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Peace Patriot

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39. This reminds me of a little blip in the 'news' about Blackwater that I saw...
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 10:20 PM
Mar 2016

...circa 2010 (Clinton was Sec of State) that quickly disappeared from the 'news' and I never saw it again. There wasn't much but what there was set my alarm bells ringing, cuz I was following events in South America very closely at the time. It went like this (I remember some of the exact wording): Blackwater was being fined by the U.S. State Department for "unauthorized trainings of foreign persons in Colombia for use in Iraq and Afghanistan." I also seem to recall that the fine was a slap on the hand.

A lot of resonant items in this disappeared 'news':

--training "foreign persons"
--training them IN COLOMBIA
--"for use in Iraq and Afghanistan"!
--"unauthorized".

There were many murders including mass murders occurring in Colombia at the time, fueled by $7 BILLION U.S. tax dollars to the Colombian military, in a country overseen by a 'mafia don' president (Alvaro Uribe), pal of Bush Jr. About a hundred of Uribe's closest associates, including family members, are in jail or under investigation for ties to the RW death squads, drug trafficking, arms dealing, illegal domestic spying (likely aided by the Bush junta), election fraud, ponzi schemes and other crimes. Also, the Colombian military was hit with a scandal of atrocious proportions at that time: they would lure young men with promises of jobs, murder them, and dress their bodies up like leftist guerrillas, to up their body counts, to earn bonuses and to impress U.S. senators.

So, in this cauldron of bloodshed and depravity, Blackwater was "training foreign persons" "for use in Iraq and Afghanistan," and all that happened to them, at the hands of Sec of State Clinton for failing to hold a State Dept. permit for whatever they were actually doing in Colombia, was a small fine.

The Colombian military and their closely tied RW death squads were driving 50 MILLION Colombian peasants from their small farms--killing and brutalizing many, poisoning their children, their animals and their food crops with aerial spraying of some Monsanto crap or other, and destroying their lives and communities--I figure to create a slave labor force in the cities for "free trade for the rich."

My guess as to what Blackwater was actually doing was engaging in "turkey shoots" of the peasants--maybe even participating in mass murders--to harden their "trainees" for similar shooting in Iraq and Afghanistan. (There was a particularly bad mass grave found in La Macarena, Colombia, during this period. U.S. military base nearby. USAID plan being implemented for "pacifying" the area. (Very similar to such plans in Afghanistan.) But whether this is true or not--that Blackwater was killing peasants, like the Colombian military was doing and like their RW death squads were doing--it's just my guess at the level of atrocity they are capable of--Colombia certainly presented ideal U.S.-fostered conditions for the "training" of private armies.

I mostly blamed the Bush junta for this rogue army's murky operations in Colombia, and thought, at the time, that Clinton was merely covering it up, like everything about Bush junta crimes was being covered up. Bush and particularly Rumsfeld were involved in some really dark dealings in Colombia, including dirty tricks trying to get the presidents of Venezuela and Ecuador accused of terrorism, promotion of war between the U.S./Colombia and Venezuela/Ecuador, murderous sabotage of early peace efforts in the Colombia civil war and god knows what else. There was a lot to cover up.

But now, when I think of how Clinton handled the fascist military coup in Honduras (she supported it; it was probably originally planned by the Bush junta--it occurred in June 2009)--and in view of the above--I suspect that Clinton was doing more than covering up Bush junta crimes. It is more like she was actively encouraging this rogue army and its crimes, by ensuring no serious consequences.

A bit later in her tenure as Sec of State, Clinton intervened in the Drummond Coal case (relatives of victims murdered by Drummond Coal death squads--that's how they handled their labor problems in Colombia) sued Drummond Coal, an Alabama corporation, in the U.S. and subpoenaed Alvaro Uribe for a deposition. Clinton wrote to the judge urging him not to allow Uribe to be deposed, and hinting that it was a "national security" matter. (The judge did not permit the Uribe deposition.)

More cover up. More impunity for the rich and powerful. More death for the poor--especially the uppity poor, the labor organizing poor, the poor who dare to speak up for themselves and demand their rights as human beings.

