2016 Postmortem

Voice for Peace

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133. Are you comfortable supporting a person who uses dishonesty to manipulate voters?

Reply to Doctor Jack (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:07 PM

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If Sanders Can't Handle Clinton's "Dirty Tricks" [View all] Doctor Jack Feb 2016 OP

Bernie has handled those just fine, people just complain when they are pointed out. nt Autumn Feb 2016 #1

His supporters calling out the bullshit !== "can't handle" Matariki Feb 2016 #2

And we can use that to comfort ourselves when President Trump is rounding up millions of people Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #4

You're so lost Kall Feb 2016 #6

What a sad post that was from the good Dr. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #27

If we end up with trump it will because she treats Democrats jwirr Feb 2016 #54

That's what you get if you vote for her Politicalboi Feb 2016 #82

You'll get that President Trump along with the lowest voter turnout in history with Hillary. frylock Feb 2016 #88

Lately I'm not sure that is true. 840high Feb 2016 #129

Are you comfortable supporting a person who uses dishonesty to manipulate voters? Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #133

I will always speak up when the UglyGreed Feb 2016 #14

.^that 840high Feb 2016 #128

Bernie can and will hold his own against the GOP Rebkeh Feb 2016 #3

Huh.. asuhornets Feb 2016 #10

Nope. It's exactly what I meant. Eom Rebkeh Feb 2016 #12

Were you around for the presidential election in 2000? n/t Yavin4 Feb 2016 #71

When the chickenshit Democrats allowed the Republicans to steal it? frylock Feb 2016 #89

I think John Kerry tried that approach against Bush Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #16

No, he didn't. He ignored the smears, trusting people would know they were lies. magical thyme Feb 2016 #44

You missed the point - John Kerry did not fight back against jwirr Feb 2016 #58

That is now considered whining... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #73

Yep. We're supposed to curl up in a ball and accept our truncheon blows.. frylock Feb 2016 #90

Some peope are just deluded...lol Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #92

Well that is part of what we see with Hillary's campaign - jwirr Feb 2016 #96

...And then they cry foul... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #97

So it would seem. jwirr Feb 2016 #100

+1..that escapes some here. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #111

There are times where I wish Bernie would fight back harder SheenaR Feb 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #7

Apple and Oranges noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #8

Bernie (or anyone else who tries to change the dynamics) relies on us newthinking Feb 2016 #9

Sanders is easy on Clinton because she is a dem. 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #11

I don't like the "just you wait" approach Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #21

Actually neither do I. 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #24

Bernie is an ass-kicker when he needs to be demwing Feb 2016 #91

Bernie supporters will not put up with lies being flung at them from their opponent. And because of jillan Feb 2016 #13

He knows the difference between integrity and the lack of integrity. nc4bo Feb 2016 #15

Do you assume the opposite as well? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #17

Clinton has spent 25 years being attacked by the Republican machine Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #18

Oh, so she gets a pass on losing to an old socialist? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #22

Not sure how you think Clinton is losing right now Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #25

Not now. I asked if she DID lose to Sanders, whether or not you would then conclude that he was the Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #26

If he can beat Clinton then I will have a lot more confidence Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #36

Ok, that's a stance I agree with. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #51

And if she keeps it up, she will spend another 10 fighting the Left. nt artislife Feb 2016 #40

From the beginning, Bernie has had to fight the Hillary Clinton/Democratic Party, the media, Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #19

Sorry, Bernie Sanders. There is zero evidence of your ‘political revolution’ yet Gothmog Feb 2016 #31

Actually you're wrong jonjon Feb 2016 #46

The Sanders campaign is based on millions and millions of new voters Gothmog Feb 2016 #59

Easy. According to some Bernie supporters, the GOP will roll over for Sanders. wyldwolf Feb 2016 #20

We call out this garbage when the Republicans do it. backscatter712 Feb 2016 #23

Call if out all you want Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #32

Well, if he loses the nomination, it's moot. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #80

Bernie can and has been handling it just fine. grntuscarora Feb 2016 #28

The Clinton campaign has been treating Sanders with kid gloves Gothmog Feb 2016 #29

I know what they look like from having lived 60+ years, thank you. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #83

They cheat and lie ALL the time Politicalboi Feb 2016 #84

Rove has been running several million dollars of attack ads against Clinton Gothmog Feb 2016 #86

If Hillary can't win the primary without a "scorched earth" campaign that targets anybody who dares magical thyme Feb 2016 #30

The patty-cakes attacks on Sanders so far will pale in comparison to what the GOP will use Gothmog Feb 2016 #34

Hillary: plays few dirty tricks and that's about all you can ask for in a candidate. artislife Feb 2016 #39

Are the Sanders supporters prepared for what the GOP will do to Sanders if he is the nominee" Gothmog Feb 2016 #52

Who is enthused? artislife Feb 2016 #61

You ignored my question. How will Hillary win the general if she needs a scorched earth campaign to magical thyme Feb 2016 #41

Again, there is no scorched earth campaign Gothmog Feb 2016 #49

we have different definitions of "scorched earth." How is she going to win back the significant #s magical thyme Feb 2016 #93

Yes, we do but the 2008 example supports my claim Gothmog Feb 2016 #94

That has nothing to do with my question. Enough. magical thyme Feb 2016 #95

I was one of the so-called Obama boys Gothmog Feb 2016 #105

I'm not asking about Clinton supporters. I'm asking about Sanders supporters who hated '08 Clinton magical thyme Feb 2016 #106

