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merrily

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69. She wasn't such a kid, then or when she was President of College Republicans.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

Here's the chrono (Her birthday is October 26, shortly before election day. )

Canvassed for Nixon at 13

Goldwater Girl at 17 (I knew better by 17-18, didn't you?)

President of College Republicans at Wellesley, ages18-21--probably would have been hard to find a more liberal school in the country, then, too.

Now here is where I begin to question/doubt her version.

Went to the Republican convention at age 21 (1968) and supposedly supported Rockefeller, probably the most liberal Republican running (or imaginable). He had tried for the nom in 1960, 1964, too. but she had supported the considerably more conservative candidates those years. So I tend to question whether she supported Rockefeller in 1968, or one of the more conservative candidates, like Nixon, for whom she had canvassed at 13, or Reagan. But, o.k, let's give her Rockefeller, just for grins and giggles.

Next, she was shocked, shocked, I tell you, to hear racist comments at the Republican convention and immediately turned Democrat, supporting Eugene McCarthy (Which means she was already a Democrat and a relatively liberal one, to boot, before she met Bubba in law school--I don't buy that at all.) This means she had never heard racist comments from Republicans while working for Nixon or Jim Crow defender, er I mean, states rights defender, Goldwater. That seems so implausible to me. It also seems implausible to me that she immediately decided that Democrats must not be racist. After all, in 1968, there were plenty of racists in both parties and Johnson had certainly needed Republicans to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964 while those who had filibustered it were Democrats. For me, her story, while full of drama and sympathetic principles simply does not seem plausible.

The following year, she made a graduation speech. I had read that he speech dissed Republican Massachusetts Senator Brooke, the invited graduation speaker. I've read the speech. At most, it compared her generation, just starting out, with his. No dissing of him personally in any way, no dissing him over his being a Republican and no dissing of Republicans. She was,after all, the outgoing President of College Republicans at the time.

The next school year, she met Bubba in law school. IMO, that is when she became a Democrat, not when she was at the 1968 Republican National Convention. In 1985, they, together with people like Warner, Gore, Lieberman, etc. founded the DLC. She accompanied Al From to Europe, to spread the DLC gospel to European politicians. Blair was probably their biggest success.

In recent years, at various points she has said (1) her politics are rooted in the conservatism (read, Republican conservatism) in which she was raised; (2) she is a moderate; and (3) she is a progressive. However, recently, she bristled and corrected Matthews when he called her a liberal. I see that as her trying to be (almost) all things to all people. Others may find that all three of those descriptions apply truthfully to her.

