2016 Postmortem

LWolf

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189. This doesn't bother me in the least.

Reply to ConservativeDemocrat (Original post)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:12 AM

Apr 2016

I've always known that Gore's loss in 2000 was not because of Nader, but because of election fraud.

I've always considered the attacks on Nader voters and supporters to be:

1. Dishonest
2. Denial
3. Slimy

I VOTED FOR GORE IN 2000.

And, at one time, I would have considered your username to be an oxymoron. Not any more, unfortunately, but hopefully we're going to be changing that.

Sarandon? I support her right to support, and speak out in support of, whomever she wishes. That's democratic. It's too bad the party that calls itself by that label doesn't practice democracy.

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All **ANYONE** needs to know about Sarandon, and her fellow travellers [View all] ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 OP

This is the second red baiting thread today, did you lose your way? FreeRepublic is that way ---> beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #1

Democrats are not reds ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #66

You are engaging in right wing tactics that are rooted in anti-Semitism. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #67

No, you're engaging in sophistry to try to evade the point ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #80

LMAO! You're so full of today's poutrage you're lashing out at teh COMMIES!!1! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #88

Are you voting for the Democratic nominee? YES or NO? ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #135

Are you now... beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #139

You didn't answer the question ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #143

Yes I like turtles. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #149

Are you voting for the Democratic nominee? YES or NO? ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #154

Of course n beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #155

Oh! Scottie!!! MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #156

And I'm not ashamed of it either! He can put me on his list! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #158

Are you voting for the Democratic nominee? YES or NO? ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2016 #169

Can't you read? bvf Apr 2016 #172

Good question, I'll have to think about it... beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #173

I think you can buy turtle flavored bullion, that doesn't have any real turtle in it. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #202

Does it come from mock turtles? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #214

I love turtles! Fairgo Apr 2016 #178

It's easy! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #179

Yay! Turtles! Fairgo Apr 2016 #181

Answer the question! Are you gonna vote for a turtle or not!!!! Fuddnik Apr 2016 #203

I'm going to have to check with my fellow testudiniskis. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #210

I'm voting COMMIE! Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #167

No communist is running for the nomination ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2016 #168

There are few things more tedious than a parody that takes Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #171

Indeed. So, Mr. Stupidity, if you're not a Democrat ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2016 #175

Ha! MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #182

Far more of us conservative dems than there are of the kook left ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2016 #196

So, by your phony definition... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #198

No. You're being deliberately disingenuous. ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2016 #199

That's your own myopic definition... Your idea is to convince yourself... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #205

As I said... petulant kook ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2016 #209

This is what you just said.... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #212

Advocate all you want for Sanders ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2016 #213

The John Birch Society's Red Baiting Theme Song.. 2banon Mar 2016 #102

Yes I do and you're right. Did you see who rec'd this right wing red baiting trash? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #105

Do you see who lies about it being "red baiting"? ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #121

Ack! You got me! I am SO busted! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #122

Look at #12 ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #124

... beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #127

I told you never to call me here! Fuddnik Apr 2016 #204

Beam me, I love you!!!! choie Apr 2016 #208

Back atcha, chie! :) beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #211

You have the word Conservative in your handle... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #94

Check out his transparency page. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #96

Yikes Kalidurga Mar 2016 #101

Yeah I don't think Susan is the cause of his rage, just today's target. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #103

I know I am supposed to be intimidated... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #107

Me too! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #108

I only had one brother. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #109

All the 4 to 3 ones? ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #123

I have seen a whole lot of Hillary supporters that don't get hides. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #125

There's a reason Skinner stopped the hide system ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #130

I agree there is abuse. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #133

Musta been a bunch of commies on those juries. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #128

People who have lost their jury privileges ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #134

"I go overboard to be solicitous to people whose opinions are different than mine" beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #138

I would never vote to hide any of your insults of me ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #145

Do I like wombats? Why yes I do! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #150

Tautology Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #162

I'm not sure any of them did Rob H. Apr 2016 #190

It's "often pejorative" because it's RED BAITING Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #161

^^^THAT RIGHT THERE^^^ beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #174

