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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Is Hillary Clinton running for Bill Clinton's 3rd term? [View all]Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)91. I think you're right, and I can prove it.
This is a TYT video from May 2011 which I had not seen until this week. I was appalled. Not only because Bill and Ryan were discussing cuts to Medicare, but because it was Bill Clinton doing it.
He was not in office at that time. WTH business was it of his to be discussing ANYTHING about policy? What right did he have to be negotiating with Paul Ryan over cuts to our programs?
I remarked in that thread, "So he's to be the shadow President. Well isn't that a milestone for women?" Clearly this "first woman President" selling point is a fraud. What a great feminist icon, when in reality Hillary would be, and was at that time, a mere front for Bill.
I had NOT thought about the 2-term limit though. That is actually a very interesting question, now that you mention it. This video shows us the sort of thing Bill has been doing. He has been conducting the nation's business surreptitiously using Hillary as a screen. It is not at all unreasonable to expect that he will keep on doing in the future what he has already been doing in the past.
And that isn't the only indicator. Several writers on the email scandal are of the opinion that the private server was used so that Bill could have access to official documents, and have input into her role as Secretary of State. The Blackberry that Hillary was so adamant about having for herself and her staff, kept her in constant contact with her "coach" Bill and his staff.
The email hadn't made any sense to me until I thought about it this way. She had two motivations. One, to keep the Clinton Foundation pay-to-play transactions out of view at the State Department. And two, keeping Bill's participation out of State's view too.
I also have said here before, and I will say again, HRC's prior experience as Senator from New York and as Secretary of State are both offices that she probably would not have gotten if she had not been Bill Clinton's wife.
I don't believe Hillary Clinton has been doing any job on her own. Her own actions and choices have led to this being the most likely objective conclusion.
I think if the Republicans wanted to press this point about Bill's 3rd term, they might get some traction with it, given the video above. I think it's another potential liability, and worse, I think it's the truth of the matter.
It doesn't even need to be a stand-alone scandal, it fills in the gap between the two scandals that are already cooking.
This is my opinion on what the few facts we have now might mean all fitted together. Lots of pieces are not filled in yet, and so of course I could be wrong, but on the other hand I could be right. What all the pieces add up to is...
Hillary Clinton is a huge liability. She needs to withdraw before things get worse.
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Sexism is when you take the most qualified candidate in the election and accuse others of
PeaceNikki
Mar 2016
#44
That is your opinion. I have heard COUNTLESS women want her to win because it is "TIME"
Seeinghope
Mar 2016
#71
I recall all his administration (that I voted for twice) being referred to as the "co presidency".
bobthedrummer
Mar 2016
#3
What a sexist and misogynistic thread. WOW, I don't like these Sanders people at all.
Trust Buster
Mar 2016
#5
What are you talking about? "these Sanders people" understand all the games that used to work.
bobthedrummer
Mar 2016
#13
HRC told US about the VRWC years ago kydo. So what are you talking about? n/t
bobthedrummer
Mar 2016
#14
So you ask if a woman can really do anything that's no for her husband's benefit?
Agnosticsherbet
Mar 2016
#7
Has the courage of your convictions failed you again, auntpur re: alerts? What is "what this is"?
bobthedrummer
Mar 2016
#23
Yes--Obama is still kryptonite for the general election so she's trying to run as Bill-3rd term
TheDormouse
Mar 2016
#19
Bill's, Barack's, W's, H.W."s, Reagan's.. she doesn't care as long as she gets elected.
Motown_Johnny
Mar 2016
#21
I disagree with her being the most qualified or experienced or knowledgeable candidate.
Motown_Johnny
Mar 2016
#49
Those are different alerts - yours is for this thread - the one above was for a different thread by
PeaceNikki
Mar 2016
#62
I can understand the confusion. Both threads are very similar in certain ways.
yardwork
Mar 2016
#67
The question is inherently misogynist, implying that a female president cannot be...
Tarc
Mar 2016
#28
Do you think Bill was "sufficiently separate and independent" of Hillary when he was prez?
jonno99
Mar 2016
#41
You could take Hillary Clinton out and substitute it with Bernie Sanders and all would still be true
Seeinghope
Mar 2016
#78
There are no limitations restrictions or guidelines because there don't need to be any
onenote
Mar 2016
#60
And if Hillary got elected and then died in office would "co-President" Bill still be "President"
onenote
Mar 2016
#82
Sounds like grounds to impeach another Clinton. I'm sure republicans would have thought of this
pampango
Mar 2016
#64
Oh, I didn't know that Bernie Sanders was a previous President of the United States
Seeinghope
Mar 2016
#77