Red-baiting is so unattractive...n/t Merryland Mar 2016 #1
When your candidate is corrupt and the opponent is not, it's all you have... nt revbones Mar 2016 #33
Or the Liberty Union party? Or his socialist idol Eugene V Debs? DanTex Mar 2016 #2
Quite a few of us cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #6
Sure, but the American electorate, not so much. DanTex Mar 2016 #10
Because the American electorate is uninformed. dogman Mar 2016 #17
From what I've seen, it's the Bernie following that is woefully uninformed. DanTex Mar 2016 #18
Because we don't but this right wing tripe? dogman Mar 2016 #24
The only right-wing tripe I see on DU are links to the Weekly Standard and WaTimes DanTex Mar 2016 #38
I've seen HC supporters link to anti-Semitic articles, a Holocaust denier's website and Stormfront. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #40
That happened, what, once? Twice? A couple PPRed trolls? DanTex Mar 2016 #94
Nope they're still here, and once is one too many times. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #95
I agree, one link to Stormfront is too many times. DanTex Mar 2016 #96
Thanks, Dan. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #97
And I'm glad you don't post the link. Don't do it. DanTex Mar 2016 #98
We don't have the luxury of linking to bought-and-paid-for propaganda outlets.. frylock Mar 2016 #91
Really? That's your excuse? DanTex Mar 2016 #93
Oh, Dan. frylock Mar 2016 #99
The usual Bernie fan dodge. DanTex Mar 2016 #100
What's your excuse, Dan? frylock Mar 2016 #103
"woefully uninformed" seems to be more a slam against Hillary followers revbones Mar 2016 #35
Corruption? I see that over and over. Where is the proof redstateblues Mar 2016 #39
Sure. revbones Mar 2016 #47
Follow the money. dogman Mar 2016 #54
That's no proof. Just a smear redstateblues Mar 2016 #62
It's common sense. dogman Mar 2016 #64
Still waiting redstateblues Mar 2016 #66
Where does her money come from? dogman Mar 2016 #68
Eugene Debs was a HERO. John Poet Mar 2016 #79
I miss the unrec button. Scuba Mar 2016 #3
We still have the Ignore button and I'm fixin' to use it. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #4
Does that guy EVER say anything positive? Ever? pangaia Mar 2016 #81
No but they might have heard of the democratic socialist of america. Warren Stupidity Mar 2016 #5
Wonder if most Bernie supporters know the difference between a . . . brush Mar 2016 #63
Does the typical Hillary supporter understand the difference between a Democratic Socialist... 99Forever Mar 2016 #7
Oh yes, WE do... auntpurl Mar 2016 #13
No apparently some of you don't. He's been called a commie here many times. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #28
I didn't see "Jew" mentioned in the OP. auntpurl Mar 2016 #29
Trotsky = dog whistle beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #37
Well Hillary followers seem to love right-wing tactics... revbones Mar 2016 #48
Some of them are rabidly anti-Semitic. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #53
It's interesting that they call some of us trolls, etc... revbones Mar 2016 #55
Some of the worst right wing trolls are long time members. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #58
And some of those called Hillary "morally depraved" and "unfit" in 2008. arcane1 Mar 2016 #76
And another called her a "liar". beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #78
BSS threw Jew in there as a straw man redstateblues Mar 2016 #65
Do you know what a dog whistle is? Stop insulting people's intelligence. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #77
Quite clearly you are dead wrong. 99Forever Mar 2016 #44
Probably came directly from David Brock himself. litlbilly Mar 2016 #90
I would have to say no they dont litlbilly Mar 2016 #89
Have folks heard of the Socialist Party USA? stone space Mar 2016 #8
Is that anything like being a Goldwater Girl? nt NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #9
The talking point on that is she was just a kid. NWCorona Mar 2016 #14
She wasn't such a kid, then or when she was President of College Republicans. merrily Mar 2016 #69
lol vintx Mar 2016 #11
Must have hurt his ability to draw parallels, too. merrily Mar 2016 #23
Shhhhhhhh Kalidurga Mar 2016 #12
He's a red Jew now? Have HC supporters been getting tips on red baiting and bigotry from Trump? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #15
I always thought red-baiting was a right-wing thing Merryland Mar 2016 #16
The red Jew slur is a nice touch, I wonder who the op thinks he's fooling? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #19
It is a right wing thing. dogman Mar 2016 #21
It IS a right-wing thing. frylock Mar 2016 #92
Hillary started canvassing for Nixon, not with the DLC. Bernie is a Democratic Socialist. merrily Mar 2016 #20
Not a lot of people know that Hillary canvassed for Nixon Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #87
YAY! Red baiting! TrueDemVA Mar 2016 #22
Bernie voters sure know about UBS. Octafish Mar 2016 #25
^^THIS^^ think Mar 2016 #32
^^BOOM^^ Facts. revbones Mar 2016 #50
wow!! is this an original OP? dana_b Mar 2016 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author imari362 Mar 2016 #72
This. nt vintx Mar 2016 #85
Wrong: it's the Socialist Workers Party... k8conant Mar 2016 #26
Wait Isn;t it the Gwhittey Mar 2016 #61
Another red baiting attempt by Camp Weathervane. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #27
Right-wing tactics are all they have at this point... nt revbones Mar 2016 #52
Da Comrade Chasstev365 Mar 2016 #30
probably not. creon Mar 2016 #31
Typical Bernie voter hasn't heard of cosmicone Mar 2016 #34
Wasn't Mondale the the Dem that ran on raising taxes redstateblues Mar 2016 #42
Mondale and Dukakis were the PICKS of the Democratic establishment, John Poet Mar 2016 #80
My other name is Moisha i never said anything about him being jewish i am MattP Mar 2016 #36
Yeah Moish that's why you use the dog whistles. Red baiting in the US has antisemitism always Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #43
Sanders isn't even a socialist KingFlorez Mar 2016 #41
Wow, Senator McCarthy, I see reports of your death have been greatly exaggerated. Punkingal Mar 2016 #45
He was a elector to a party that wanted solidarity with Iran during HOSTAGE crisis MattP Mar 2016 #46
So now you're suggesting he's disloyal to his country? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #51
A smear from Johnny Alter? dogman Mar 2016 #67
So you agree then beedle Mar 2016 #49
Who cares anymore the cold war is over flamingdem Mar 2016 #56
Nice edit, makes it look like you're just "concerned". beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #57
most of us DO NOT CARE dana_b Mar 2016 #59
straight to my ignore list. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #70
Right, that'll kill him in places like Midwest -oh, wait. suffragette Mar 2016 #71
Hey genius! Yeah, you... Maedhros Mar 2016 #73
Oh Matt: Can you tell me the difference between the following only then I might consider answering dr60omg Mar 2016 #74
Wow. This post is so lame you can't even get a rec from the Clinton supporters arcane1 Mar 2016 #75
I'm shocked actually, I thought at least one person would rec it. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #83
the horrors of socialism Skeeter Barnes Mar 2016 #82
Get with the times seekthetruth Mar 2016 #84
Solidarity with *Nicaragua*?? Well I never! tralala Mar 2016 #86
I invite everyone on my social list to all my grand parties. Lint Head Mar 2016 #88
The good news is that the Republicans would redstateblues Mar 2016 #101
Theme for the Day noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #102
Ahh, nostalgia. The Midway Rebel Mar 2016 #104
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