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leveymg

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61. If you really want to be appalled, read '07 Salon article by Blumenthal about Blackwater in Iraq.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:42 AM
Mar 2016

There's nothing as disgusting as selective outrage and hypocrisy by those who condemn the players and then turn around and join the game at first opportunity. That is exactly what Sid appears to have done when Hillary created the opportunity for contractor fun and profit in Libya. Hillary's message to him, "Keep it coming."

Thursday, Oct 4, 2007 07:08 AM EST

http://www.salon.com/2007/10/04/private_military_in_iraq/

Red, white and mercenary in Iraq

Under the cloak of freedom, the U.S. exempted Blackwater and other contractors from Iraqi law -- and destroyed its own democratic credibility.
Sidney Blumenthal


On June 27, 2004, the day before the United States was to grant sovereignty to a new Iraqi government and disband the Coalition Provisional Authority, L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. proconsul, issued a stunning new order. One of the final acts of the CPA, Order 17 declared that foreign contractors within Iraq, including private military firms, would not be subject to any Iraqi laws — “all International Consultants shall be immune from Iraqi legal process,” it read. “Congratulations to the new Iraq!” Bremer said moments before flying out. His memoir, “My Year in Iraq,” neglects to mention Order 17.
The author of Order 17 was a CPA official named Lawrence Peter, who oversaw the Iraqi Ministry of Interior. As soon as the CPA was dissolved, the Private Security Company Association of Iraq hired Peter to act as its liaison and lobbyist there. The new Iraq included a revolving door.

Thus, in the process of granting Iraq sovereignty, the Bush administration eviscerated it. Order 17’s grant of immunity to contractors guaranteed that more than half of the foreign presence on the ground — for U.S.-paid contractors outnumber U.S. military personnel — would operate for all intents and purposes beyond the law. Order 17 also undercut the authority of the U.S. military, frustrating command and control of the battlefield and upsetting sensitive counterinsurgency strategies. Order 17 meant that the monopoly of violence was fractured and outsourced to those not subject to the law. By unilateral fiat Order 17 uniquely created a red zone of impunity covering the entire country.

A radical break with U.S. policy, such an order had never been promulgated before. Order 17 should not be confused with a Status of Force Agreement negotiated with sovereign nations such as South Korea. Those agreements are subject to complex bargaining and mutual assurance. Nor are contractors subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice because, after all, they are not in the U.S. military. Nor has the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act of 2000 been brought to bear on contractors in Iraq. That act applies only to those working for the Department of Defense and is rarely used, if at all. The contracts for private military firms have been funneled through the State Department, thereby exempting them from the MEJA. (The only case brought under the MEJA against a contractor in Iraq was for one who had raped a U.S. reservist in her trailer.)

