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2016 Postmortem

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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:36 PM Feb 2016

DU is brimming with "outrage" over how HRC treats blacks, with thread after thread telling [View all]

us how insensitive, how bigoted, how racist, and how unworthy she is to have the support of black voters. Given how many posts "wonder" and often outright demand that we explain why black voters would even CONSIDER voting for her given how horribly she supposedly treats minorities, it is clear that these posts are not intended to illuminate but are instead designed to turn black voters away from her. Although they primarily deal with actions, comments and votes from years and sometimes decades ago, these threads have increased multifold in just the past few days since Hillary won the Nevada caucus and it's looking like black voters are going to help Hillary to a big victory in South Carolina.

But I think these "concerns" would be better received and possibly more effective if they came from people who had evidenced similar concern about how we're viewed and treated by anyone other than Hillary and anytime before it appeared that the black vote would make such a big difference. However, many of the people who are SO upset about Hillary's comments are the most dismissive and insulting and offensive toward black DUers on this board and show absolutely no concern for or interest in our opinions, perspectives or feelings. And when we express outrage or consternation about something that WE think is offensive or racist, these people are more likely than not to bat away our concerns and even scold and mock us for being overly sensitive.

In light of that, it's no wonder that many of us aren't impressed with their sudden conversion into ultra-sensitive guardians of our sensibilities and are not responding favorably to their demands that we abandon Hillary Clinton because THEY have decided that our support for her is not in our best interests.

I'll consider taking seriously their outrage about Hillary's approach to race once they demonstrate that they give a sh#t about racism in any context other than to exploit it for their own narrow political ends.
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Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #1
Welcome to DU! Arazi Feb 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author smiley Feb 2016 #17
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #22
Sighhhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #45
my first jury duty in a while. Glad I served. bettyellen Feb 2016 #47
Are you kidding? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #49
you agree with that post that AA voters are stupid and can be steered to any candidate? bettyellen Feb 2016 #50
I didn't read it that way at all... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #55
"black education is of such a poor level that you can steer this (voting) block into any direction" bettyellen Feb 2016 #59
Because farleftlib Feb 2016 #51
It included a personal attack on the OP, for one. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #53
are you serious? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #71
You know, I should have cut and pasted it while it was still able to be read... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #76
I wish I had seen the offending post in full, passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #78
Well, I DID read it, so I'm trying to go by my initial impression... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #79
Fair enough passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #84
Yep... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #87
Funny thing, isn't it? EffieBlack Feb 2016 #52
I would say Yes ... If it wasn't so damned sad. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #67
wow. And a lot of people agreed with that racist troll JI7 Feb 2016 #64
But that poster was a long time lurking Black person! ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #68
of course, because of all the discussions that have taken place JI7 Feb 2016 #85
Welcome to DU ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #32
My mom, god bless her memory, was Jewish... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #41
Godwin's Law. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #33
Welcome to DU. 840high Feb 2016 #34
Uh, the bigoted troll is gone. Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #60
one less buddy for him! bettyellen Feb 2016 #62
Someone alerted on ya. Not very surprised. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #37
Your post seems to assume that all of her critics are white. arcane1 Feb 2016 #2
No, her post clearly states that people who never cared about black issues suddenly lunamagica Feb 2016 #9
Gee I have only been covering BLM issues since it started nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #18
Then the OP is not about you, is it? lunamagica Feb 2016 #30
Oh it is nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #35
No it is not. It ia about people on DU who have never posted about black issues, and now, all of lunamagica Feb 2016 #39
Go ahead and test this talking point on twitter nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #43
LOL ... See I told you! eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Feb 2016 #63
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #38
I'm just mean that way... lunamagica Feb 2016 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #23
What guy would that be? Tell me about him. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #27
huh? How do I know what? What post are you answering? I haven't mentione Sanders AT ALL lunamagica Feb 2016 #29
Well, that last part is where you are wrong. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #74
truth is truth litlbilly Feb 2016 #3
You ain't kidding alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #4
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... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #11
Michelle Alexander TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #12
+1. eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #54
I was told he can get the nomination without the black vote rbrnmw Feb 2016 #66
Excellent post, Effie! leftofcool Feb 2016 #5
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Another great post Effie. Lucinda Feb 2016 #7
Truth. nt Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #13
Charles Blow has an interesting op-ed today that touches on this frazzled Feb 2016 #14
Thanks, good snippet. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #21
Mr. Blow has been so on point! Love that man! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #44
Stop attempting to speak for all minorities. TM99 Feb 2016 #15
I just have to say farleftlib Feb 2016 #24
Thank you! Beautifully said Arazi Feb 2016 #25
Correct nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #36
Well said n/t Hydra Feb 2016 #93
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #16
Ok let's play a game of SPOT THE TALKING POINT nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #19
How is this different than the piling on of Bernie Sanders POC "problem"? farleftlib Feb 2016 #20
Pure truth. great white snark Feb 2016 #26
+1 ... Now trash OP without returning being ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #28
She is the worst person who ever lived !!! Check her scalp for 666!!!! dubyadiprecession Feb 2016 #31
Many of us POC have made this point over and over again. It's fallen on deaf ears. Wonder why... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #40
Noticed this too. You go, Effie! bettyellen Feb 2016 #48
My anger is not so much about her bigotry - it is about the jwirr Feb 2016 #56
You assume it's "sudden conversions" by cynical sanders supporters Armstead Feb 2016 #57
I think you'd have to be a regular in the AA forum to get the full picture. bettyellen Feb 2016 #65
This is what I said about this rbrnmw Feb 2016 #72
Great post. K & R nt Persondem Feb 2016 #58
I think a lot of it is schadenfreude whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #61
Exactly Right! farleftlib Feb 2016 #69
I don't understand why any democrat would support her californiabernin Feb 2016 #70
If I'm reading this correctly... retrowire Feb 2016 #73
Even if all the zentrum Feb 2016 #75
We all voted for President Obama, twice, because we're racists? Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #77
You interpreted the OP to, somehow, be calling ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #89
I strongly agree....and its sad.... markj757 Feb 2016 #80
I agree with you 100% EffieBlack Feb 2016 #82
Exactly. BainsBane Feb 2016 #81
K&R betsuni Feb 2016 #83
Da-a-amn! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #86
Good luck with that. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #88
Thank you for proving the point of this thread.... markj757 Feb 2016 #90
Proving who I will listen to? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #92
NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BERNIE !! Hiraeth Feb 2016 #91
Kick & very highly recommended! William769 Feb 2016 #94
Bernie is tone deaf on race...wasn't that the line that opened this can of worms? noiretextatique Feb 2016 #95
No, not at all EffieBlack Feb 2016 #96
Hmm will try putting this in the virtual trash again nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #97
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