feb 2016 #311

There is none thanks bravenak Feb 2016 #313

How about a list of HRC's Carolina Feb 2016 #318

I already posted one bravenak Feb 2016 #319

Here's HRC's record Carolina Feb 2016 #320

She messed up in 2008 bravenak Feb 2016 #332

Your non-response Carolina Feb 2016 #334

Nothing wrong with Arkansas bravenak Feb 2016 #335

Good SOS Carolina Feb 2016 #341

he has successfully had Vets bill passed - and two post offices named DrDan Feb 2016 #324

Very true DrDan bravenak Feb 2016 #326

The Best Research/Vetting Site Ever fredamae Feb 2016 #336

Would you provide us a list of any politician's Pro POC legislation for the past 40 years? nt ladjf Feb 2016 #337

"No, lets talk about Hillary" seems to be the answer to your question. zappaman Feb 2016 #339