Of the mercenary companies, Blackwater has earned a special status as one of the least controllable and most aggressive, ferrying through the battle space without coordination with U.S. forces. Time and again, Blackwater has triggered incidents undermining U.S. strategies and endangering military forces. In 2004, four Blackwater men brazenly drove through the insecure city of Fallujah, were quickly cornered by a mob, were killed and burned, and their charred bodies hung from a bridge. In the ensuing outcry, U.S. forces were ordered to encircle the city, attack, withdraw and attack again, eventually leveling it. In 2006, a drunken Blackwater mercenary murdered a bodyguard for the Iraqi vice president, and was spirited out of the country with U.S. Embassy complicity, paid off and never prosecuted. Under Order 17, no law applied.
Holy shit! People better wake the fuck up to who HRC really is. berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #1
I'm sure that Trump has it all ready to go. grasswire Mar 2016 #3
How much did Prince donate to the Opelousas' Charity Ball - i.e., the Clinton Foundation yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #9
Another good point that counters the fallacy that Hillary's been vetted berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #12
Good question, how much? leveymg Mar 2016 #13
I'll bet Trump will let us know if they face in the General yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #14
watching her today, I think she probably does have health reasons. grasswire Mar 2016 #29
I thought so as well yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #33
It's tough, no doubt. anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #105
And will. anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #104
This is unbelievable UglyGreed Mar 2016 #4
I'm edging towards that thought. Fairgo Mar 2016 #11
that was poetic :-) grasswire Mar 2016 #30
I just call it Bushian senz Mar 2016 #84
"Out Damn'd Spot!" -- Lady Hillary anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #102
The fix is in with corporate media. There's not enough time to get the truth out to enough people. RiverLover Mar 2016 #10
The fix may indeed be in but there seems to be a continual drip, drip, drip of information on this Samantha Mar 2016 #43
Let us hope it's not too late!!!!! yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #15
This May Help... CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #27
Clinton supporters don't care. 840high Mar 2016 #77
This is one face of Hillary Clinton. PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #90
OMG grasswire Mar 2016 #2
Each day new corruption is discovered. 840high Mar 2016 #40
More wingerish sounding noise, this kind immunizes her against the rest of the RW noise machine caus uponit7771 Mar 2016 #5
Completely irresponsible response to a serious topic berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #19
I agree, its irresponsible to continue winger memes uponit7771 Mar 2016 #20
Calling out Blackwater is now RW? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #45
Now that we know that Erik Prince was one of Hillary's buddies, it is. BFFF. Get with the program! leveymg Mar 2016 #51
This is insane. I'm only old enough to be voting in my 3rd presidential election this year but Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #52
You're being told to be a good German leveymg Mar 2016 #54
it was my 3rd prez election when i voted for Clinton in 92 nashville_brook Mar 2016 #79
+1 Marr Mar 2016 #94
+1 G_j Mar 2016 #97
This is all so unbelievably craven and disgusting. polly7 Mar 2016 #57
If you really want to be appalled, read '07 Salon article by Blumenthal about Blackwater in Iraq. leveymg Mar 2016 #61
Thanks for this, leveymg. polly7 Mar 2016 #62
Blackwater and Prince are even worse than you may think. Read this leveymg Mar 2016 #64
Thanks again, I will definitely read this. I'm pretty sure I know 'why' to your questions but polly7 Mar 2016 #72
She is blood thirsty and it was on display at AIPAC anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #106
FACTS? TRUTH? JUDGEMENT? Who Cares? CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #83
Wait till Trump starts. Now go away. 840high Mar 2016 #41
I'm so old Fumesucker Mar 2016 #44
ah yes. the good old days. nashville_brook Mar 2016 #80
So now long-respected journalists like Jeremy Scahill are wingers and Blackwater is good? Armstead Mar 2016 #55
It seems like your definition of 'right-wing' is Marr Mar 2016 #93
Most of this stuff was long before Hillary was SOS..Bush Cheney stuff. Carry over to Clinton SOS. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #6
No, these contracts with the State Dept continued under Hillary while BW was under new criminal leveymg Mar 2016 #7
"continued under..." so they did start before her right? tia uponit7771 Mar 2016 #21
Are you really defending this stuff? panader0 Mar 2016 #37
Prince's Libya ITAR problems started under Clinton, who created the opportunity for BW to play there leveymg Mar 2016 #53
Clinton was not obligated to continue employing BW and she certainly wasn't obligated to Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #46
Since she is not responsible for anything, anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #103
And of course the founder of blackwater is under investigation for spying for the Chinese NWCorona Mar 2016 #8
More of HRC's foreign policy experience. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #16
This is the outfit that has been involved in child sex trafficking in Afghanistan Ash_F Mar 2016 #17
Good god .... I think I'm going to be sick. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #24
A similar organization, Dyncorp, did the same. Leaked by Chelsea Manning Ash_F Mar 2016 #25
Thanks for that link Ash_F. I had read of Dyncorp's escapades, but always learn polly7 Mar 2016 #58
The Republicans are sitting on a mountain of Hillary oppo research riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #18
Damn. AzDar Mar 2016 #22
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #23
Yep, yet ANOTHER reason I will NEVER vote for HRC. If younguys push her to be our nom, then peacebird Mar 2016 #26
Jumping Jeezus. k/r AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #28
Is anyone on our Democratic side keeping an index of the corruption? grasswire Mar 2016 #31
Me. nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #63
Hmm... think Mar 2016 #32
K&R and let's hope this gets wide exposure! amborin Mar 2016 #34
Wish the Inspector General was able to look into that except there was no IG to look... Octafish Mar 2016 #35
that deserves to be an OP, Octa. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #38
Yes. 840high Mar 2016 #42
IG Clouseau Octafish Mar 2016 #68
Thanks, grasswire! It was a few weeks back... Octafish Mar 2016 #67
this keeps getting worse by the minute amborin Mar 2016 #65
Thanks for the additional information /nt think Mar 2016 #66
yes, this should be an OP nashville_brook Mar 2016 #81
he has a long bad history: amborin Mar 2016 #36
Thank you for that specific data on Prince's contribution to Bill and Hillary's pay to play leveymg Mar 2016 #49
I wonder if she hadn't had those private servers and had to go through regular polly7 Mar 2016 #59
Eric Prince donates to the Clinton Foundation ... KoKo Mar 2016 #76
This reminds me of a little blip in the 'news' about Blackwater that I saw... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #39
Thank you so much ....... what a lot of great information. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #60
Conspiracy! DanTex Mar 2016 #47
No, just another day down at Foggy Bottom for Madam Secretary. leveymg Mar 2016 #50
That DUer's specialty seems to be posting that word as a warning. Octafish Mar 2016 #69
Actually, conspiracy is an included crime at 18 USC Sec. 793 (g). leveymg Mar 2016 #70
Thus, the Deferred Prosecution settlement. Octafish Mar 2016 #88
Frontier Services Group (FSG) kind of reminds me of this outfit, and its chief security contractor leveymg Mar 2016 #89
THREE G.I. Joe head scars!!! Octafish Mar 2016 #91
Can you imagine the trouble this guy would be getting into without things to keep him busy? leveymg Mar 2016 #92
Gott mit GOP Octafish Mar 2016 #96
I miss Mae. And, yes, Generalismo Francisco Franco is still dead. leveymg Mar 2016 #101
This is what it means to be a practical Democrat. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #48
wake up, people, wake up! kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #56
What won't this woman do? Anything? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #71
Quit beating this dead horse. Hillary has been investigated for ethics countless times. Scuba Mar 2016 #73
Dry, very dry. leveymg Mar 2016 #75
Good one. +1 Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #78
This bunch are just war profiteers. So sad. Neocons and Hillary. ViseGrip Mar 2016 #74
Prince was also major funder of RW causes unc70 Mar 2016 #82
The gift that keeps on giving. nt leveymg Mar 2016 #85
Blackwater is a pos right wing company. rockfordfile Mar 2016 #99
K&R SMC22307 Mar 2016 #86
BLACKWATER. John Poet Mar 2016 #87
Subs DemocraticSocialist8 Mar 2016 #95
Trump's foreign policy advisor is ex-Blackwater Octafish Mar 2016 #98
So was Romney's - Cofer Black leveymg Mar 2016 #100
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