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Showing Original Post only (View all)US Uncut: Only Bernie Can Win GE and "Don't ask Bernie Supporters to Go Against Their Core Values" [View all]
Hillary Clinton Is Not Entitled to the Votes of Bernie Sanders Supporters
Tom Cahill | March 19, 2016
Hillary Clinton and her supporters would like to assume that if the former Secretary of State does end up with the Democratic nomination, Bernie Sanders base will fall in line and vote for Clinton to stop Trump. But they are wrong.
First off, its important to shut down the myth of Clintons inevitability as the eventual general election opponent to Donald Trump. The Democratic presidential primary is only halfway over, and Bernie Sanders has 42 percent of the pledged delegates thus far.
Even the New York Times which has publicly endorsed Clintons campaign and whose public editor called out the paper for showing an obvious pro-Clinton bias in a recent stealth editing job admits Sanders can still end up as the nominee, and they laid out a path for how he could do it. Writing off Sanders chances now and telling his supporters that they have no choice but to unite behind Clinton is premature.
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In fact, between 2004 and 2014, the percentage of young voters who identified as independent rather than Democrat jumped from 38 percent to 50 percent. And in all of the states Bernie Sanders has won, and even the states hes lost by considerable margins, like Virginia and Tennessee, hes still managed to capture a wide majority of independents and voters under the age of 35. Its unrealistic to expect these largely independent voters to switch to the Democratic Party and vote for an elite member of the Democratic establishment.
And, lets be honest the entire reason so many Bernie Sanders supporters are so ardently anti-Hillary Clinton might be because of her refusal to strongly oppose the corrupt campaign finance system Bernie rages against.
Clintons top campaign donors include criminal Wall Street banks like Citibank and Goldman Sachs, and corporate-owned media companies like Time Warner and 21st Century Fox.
While Sanders is raising millions of $27 donations from the grassroots, Clinton raised money from Wall Street on at least 31 different occasions between the start of her campaign and the end of February.
Asking the supporters of the anti-Wall Street candidate who rejects Super PACs to suddenly back a pro-Wall Street candidate who embraces the Super PAC system would be asking them to betray their core values.
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Hillary Clinton is unable to bring in new blood to the Democratic Party like Bernie Sanders has done. In the last 11 primary contests, 7 states have gone to Clinton and 4 have gone to Sanders. As the below table shows, turnout for all of the states Clinton won is down significantly from 2008, the last time there was a contested Democratic presidential primary. Yet in three of the last four states Bernie Sanders won, turnout was up by as much as 49 percent:
The numbers speak for themselves: The Democratic Party is in for a shellacking if they end up nominating Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders has proven himself to be the one candidate capable of uniting the Democratic Party in his ability to bring in fresh faces, his consistently higher numbers when pitted against Republicans in hypothetical general election matchups, and a message that resonates with future generations.
Tom Cahill | March 19, 2016
Hillary Clinton and her supporters would like to assume that if the former Secretary of State does end up with the Democratic nomination, Bernie Sanders base will fall in line and vote for Clinton to stop Trump. But they are wrong.
First off, its important to shut down the myth of Clintons inevitability as the eventual general election opponent to Donald Trump. The Democratic presidential primary is only halfway over, and Bernie Sanders has 42 percent of the pledged delegates thus far.
Even the New York Times which has publicly endorsed Clintons campaign and whose public editor called out the paper for showing an obvious pro-Clinton bias in a recent stealth editing job admits Sanders can still end up as the nominee, and they laid out a path for how he could do it. Writing off Sanders chances now and telling his supporters that they have no choice but to unite behind Clinton is premature.
snip
In fact, between 2004 and 2014, the percentage of young voters who identified as independent rather than Democrat jumped from 38 percent to 50 percent. And in all of the states Bernie Sanders has won, and even the states hes lost by considerable margins, like Virginia and Tennessee, hes still managed to capture a wide majority of independents and voters under the age of 35. Its unrealistic to expect these largely independent voters to switch to the Democratic Party and vote for an elite member of the Democratic establishment.
