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2016 Postmortem

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This is what Bernie believed while Hillary was talking about superpredators. libtodeath Feb 2016 #1
Their perceptions are as night and day. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #2
In this 1991 speech Bernie coming from a 90+% white state, mentions disproportionately Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #3
The man's message has never changed..... smiley Feb 2016 #8
It was my pleasure, smiley. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #10
Peace to you too Uncle Joe! smiley Feb 2016 #11
How any liberal/progressive could pass up the opportunity to vote for this man, is beyond me. n/t TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #13
+1 Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #102
And then he voted for it. Did anyone really listen to Hillary's discussion of the bill and why she Jitter65 Feb 2016 #4
This is why Bernie voted for it and what Hillary thought of the people. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #5
He likes to play both sides of the fence itsrobert Feb 2016 #6
Hillary just played one side, the dog whistle side, Bernie tried repeatedly to improve the bill and Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #7
Nice try, but Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2016 #16
He would not have had to have chosen TM99 Feb 2016 #9
of course nothing is ever st bernie of vermont's fault dsc Feb 2016 #26
More of the religious cult bullshit, I see. TM99 Feb 2016 #28
Technically a representative, but he was more elite as the at-large Rep. than the 2 senators :) JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #97
I corrected it - thanks. TM99 Feb 2016 #105
Bernie tried six time to improve the bill but he was only 1 Congressperson in a House of 435. Bernie Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #29
I listened to how she helped sell it.... daleanime Feb 2016 #108
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #12
"Only one Bernie" Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #14
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #116
Thanks for the kind words, Jenny, Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #128
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #15
And then he voted "yea". Agschmid Feb 2016 #17
This is why Bernie voted for it and what Hillary thought of the people. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #18
A "yea" vote is a "yea" vote. Agschmid Feb 2016 #19
I'm happy to hear you don't fault Bernie for it but do you fault Hillary for using racist Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #20
I fault you for your stance here, both our leaders failed us. Agschmid Feb 2016 #22
You just stated that you don't fault Bernie, now you're trying to have it both ways by not Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #23
I don't fault him, he voted for the VWA. Agschmid Feb 2016 #24
There was a major difference in MOTIVATION and PROMOTION. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #25
... And then he voted for it. Agschmid Feb 2016 #27
Bernie reluctantly voted for it because the bill protected women, and banned assault weapons, Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #30
He voted for it. Agschmid Feb 2016 #31
Bernie couldn't do better he was only 1 of 435 members in Congress, Hillary could have done better Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #32
He could have voted "nay"... Agschmid Feb 2016 #33
Had Bernie voted nay after trying six times to improve the bill, people here would be condemning him Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #34
A "yea" vote is support for a bill, the FULL bill. Agschmid Feb 2016 #35
Bernie did the best he could, Hillary did the worst and you couldn't be more wrong Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #36
Thanks for the personal insult. Agschmid Feb 2016 #37
That wasn't an insult, I said you're smarter than that and you just changed your text. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #38
I didn't change my text, no edits were made and it was a personal insult. Agschmid Feb 2016 #39
Yes you did change your text, post #35 Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #40
The words mean exactly the same thing. Agschmid Feb 2016 #41
No they don't and you know better, SUPPORT for every aspect of a bill is not the same as voting Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #42
He clearly was willing to vote it. He voted "yea". Agschmid Feb 2016 #43
Because it protected women and banned assault weapons, he tried to improve it six times but Bernie Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #44
Yes they both failed us here. Agschmid Feb 2016 #45
Bernie didn't, Hillary did, from your post #19 "I don't fault him for it, but it happened." do you Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #46
Bernie didn't? He voted "yea". Agschmid Feb 2016 #47
Bernie tried to improve the bill six times and his message was opposite of Hillary's race based Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #50
He tried to improve the bill... Agschmid Feb 2016 #53
Do you believe Bernie should've voted against the the assault weapons ban and the Violence Against Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #54
I believe Bernie could have introduced them as a separate bill. Agschmid Feb 2016 #56
there was no assault weapons ban one_voice Feb 2016 #121
I believe that's incorrect. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #127
According to the article.. one_voice Feb 2016 #130
I agree with your last sentence. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #132
Shall we continue? Agschmid Feb 2016 #48
All night if need be, I have a full pot of coffee. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #51