I feel the need to add one thing: I think that President Obama is currently trying to undo the damage that Hillary Clinton did to U.S./Latin American relations, when she was Sec of State. The U.S. supported fascist military coup against the elected president of Honduras, in June '09, gravely damaged Obama's state purposed of improving relations. All of Latin America was outraged by that coup and blamed the U.S. (rightfully so). It has taken an unprecedented U.S. presidential trip to Cuba (U.S. non-recognition of Cuba has pissed off LatAm for decades) and John Kerry's support of the Colombia peace talks, to start putting things on a better footing. I applaud them for this. And by this it becomes increasingly clear that it wasn't Obama who messed over Honduras; it was Clinton.

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See Naaman Fletcher's comment on the Blackwater case (#5) here: (11/7/12)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11086782

Some further discussion from my DU Journal: (11/22/10)

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Peace%20Patriot/206
(Much of this post is about Maria Hurtado's escape from Colombia to Panama, when Colombian prosecutors were seeking her testimony about Uribe's illegal domestic spying. She was Uribe's spy chief.)

Holy shit! People better wake the fuck up to who HRC really is. berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #1
I'm sure that Trump has it all ready to go. grasswire Mar 2016 #3
How much did Prince donate to the Opelousas' Charity Ball - i.e., the Clinton Foundation yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #9
Another good point that counters the fallacy that Hillary's been vetted berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #12
Good question, how much? leveymg Mar 2016 #13
I'll bet Trump will let us know if they face in the General yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #14
watching her today, I think she probably does have health reasons. grasswire Mar 2016 #29
I thought so as well yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #33
It's tough, no doubt. anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #105
And will. anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #104
This is unbelievable UglyGreed Mar 2016 #4
I'm edging towards that thought. Fairgo Mar 2016 #11
that was poetic :-) grasswire Mar 2016 #30
I just call it Bushian senz Mar 2016 #84
"Out Damn'd Spot!" -- Lady Hillary anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #102
The fix is in with corporate media. There's not enough time to get the truth out to enough people. RiverLover Mar 2016 #10
The fix may indeed be in but there seems to be a continual drip, drip, drip of information on this Samantha Mar 2016 #43
Let us hope it's not too late!!!!! yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #15
This May Help... CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #27
Clinton supporters don't care. 840high Mar 2016 #77
This is one face of Hillary Clinton. PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #90
OMG grasswire Mar 2016 #2
Each day new corruption is discovered. 840high Mar 2016 #40
More wingerish sounding noise, this kind immunizes her against the rest of the RW noise machine caus uponit7771 Mar 2016 #5
Completely irresponsible response to a serious topic berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #19
I agree, its irresponsible to continue winger memes uponit7771 Mar 2016 #20
Calling out Blackwater is now RW? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #45
Now that we know that Erik Prince was one of Hillary's buddies, it is. BFFF. Get with the program! leveymg Mar 2016 #51
This is insane. I'm only old enough to be voting in my 3rd presidential election this year but Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #52
You're being told to be a good German leveymg Mar 2016 #54
it was my 3rd prez election when i voted for Clinton in 92 nashville_brook Mar 2016 #79
+1 Marr Mar 2016 #94
+1 G_j Mar 2016 #97
This is all so unbelievably craven and disgusting. polly7 Mar 2016 #57
If you really want to be appalled, read '07 Salon article by Blumenthal about Blackwater in Iraq. leveymg Mar 2016 #61
Thanks for this, leveymg. polly7 Mar 2016 #62
Blackwater and Prince are even worse than you may think. Read this leveymg Mar 2016 #64
Thanks again, I will definitely read this. I'm pretty sure I know 'why' to your questions but polly7 Mar 2016 #72
She is blood thirsty and it was on display at AIPAC anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #106
FACTS? TRUTH? JUDGEMENT? Who Cares? CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #83
Wait till Trump starts. Now go away. 840high Mar 2016 #41
I'm so old Fumesucker Mar 2016 #44
ah yes. the good old days. nashville_brook Mar 2016 #80
So now long-respected journalists like Jeremy Scahill are wingers and Blackwater is good? Armstead Mar 2016 #55