If you are comfortable letting the GOP control the SCOTUS Gothmog Feb 2016 #107

and here come the threats. magical thyme Feb 2016 #109

I am living in Texas with the consequences of the gutting of the Voting Rights Act Gothmog Feb 2016 #113

too bad, so sad. magical thyme Feb 2016 #114

Good luck with your appeal for support for Sanders Gothmog Feb 2016 #115

After Nevada, the Threats from the "Bernie or Bust" Crowd Grow Louder Gothmog Feb 2016 #116

I'm not trying to change your vote. magical thyme Feb 2016 #121

Then what was the point of your posts above? Gothmog Feb 2016 #123

you're joking right? I asked how Hillary plans to win the general without Sanders' supporters. Over magical thyme Feb 2016 #124

I hate to break it to you but DU does not represent or reflect the real world Gothmog Feb 2016 #127

The same way Hillary is winning the primaries. William769 Feb 2016 #132

No we won't and I can't emphasize enough ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #125

"spoiled little assholes" -- dude sure knows how to court Dem voters! nashville_brook Feb 2016 #131

We've heard the talking point, ad nauseam. grntuscarora Feb 2016 #47

If you are upset by the so-called attacks by the Clinton campaign then you have not heard it all Gothmog Feb 2016 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author grntuscarora Feb 2016 #66

You missed my point. grntuscarora Feb 2016 #67

It's my turn? n/t libdem4life Feb 2016 #77

Attack ads work and you are fooling yourself if you think that voters ignore these ads Gothmog Feb 2016 #87

Hillary has lobbed multiple Rove-esque attacks on Bernie already AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #74

Most of these claims are not proven but even if these are true, this is nothing Gothmog Feb 2016 #85

I'm not quite there yet, grntuscarora Feb 2016 #35

bravo on this, you most certainly are not alone in your thoughts towards Hillary. eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #64

One of the most clueless posts I've ever read tularetom Feb 2016 #33

I haven't seen these level of dirty tricks from Donald Trump jfern Feb 2016 #37

What has clinton done that is worse than Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #43

Having surrogates attacking Bernie and his supporters with lies jfern Feb 2016 #45

Are you willing to vote for someone like h or someone like Bernie artislife Feb 2016 #38

Me personally, I'm not voting for Clinton in the primaries Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #48

Thanks for the sanity, Doctor! NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #137

keep lurking Skippy olddots Feb 2016 #42

He won't get the chance to be GOP chum ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #50

Enabler (noun), a person who encourages or enables negative or self-destructive behavior in another. GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #53

Nah. Just like in '08, he gets past Hillary and he's won AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #55

You are tragically mistaken in almost all your assessments in the OP. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #56

I see. It's either conspiracy theory by us or dirty tricks by Clinton and, either way, it's Bernie's merrily Feb 2016 #60

I think your basic premise that the Repugs will throw more than Hillary can, is wrong. Karma13612 Feb 2016 #62

Alright, show me Clinton attacks on Sanders that are worse Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #68

Easy will the GOP have a John Lewis to say I never met him? I met_______ azurnoir Feb 2016 #99

Iunno. Weathervane's playbook is lookin' pretty Rovian. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #63

No thanks! You can help her cheat her way to a win all on your own! closeupready Feb 2016 #65

Is that what I said? Doctor Jack Feb 2016 #69

Even if Bernie is elected president, the Republicans won't stop Yavin4 Feb 2016 #70

"toughen the fuck up." Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #72

If you don't think that Hillary's attacks will come back at her, your being a fool AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #75

Sigh... SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #76

Wait for Donald Dump's dirty tricks Politicalboi Feb 2016 #78

I suspect Sanders can handle it, elleng Feb 2016 #79

I think it's because he is a real gentleman, he personally likes her, and isn't willing to sell his libdem4life Feb 2016 #81

I think it's because he believes Democrats shouldn't do the kind of slimy politics Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #98

We are talking about election fraud. What you are talking about I don't know. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #101

I have to say that I agree with you CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #102

Kneel before Zod! Orsino Feb 2016 #103

Bernie does not do dirty tricks! longship Feb 2016 #104

Easy, just ask yourself this question. What would prevent Bernie from going after them will all Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #108

I have found that those who use dirty tricks often have had them done to them but also.. nolabels Feb 2016 #110

Bad behavior from the shithead GOP is expected. Armstead Feb 2016 #112

What bad behavior are you talking about? Gothmog Feb 2016 #117

Oh where to begin Armstead Feb 2016 #119

The List of complaints are really minor compared to what the GOP would do to Sanders Gothmog Feb 2016 #120

As I said above bad behavior -- reprehensible behavior -- is expected from the GOP Armstead Feb 2016 #136

*yawn* ssdd. going on ignore list. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #118

Keith Olbermann once said Hillary ran against Obama like she was the Republican and he the Democrat. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #122

Better idea: Clinton can try running a clean campaign for once yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #126

No, it doesn't beg the question. It raises the question. Hissyspit Feb 2016 #130

That was a lovely rambling way to say dirty tricks are A Okay. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #134

Is this an excuse for dirty tricks? JackRiddler Feb 2016 #135