2016 Postmortem

Octafish

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188. Yes. His trick is DEMOCRACY.

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Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:02 AM

Mar 2016

Imagine a different world, one where people are more important than the almighty dollar.

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On foreign policy, Bernie is a one-trick pony [View all] RandySF Mar 2016 OP

I like that. dogman Mar 2016 #1

His vision involves a much lower body count. GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #2

Thread WINNER. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #7

Thank you. I'll be here all election season. GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #12

Great. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #17

It would be so refreshing to have a President who wasnt so narcissistic and grandiose. Baobab Mar 2016 #25

+1! NWCorona Mar 2016 #15

I doubt that he will get many attaboys from war roguevalley Mar 2016 #181

zzz i p. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #11

No indictments, either. pacalo Mar 2016 #31

Nor has Hillary any indictments if that's your point. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #33

Be patient. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #38

I'll patiently wait for bernie to actually answer questions on misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #49

The FBI is still investigating. My bad. pacalo Mar 2016 #41

Right. They're still questioning her IT guy, the one they granted full immunity to. CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #50

That's exactly the argument Hillary Clinton attacked Barack Obama with in 2008. CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #47

Enough experience to vote no on the IWR. dchill Mar 2016 #52

Did Hillary's experience help her make the right decision on the Iraq war? Perogie Mar 2016 #172

And that's why I love him! pacalo Mar 2016 #29

Yep +1 840high Mar 2016 #60

She wants to invade Iran. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #170

What is Hillary position? kcjohn1 Mar 2016 #3

bernie has no fp. z i p. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #6

Psst: experience isn't a resume plus when you were shitty at your job. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #51

Oh ya, tell me about it! Shitty at your job is blaming others for misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #57

Bye to you, too, Sparky. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #58

Neither did Obama. 840high Mar 2016 #61

So if you say that Sanders has no experience than that automatically makes the person Seeinghope Mar 2016 #192

List of US foreign internentions from the book "Killing Hope" Baobab Mar 2016 #36

Wow, thanks. You know Bernie voted for some of this don't you? misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #40

Sadly incomplete! AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #63

That's all I got out of it too. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #4

The warmongers won't like that. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #5

Not enough war for you in his foreign policy? Not enough dead bodies? Broward Mar 2016 #8

Sanders outlines Middle East policy... Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #9

He likes the Sandinistas and Castros. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #10

Oh ya, Fidel & Putin misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #14

Care to back that up or just posting the 1st thing to cross your mind? think Mar 2016 #21

It was all over the news when he was campaigning in FL. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #37

I don't think Bernie bothered to comradebillyboy Mar 2016 #46

The OP said Bernie sounds like Castro and the Sandinistas. You are confusing his discussion of think Mar 2016 #48

Did you read the OP? Maybe you are reading another post or OP. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #69

It's about judgment. Bernie has good judgment. Clinton has a neocon brain. CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #13

And Kissinger is a confidante. Broward Mar 2016 #18

Don't forget Sydney Blumenthal CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #24

Yep, just about everyone on DU got the call on the Iraq War right. Broward Mar 2016 #30

ha.. bernie has no judgement. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #22

You really should enlight yourself and read the neocon blueprint. CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #34

You laid it out very well. boobooday Mar 2016 #184

Great post, CoffeeCat. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #190

Hillary's will be on the docket soon. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #35

Libya...Syria....Honduras...Iraq... Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #122

One Trick Pony noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #16

He actually has some pretty interesting logical things to say about foreign policy. Seeinghope Mar 2016 #111

When was the last time you saw a candidate speak the truth about Saudi Arabia like Bernie did? Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #161

Exactly!!!! He laid it out for all to see if they want to look Seeinghope Mar 2016 #189

Meanwhile Hillary can't really run on her foreign policy experience NWCorona Mar 2016 #19

More likely she's running from it. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #20

Truth! NWCorona Mar 2016 #26

check out America sometime reddread Mar 2016 #23

Avoiding war is a pretty good trick hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #27

Like bombing Kosovo and military action in Afghanistan? Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #70

Do you wish to discuss it? hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #71

However, Hillary is a many trick pony. See Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Honduras for examples. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #28

Eh, he seems easily the most similar to Obama geek tragedy Mar 2016 #32

Bernie Sanders' foreign policy speech in Salt Lake City, Utah (3-21-16) DianaForRussFeingold Mar 2016 #39

I've sent money to Russ - I might change my moniker - MaryForRussFeingold snowy owl Mar 2016 #53

Whereas Hillary has a broad range of failure. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #42

My response is that this doesn't deserve a response. Total ignorance. snowy owl Mar 2016 #43

Diplomacy Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #44

You need more trick ponies to violate the FOIA to promote a belligerent hawkish policy Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #45