It seems like your definition of 'right-wing' is Marr Mar 2016 #93
Most of this stuff was long before Hillary was SOS..Bush Cheney stuff. Carry over to Clinton SOS. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #6
No, these contracts with the State Dept continued under Hillary while BW was under new criminal leveymg Mar 2016 #7
"continued under..." so they did start before her right? tia uponit7771 Mar 2016 #21
Are you really defending this stuff? panader0 Mar 2016 #37
Prince's Libya ITAR problems started under Clinton, who created the opportunity for BW to play there leveymg Mar 2016 #53
Clinton was not obligated to continue employing BW and she certainly wasn't obligated to Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #46
Since she is not responsible for anything, anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #103
And of course the founder of blackwater is under investigation for spying for the Chinese NWCorona Mar 2016 #8
More of HRC's foreign policy experience. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #16
This is the outfit that has been involved in child sex trafficking in Afghanistan Ash_F Mar 2016 #17
Good god .... I think I'm going to be sick. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #24
A similar organization, Dyncorp, did the same. Leaked by Chelsea Manning Ash_F Mar 2016 #25
Thanks for that link Ash_F. I had read of Dyncorp's escapades, but always learn polly7 Mar 2016 #58
The Republicans are sitting on a mountain of Hillary oppo research riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #18
Damn. AzDar Mar 2016 #22
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #23
Yep, yet ANOTHER reason I will NEVER vote for HRC. If younguys push her to be our nom, then peacebird Mar 2016 #26
Jumping Jeezus. k/r AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #28
Is anyone on our Democratic side keeping an index of the corruption? grasswire Mar 2016 #31
Me. nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #63
Hmm... think Mar 2016 #32
K&R and let's hope this gets wide exposure! amborin Mar 2016 #34
Wish the Inspector General was able to look into that except there was no IG to look... Octafish Mar 2016 #35
that deserves to be an OP, Octa. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #38
Yes. 840high Mar 2016 #42
IG Clouseau Octafish Mar 2016 #68
Thanks, grasswire! It was a few weeks back... Octafish Mar 2016 #67
this keeps getting worse by the minute amborin Mar 2016 #65
Thanks for the additional information /nt think Mar 2016 #66
yes, this should be an OP nashville_brook Mar 2016 #81
he has a long bad history: amborin Mar 2016 #36
Thank you for that specific data on Prince's contribution to Bill and Hillary's pay to play leveymg Mar 2016 #49
I wonder if she hadn't had those private servers and had to go through regular polly7 Mar 2016 #59
Eric Prince donates to the Clinton Foundation ... KoKo Mar 2016 #76
This reminds me of a little blip in the 'news' about Blackwater that I saw... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #39
Thank you so much ....... what a lot of great information. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #60
Conspiracy! DanTex Mar 2016 #47
No, just another day down at Foggy Bottom for Madam Secretary. leveymg Mar 2016 #50
That DUer's specialty seems to be posting that word as a warning. Octafish Mar 2016 #69
Actually, conspiracy is an included crime at 18 USC Sec. 793 (g). leveymg Mar 2016 #70
Thus, the Deferred Prosecution settlement. Octafish Mar 2016 #88
Frontier Services Group (FSG) kind of reminds me of this outfit, and its chief security contractor leveymg Mar 2016 #89
THREE G.I. Joe head scars!!! Octafish Mar 2016 #91
Can you imagine the trouble this guy would be getting into without things to keep him busy? leveymg Mar 2016 #92
Gott mit GOP Octafish Mar 2016 #96
I miss Mae. And, yes, Generalismo Francisco Franco is still dead. leveymg Mar 2016 #101
This is what it means to be a practical Democrat. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #48
wake up, people, wake up! kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #56
What won't this woman do? Anything? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #71
Quit beating this dead horse. Hillary has been investigated for ethics countless times. Scuba Mar 2016 #73
Dry, very dry. leveymg Mar 2016 #75
Good one. +1 Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #78
This bunch are just war profiteers. So sad. Neocons and Hillary. ViseGrip Mar 2016 #74
Prince was also major funder of RW causes unc70 Mar 2016 #82
The gift that keeps on giving. nt leveymg Mar 2016 #85
Blackwater is a pos right wing company. rockfordfile Mar 2016 #99
K&R SMC22307 Mar 2016 #86
BLACKWATER. John Poet Mar 2016 #87
Subs DemocraticSocialist8 Mar 2016 #95
Trump's foreign policy advisor is ex-Blackwater Octafish Mar 2016 #98
So was Romney's - Cofer Black leveymg Mar 2016 #100
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