And, lets be honest the entire reason so many Bernie Sanders supporters are so ardently anti-Hillary Clinton might be because of her refusal to strongly oppose the corrupt campaign finance system Bernie rages against.
Clintons top campaign donors include criminal Wall Street banks like Citibank and Goldman Sachs, and corporate-owned media companies like Time Warner and 21st Century Fox.
While Sanders is raising millions of $27 donations from the grassroots, Clinton raised money from Wall Street on at least 31 different occasions between the start of her campaign and the end of February.
Asking the supporters of the anti-Wall Street candidate who rejects Super PACs to suddenly back a pro-Wall Street candidate who embraces the Super PAC system would be asking them to betray their core values.
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Hillary Clinton is unable to bring in new blood to the Democratic Party like Bernie Sanders has done. In the last 11 primary contests, 7 states have gone to Clinton and 4 have gone to Sanders. As the below table shows, turnout for all of the states Clinton won is down significantly from 2008, the last time there was a contested Democratic presidential primary. Yet in three of the last four states Bernie Sanders won, turnout was up by as much as 49 percent:
The numbers speak for themselves: The Democratic Party is in for a shellacking if they end up nominating Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders has proven himself to be the one candidate capable of uniting the Democratic Party in his ability to bring in fresh faces, his consistently higher numbers when pitted against Republicans in hypothetical general election matchups, and a message that resonates with future generations.
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US Uncut: Only Bernie Can Win GE and "Don't ask Bernie Supporters to Go Against Their Core Values" [View all]
amborin
Mar 2016
OP
total projection; HRC ran false ads for days before the MI primary that lied about Bernie nt
amborin
Mar 2016
#3
Correct about the ad. And in fact, it actually never even mentions (or shows) Clinton.
thesquanderer
Mar 2016
#45
re: "And for sheer negativity I don't think Clinton's ad holds a candle to Bernie's"
thesquanderer
Mar 2016
#48
Thanks for the reminder. Michigan and Florida were special cases in 2008. (n/t)
thesquanderer
Mar 2016
#46
Except Clinton has the most votes of all candidates in both primaries so far.
CalvinballPro
Mar 2016
#5
It's typical bully behavior. Disparge the Left and then try to intimidate them into
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#7
You guys disparage the Left everyday because we don't bow before the god of Wealth.
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#10
The Left is hated because we will not knuckle under to the tough authoritarian leadership
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#38
Exactly. Insult those that don't vote Sanders them threaten them not voting Clinton leaving us with
seabeyond
Mar 2016
#9
You have a choice. Support the wealthy or support the working class and poor.
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#13
You are wrong. Sanders is not there for the poor. Clinton is the one for the less advantage.
seabeyond
Mar 2016
#14
Clinton is too busy having tea with the super duper wealthy and counting her recently amassed wealth
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#16
People are literally dying from poverty and poor health and you consider it petty. When Goldman-
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#39
What's the point in breaking a glass ceiling when most of Walmart's employees remain poor?
Fawke Em
Mar 2016
#53
Tell that to the people of Sierra Blanca. How much SBS cares for them. They will laugh in your face
lunamagica
Mar 2016
#65
The young people are coming out because they don't depend on the Corp-Media.
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#44
I am sorry if my contempt shows for those that root for the Clintons to amass more and more millions
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#68
I don't have a pot to piss in and you are telling me that I side with the rich.
hrmjustin
Mar 2016
#69
It's very simple. The Progressive are now and have always supported helping those that
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#70
You are dead wrong if you think the Dem nominee won't have won a majority of pledged delegates.
LonePirate
Mar 2016
#40
Bernie Is The Only Antidote To Rampant DNC DWS DLC HRC Third-Way Corporatist Corruption
cantbeserious
Mar 2016
#55
Very important FACTS. Maybe they'll help counter the deception and lies from the MSM
pdsimdars
Mar 2016
#60
Well, this convinced me. Fellow Hillary supporters, we must switch support to Bernie. Even though
Metric System
Mar 2016
#61