One-trick pony... Single issue candidate... OZi Mar 2016 #54

Wow. A 3-sentence OP about a mythical pony. dchill Mar 2016 #55

Speaking of one-trick ponies, Randy, .... HERVEPA Mar 2016 #56

Lol EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #59

A Hillary supporter attacking Bernie Sanders on foreign policy??? AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #62

The Iraq response is basically Sanders attempting to make the Obama lighting strike twice. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #64

Better than Hillary's which is simply bomb them. nt revbones Mar 2016 #65

Ah, a Soviet mention. Trying to edge back up to that whole 'Jewish question' so soon in Camp Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #66

What does that have to do with religion? RandySF Mar 2016 #67

I'd kind of like to know, myself. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #80

Red baiting often has antisemitic underpinnings. There is no longer a Soviet Union to find on our Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #186

Then just come out and call me an anti-Semite RandySF Mar 2016 #187

Would I be correct in saying that your post infers that you are more ladjf Mar 2016 #68

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #72

Warmongers gonna hate. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #77

Pot, kettle. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #81

I'm for war?? polly7 Mar 2016 #82

You've never seen an authoritarian anti-Western strongman you didn't like. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #84

Wtf are you blabbering about??? polly7 Mar 2016 #85

Polly, if you think people are going to believe you don't have this kind of history, NuclearDem Mar 2016 #86

I've never apologized for Assad, Putin or anyone else, so don't lie. polly7 Mar 2016 #87

Yes, you have. You're fooling nobody. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #88

No, I haven't. Wow, you are so desperate. polly7 Mar 2016 #89

You know what, I started looking. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #92

Post it!!! polly7 Mar 2016 #93

Yes, you have. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #98

You're sick. polly7 Mar 2016 #100

Molotov-Ribbentrop apologia is sick. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #101

I skimmed it. polly7 Mar 2016 #105

Molotov-Ribbentrop apologia is sick, Polly. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #108

Your accusations against me and your war apologia are sick. I'll leave it at that. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #110

What war apologia would that be, Polly? NuclearDem Mar 2016 #123

It's plain to see. polly7 Mar 2016 #125

Ukraine wasn't a coup. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #136

Sure it was. polly7 Mar 2016 #138

"Maybe you need to talk about it with someone easily fooled." NuclearDem Mar 2016 #143

No, you're in no way interesting. That is the last thing I'd call you. But try with someone polly7 Mar 2016 #144

Despite how I may appear right now, NuclearDem Mar 2016 #150

I believe you certainly do. You're insulting, lying and being completely disgusting polly7 Mar 2016 #152

Wow, you totally nailed it. R B Garr Mar 2016 #115

Wow, he/she lied. And here you are, yet again rushing in with your one-line yammering. polly7 Mar 2016 #117

Totally nailed it. Sorry. I've even see you lamenting R B Garr Mar 2016 #120

I wouldn't stand by and let a dog be sodomized with a bayonet and tortured in the polly7 Mar 2016 #121

Then you admit that NuclearDem's post was accurate. R B Garr Mar 2016 #126

I admit that you're just another lying warmonger. That's accurate. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #127

It starts at post 86. You should read it again. R B Garr Mar 2016 #130

I did totally nail it. polly7 Mar 2016 #131

NuclearDem totally nailed it. Right here. Starting at post 86. R B Garr Mar 2016 #132

I don't read bullshit twice. The smell is bad enough the first time. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #133

That's why I posted to NuclearDem that they totally nailed you. R B Garr Mar 2016 #145

Your jibberish doesn't make much sense. You keep talking about nails. ??? polly7 Mar 2016 #147

Figures of speech are not for everyone. That's why I posted to NuclearDem and R B Garr Mar 2016 #149

Certainly not for you. I accept your admission. polly7 Mar 2016 #151

And thank you for acknowledging that you had nothing to say to me, R B Garr Mar 2016 #153

I actually never have anything to say to you when you swoop in with your nothings polly7 Mar 2016 #155

Yes, it's obvious that you have nothing to say, but you post something anyway. R B Garr Mar 2016 #157

Fuck you're boring. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #159

I remember when The Magistrate totally nailed you, too. R B Garr Mar 2016 #166

What are you yammering about now?? nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #167

That's what I thought when I read your responses to The Magistrate... R B Garr Mar 2016 #171

You are really, really boring and actually quite sad. Bat signal says learn more about polly7 Mar 2016 #173

I've read enough of the responses to see that you are a hypocrite. R B Garr Mar 2016 #175

I've read enough from you to see that you're a liar. Every single time you swoop polly7 Mar 2016 #176

You were insulting to a great poster like The Magistrate, too. R B Garr Mar 2016 #177

He was insulting to me. I respond with how I was addressed. Exactly as in this thread by polly7 Mar 2016 #178

