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2016 Postmortem

VirginiaTarheel

(823 posts)

13. The notion that debates can't determine elections is wrong

Reply to phleshdef (Original post)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 04:54 PM

Oct 2012

Clearly voters judged Obama very harshly becauase of his debate performance and some changed their voting preferences based on it. Gallup and Rasmussen say Obama is rebounding, Pew and PPP say Obama now in very big trouble because of debate. At any rate, I think Dems should demand Obama clear his schedule and do debate prep nearly 24/7 now. His upcoming performances likely will decide the election.

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New Pew poll has Romney gaining 7% more of the African American vote after the debate. [View all] phleshdef Oct 2012 OP

Speaking as an AA, I'd like to know who these people are. This has a certain "stench" to it. nt Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #1

P-ew flamingdem Oct 2012 #14

I would agree. I sure as hell would like to meet 'em, cuz I don't know any personally. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #15

No way in hell. He did gain support with women and young voters though budkin Oct 2012 #2

Another black American here. Pew is bullshit! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2012 #3

Right, thats true. But even still, I don't think Romney was carrying 12% of the AA vote at anytime. phleshdef Oct 2012 #9

Well if you are at zero you can only go up but ... Botany Oct 2012 #4

It is the only poll that has Romney ahead. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #5

Two words. LeftofObama Oct 2012 #6

Well wasn't be at zero? 93-7 doesn't seem that implausible. dkf Oct 2012 #7

This poll has it 88-12. phleshdef Oct 2012 #8

Now that is definitely off. 93-7 is plausible, but not 88-12. Not Romney. anneboleyn Oct 2012 #18

I think the original numbers are screwed up. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #10

It's entirely possible... Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #11

Well I believe he is too. I don't think Pew plays games. I trust they report what they find. phleshdef Oct 2012 #12

The notion that debates can't determine elections is wrong VirginiaTarheel Oct 2012 #13

It's not even so much the debate qanda Oct 2012 #16

7% pick up of the Black vote toward Mitt Romney? UCmeNdc Oct 2012 #17

All the AA friends I have say it's nonsense TroyD Oct 2012 #19