So a "nay" vote would then be a rejection of the entire bill, Beowulf Feb 2016 #58
Bernie voted "yea". Agschmid Feb 2016 #59
Hillary SUPPORTED the ENTIRE bill and Bernie didn't. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #60
Yes I agree about Hillary. Agschmid Feb 2016 #61
You agree that Hillary used racist dog whistle language and that she SUPPORTED the ENTIRE bill, Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #64
I agree that her support of the bill was misguided. Agschmid Feb 2016 #65
That wasn't my question. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #67
... and still Bernie voted "yea". Agschmid Feb 2016 #70
You still haven't answered my question. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #71
... And Bernie still voted "yea"... Agschmid Feb 2016 #73
"Yea" what? You agree with my question? Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #75
No "yea" as in Bernie's vote for the bill... Agschmid Feb 2016 #77
The question wasn't about vote it was about support. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #80
I've answered it several times. Agschmid Feb 2016 #83
No you haven't Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #85
Since we're making demands... Agschmid Feb 2016 #87
You answer my question first and I will answer yours. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #89
I don't respond well to demands. Agschmid Feb 2016 #91
It wasn't a demand, it was a question which I have presented to you multiple times on this thread Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #96
Yah I don't do those either... Agschmid Feb 2016 #98
You don't do complexity well, do you? Beowulf Feb 2016 #62
And another personal insult. Agschmid Feb 2016 #63
There is really no comparison. Clinton was way behind Bernie on this issue. That is obvious. Vattel Feb 2016 #68
And yet he voted "yea". Agschmid Feb 2016 #69
To quote forjusticethunders: Vattel Feb 2016 #72
Yes both our candidates made the wrong decision here. Agschmid Feb 2016 #74
yeah, I get the routine Vattel Feb 2016 #78
It's not a routine... Agschmid Feb 2016 #79
chuckle Vattel Feb 2016 #81
"Yea"... That was the recorded vote. Agschmid Feb 2016 #82
Sanders was a leader on that issue. He argued against mass incarceration. Vattel Feb 2016 #133
A leader who voted "yea" for the whole bill. Agschmid Feb 2016 #135
exactly Vattel Feb 2016 #136
Kick & Rec.. think Feb 2016 #21
recommended. H2O Man Feb 2016 #49
Thank you, H2O Man. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #52
Another kick and a reminder why Bernie eventually voted for it: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #55
Thanks for the addition, beam me up scottie. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #57
It was known back then. trillion Feb 2016 #66
+1 Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #129
basic ethics seem like supernatural powers of autonomous Feb 2016 #76
I know. Agschmid Feb 2016 #84
That's not true, Bernie tried to improve it, Hillary embraced it. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #86
Bernie voted "yea" on the bill. Agschmid Feb 2016 #90
From my post#18 to you Bernie did try to improve it. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #93
And then he voted "yea" on a flawed bill. Agschmid Feb 2016 #95
To save women's lives: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #99
So he compromised. Agschmid Feb 2016 #101
No, one WHOLEHEARTEDLY supported, promoted and SOLD it. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #106
The other... Agschmid Feb 2016 #110
The crime bill, welfare reform, DOMA, the Iraq war, death penalty, war on drugs. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #113
It's clear where you stand... Agschmid Feb 2016 #115
Of course you are, that's easier than answering the question. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #117
Yup that's it. You caught me, I'm going to go to bed to avoid a very productive debate. Agschmid Feb 2016 #119
You were the one who said they were flawed now you don't want to discuss degrees. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #120
"Run away" aka go to bed. Agschmid Feb 2016 #123
All you have to do is answer the question. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #125
So whats your plan, suck it up and lie about how awesome the bill was? autonomous Feb 2016 #114
And another personal attack (calling me a liar). Agschmid Feb 2016 #118
I don't want to get into political science 101 but a President carries much more influence, Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #100
It does. (And another personal insult...) Agschmid Feb 2016 #103
Trump can't do anything until and unless he becomes elected, it does scare the shit out of me and Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #107
Hillary wants to expand the drug war, not end it. And her buddy DWS wants more pot smokers in prison Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #88
If you mean this war on drugs... Agschmid Feb 2016 #92
Leaving aside the fact that every time someone asks her about marijuana legalization in the debates Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #122
Good response, thanks. Agschmid Feb 2016 #124
What a beautiful heart Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #94
Bernie does have beautiful heart. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #109
Thank you uncle Joe Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #131
K&R! Thanks, Uncle Joe! dchill Feb 2016 #104
Thank you, dchill. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #111
You're welcome! dchill Feb 2016 #112
Kick! nt LiberalElite Feb 2016 #126
Bernie is spot on with this madokie Feb 2016 #134
Bernie's lifetime of work has Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #139
Funny how that works. Octafish Feb 2016 #137
It was my pleasure, Octafish. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #138
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