Ah, now we see how this works. You do know exactly what I was talking about, but R B Garr Mar 2016 #179

You don't even make sense with your blabber. polly7 Mar 2016 #180

This is a pattern, though. You obviously know who and what I was talking about, R B Garr Mar 2016 #183

Yeah, he did. His passive aggressive bullshit he thought was so brilliant went on for hours. polly7 Mar 2016 #185

I don't think so, at least not before the Putin signal went out CreekDog Mar 2016 #128

Pootie, Pootie, Pootie!!! polly7 Mar 2016 #129

why do you hate Putin and his actions? CreekDog Mar 2016 #90

Why do you hate the Easter bunny and his eggs? nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #91

why are you such a harsh critic of Putin? CreekDog Mar 2016 #94

I''ve never talked about Putin. polly7 Mar 2016 #95

Yes, you have talked about Putin, here, let me remind you CreekDog Mar 2016 #103

OMG!!! Horrible. polly7 Mar 2016 #104

You just said you never talk about Putin CreekDog Mar 2016 #106

Apparently I never cared that much to talk about him as you had to search polly7 Mar 2016 #107

you post so much about Putin and Russia that it's hard to figure out what to choose from your posts CreekDog Mar 2016 #112

And you lie ...................... a lot!!!! Which makes you a ......... LIAR! nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #113

you can call me whatever you want, but why do you hate Putin so much? CreekDog Mar 2016 #114

I think you might need some help. You're either hallucinating, or just so desperate polly7 Mar 2016 #116

i didn't defend any foreign policy, i tried to figure out why you are so against Putin's CreekDog Mar 2016 #118

I'm against any foreign policy that ruins the lives of millions and kills, mutilates and makes polly7 Mar 2016 #119

No, you're just another run-of-the-mill contrarian strongman UI. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #139

No, I'm just a perfectly normal person who hates lying, needless slaughter of innocents. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #140

Aleppo and Chechnya were razed to the ground with peace bombs. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #96

Let me ask you a question, what does the Allende coup have to do with Iraq? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #73

This so richly ironic RandySF Mar 2016 #74

They did not chant "English". think Mar 2016 #78

My personal one trick pony says: panader0 Mar 2016 #75

Yeah ......... diplomacy is always better than killing small children. Millions agree with him. nt polly7 Mar 2016 #76

Bernie Foreign Policy is simple Lenonism - John Lennon. Give peace a chance. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #79

I got much more from his interview with CNN than just Iraq. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #83

Hmmm - he said a heckuva a lot more than that tonite on CNN. Guess you weren't listening. jillan Mar 2016 #97

Do you really pay attention? snowy owl Mar 2016 #99

It must have been that traumatic experience he had HassleCat Mar 2016 #102

Tulsi Gabbard endorsed him because his Syria policy isn't batshit crazy like Hillary's jfern Mar 2016 #109

Looks like we got ourselves here a one trick poster. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #124

Yes, while Hillary has Iraq, Honduras, Libya, Syria. .. CentralMass Mar 2016 #134

Why do you love Putin?!?!?!?!? polly7 Mar 2016 #135

Yeah I have no idea what is going on upthread about that. Appears to be some bullying JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #141

It's just the normal defense of the indefensible using strawmen/boogeymen to do it with. polly7 Mar 2016 #142

Rank hypocrisy tends to flummox me slightly. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #146

Anti-suffering/needless death seems to flummox you greatly. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #148

Oh, I'm planning on putting an end to some suffering right now. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #154

Good. Maybe you'll wake up with hope for humanity. Bonne nuit! nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #156

polly7 never said what you claimed about Poland. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #158

Thank you! I also pointed out that I appreciated the thoughtful replies it got. polly7 Mar 2016 #163

No, because nothing I've read from you here would give me that impression. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #164

With 'her!. With 'you' it's always the same old crap. polly7 Mar 2016 #165

The poster is so dishonest about something so important. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #137

Bernie's vision involves a lot less war...how is that a bad thing? Ken Burch Mar 2016 #160

HRC's foreign policy is based on the delusion that war can somehow be feminist and progressive. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #162

His one trick is not to vote for a war that Hillary was completely fooled about. Perogie Mar 2016 #168

Guess you didn't know that it's not the Soviet Union anymore. Perogie Mar 2016 #169

Stumping for an illegal war based on trumped-up intel should Marr Mar 2016 #174

The one trick is called war, and Clinton is the ungulate performing it. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #182

Yes. His trick is DEMOCRACY. Octafish Mar 2016 #188

Bernie's vision for the future does not involve more unending wars, as Hillary's "vision" does. Autumn Mar 2016 #191

It's not a trick. Orsino Mar 2016 #193