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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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81. Bottom line: Hillary is a Clinton and could make history vs Bernie Who?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:31 PM
Mar 2016

From where?

Hillary's been prepping herself for this day for a quarter of a century. No one ever heard of Bernie. Bernie was pretty much called to run from Thom Hartmann listeners. And even then he said he'd only considerate if a Progressive didn't step forward to run against Hillary. That was when we were clamouring for Elizabeth to run. When it finally became clear that she wasn't going to run, he started to research the viability of a run.

His message is strong. One can only wonder whether, given time and in the absence of a Clinton, whether his message would resonate with southern blacks, too. Unfortunately, he didn't have time and he is running against a Clinton. Throw in a media black out and a run against a machine, and you begin to appreciate just how powerful his message is. The Primary is set up so that if you get out in front early, it's almost impossible to catch up.

And that's the bottom line.

Yea but Bernie got tons of media attention Gwhittey Mar 2016 #1
It means if HIllary ends up being the nominee, she better damn well fight like an underdog. morningfog Mar 2016 #2
She should, but will she? malthaussen Mar 2016 #5
My fear is that she can't. KPN Mar 2016 #66
I too don't have a high level of confidence that Hillary can win the presidential general election Victor_c3 Mar 2016 #78
Hillary has always been a fighter. Look what she's had to put up with since the 90's. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #73
Most of it, both Bill and Hillary brought on theirselves. zalinda Mar 2016 #84
One wonders how things would stand... malthaussen Mar 2016 #3
No "coin tosses," very likely, just outright wins BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #13
Still with the inaccurate coin toss garbage mythology Mar 2016 #86
Really? Prove it BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #88
All of the Above Armstead Mar 2016 #4
+1 Duval Mar 2016 #55
She has more total votes than Sanders and 2-1 livetohike Mar 2016 #6
She is not 2-1 on delegates. She is up 771 to 550. morningfog Mar 2016 #9
Her Super Delegate lead is part of the "every advantage" I was referencing Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #10
Yes. All of the above. n/t TDale313 Mar 2016 #7
In my opinion, Sanders' popularity is not a mystery. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #8
I think we should just cancel the November election and just let Trump have it all Armstead Mar 2016 #11
I don't see how your response relates to my post but I respect your right to respond. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #15
Because you are saying there is nothing Bernie could do so he should just shut up Armstead Mar 2016 #17
I never said that Sanders should shut up. You must have read that in another post. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #21
I was using hyperbolie. Armstead Mar 2016 #25
I would warn the Democratic Party not to Patronize the Young Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #14
You don't believe that the disenfranchising gerrymandering tactics that the Republicans have Trust Buster Mar 2016 #19
I think this comment comes across as patronizing: Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #26
they're obviously just a bunch of ignorant young tools and fools stupidicus Mar 2016 #31
Saying that a group is idealistic is not the same as saying they are ignorant... anotherproletariat Mar 2016 #64
spare me stupidicus Mar 2016 #74
Thank you. I couldn't have said it better myself. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #79
+1! KPN Mar 2016 #67
You pick a perfect name for yourself..... daleanime Mar 2016 #62
Obama has tried that tract. He never offers anything the GOP wouldn't accept and then waters it Vincardog Mar 2016 #77
Running against Hillary is like playing a basketball game on the other team's home court BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #12
Just an observation that the "weak" candidates has gotten 60% of the vote so far... brooklynite Mar 2016 #16
You should take that 40 percent seriously Armstead Mar 2016 #20
Shall we? You never do. Here is you not waiting for a single vote to be cast: Aug 10 Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #27
Well, right now the fact is she is winning Onlooker Mar 2016 #18
I mostly agree with you here. fun n serious Mar 2016 #22
There is a fundamental difference between Bernie and Trump Armstead Mar 2016 #23
Thanks for a thoughtful comment Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #24
I give Sanders a lot of credit for his campaign.. fun n serious Mar 2016 #29
Reason tells me that those who will call Hillary an extreme socialist and Obama a Kenyan Muslim Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #32
I am not saying WE must change our idea.. fun n serious Mar 2016 #36
See, that's why Sanders has an advantage, seriously... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #34
That's not what I mean. fun n serious Mar 2016 #43
And yet all of the polling shows... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #50
If the point is to make arbitrary equations to Trump let's remember that Donald is the wealthy Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #30
I think Hillary is running a good, smart campaign ... salinsky Mar 2016 #28
Your last point is fiction. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #35
Both Trump and Sanders are running on somewhat radical populist messages ... salinsky Mar 2016 #63
Trump rally marions ghost Mar 2016 #47
The coverage has made it clear that I wouldn't be welcome there. salinsky Mar 2016 #58
What a shameful, nasty remark that is... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #51
It wasn't meant to be nasty ... salinsky Mar 2016 #59
Nonsense. ljm2002 Mar 2016 #65
It is what it is, man ... salinsky Mar 2016 #70
My god man... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #72
Hillary Knows How to Win gordyfl Mar 2016 #33
Oh c'mon. I have more damning evidence than that of Sanders and a better "source" fun n serious Mar 2016 #37
Please, present your evidence... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #52
People are ready for a female president, but rejecting establishment candidates. JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #38
This is true, and a good point. Utopian Leftist Mar 2016 #85
She only had one window to win. JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #87
Yep, all the party had to do was tag Elizabeth Warren for the job IllinoisLabour Mar 2016 #90
Or all of the above ibegurpard Mar 2016 #39
most Democrats are solid with either choice bigtree Mar 2016 #40
I'm continually amazed how people fail to see paradigm shifts. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #42
I agree. I can not be convinced. fun n serious Mar 2016 #45
This is the year of the perfect storm and it was only a matter of time before it hit. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #41
bernie's success represents and is due to unsated needs and desires stupidicus Mar 2016 #44
Well, I guess we will wait and see. nt. fun n serious Mar 2016 #46
It means that DINOs are dying off and the future belongs to progressives. fbc Mar 2016 #48
Either way, whomever the candidate is, they're going to need the supporters Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #49
It is a combo. Bernie is a strong candidate (can't be bought, honest) and his message is powerful. Skwmom Mar 2016 #53
Powerful DownriverDem Mar 2016 #54
He's convincingly made promises he has to know he can't keep in traditional politician fashion. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #56
We should not forget, what really started the tea baggers. sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #57
With Hillary as President... gordyfl Mar 2016 #68
His message is powerful. Duval Mar 2016 #60
or both.... daleanime Mar 2016 #61
I guess they're both "misunderstood".... George II Mar 2016 #69
Bernie Sanders Has Been Fighting the Middle Class for a Long Time gordyfl Mar 2016 #71
Hillary's candidacy is driven by the inertia of identity politics. Maedhros Mar 2016 #75
Great observation! KPN Mar 2016 #89
Any democrat we select should win in November azretired Mar 2016 #76
Hillary has never been a good candidate Dem2 Mar 2016 #80
Bottom line: Hillary is a Clinton and could make history vs Bernie Who? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #81
All of the above! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2016 #82
Whenever I hear that Hillary is a strong candidate, I have to resist the urge Gmak Mar 2016 #83
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