We have a winner! Newkularblue Apr 2016 #201

There's a red under my bed ;) n/t eggman67 Apr 2016 #177

I LOVE THAT SONG!!! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #180

You cite Iraq. Are you supporting Hillary in the primary? Broward Mar 2016 #2

Al Gore won the election... Human101948 Mar 2016 #3

No Nader, no W. DanTex Mar 2016 #5

No SCOTUS, no W. Who helped stack that SCOTUS via witness intimidation and lies about women? Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #12

No Nader no W. Do you disagree? Please answer. DanTex Mar 2016 #13

Yep, he was not the factor, he was a factor but you have this bone you want to gnaw in defense of Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #25

So you agree that no Nader, no Bush? That's what I'm reading. DanTex Mar 2016 #30

Nader is responsible for W's election Gothmog Mar 2016 #77

... AzDar Mar 2016 #35

Nope Lordquinton Mar 2016 #160

So now she's responsible for 9-11 Armstead Mar 2016 #4

Not personally responsible. Just backing a movement that helped bring it and Iraq about. DanTex Mar 2016 #8

I disagree Armstead Mar 2016 #14

If Nader hadn't run, none of it would have happened. Period. DanTex Mar 2016 #17

Yes it would. Period Armstead Mar 2016 #18

Then you're delusional. The vote totals are crystal clear. Nader doesn't run, Gore wins by DanTex Mar 2016 #23

And if Harris and Jeb had not conspired cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #39

True. Also, it Nader hadn't run, there would be no W. DanTex Mar 2016 #42

IF Gore had recounted ALL of Florida he would have won Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #72

There's blame to go around. But: no Nader, no W. DanTex Mar 2016 #73

Blame the Florida Democrats who voted for Bush. SMC22307 Mar 2016 #157

The supreme court stopped the count Buzz cook Mar 2016 #85

Read up Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #89

I was alive at the time. Buzz cook Mar 2016 #98

Gore only asked for the four most Democratic counties be recounted from day 1 Omaha Steve Apr 2016 #215

I also recommend that book by Vincent Bugliosi hrmbaja Mar 2016 #60

Fellow travelers? How very Tail Gunner Joe of you. Full tilt right wing liberal baiting. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #6

Nader most definitely tipped the scales in favor of Bush. Do you deny that? DanTex Mar 2016 #10

I think the SCOTUS handed Bush the election, I think the DNC left votes on the table, far too Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #15

No, no, no. You didn't answer. If not for Nader, W would never have become president, agreed? DanTex Mar 2016 #20

I do not agree with you, you are a simplistic propagandist and need to stop the bully act right now. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #27

Personal insults aside, there's an actual question here. DanTex Mar 2016 #36

You have been answered. You are defending Brownshirt tactics in this thread, expect to be met Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #47

No, you're dodging. You're playing high and mighty but won't answer a simple question. DanTex Mar 2016 #53

Smearing the left, ignoring the right Uponthegears Apr 2016 #186

"if Nader voters had voted against their convictions, Gore would have won." DanTex Apr 2016 #188

No, all I needed to say was Uponthegears Apr 2016 #192

Gore was trying to win, and surely he made some mistakes. DanTex Apr 2016 #193

It wasn't a mistake Uponthegears Apr 2016 #194

You are claiming that supporting Mr. Sanders for the Democratic Party nomination Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #64

Not at all. "Bernie or Bust" equates to supporting Trump. Which is obvious. DanTex Mar 2016 #69

Please re-read my question, try to understand it, and answer it. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #75

I did. The answer was "not at all". Not sure why you're ignoring what I wrote. DanTex Mar 2016 #79

If I understand you, you repeat that support for Mr. Sanders Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #97

Not sure how you get that from "not at all"? Can I make it clearer? DanTex Mar 2016 #99

Why not at least make an attempt at clarity? n/t Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #104

Oh. Its DT. Whatever. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #117

+1000 kristopher Mar 2016 #52

fuckin-a! frylock Mar 2016 #118

BRAVO! FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #184

Just don't tell that to the 1/4 Million Florida Democrats who voted for Bush! TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #40

Sure, I'll tell them. Huh? DanTex Mar 2016 #45

Gotta love people who use Wikipedia as a source, and partial NYT analysis. That gets a C+ TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #48

Those would be conservative Democrats like the OP. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #49

Nader gave Bush the election Gothmog Mar 2016 #57

We should be careful, he said "fellow travellerS". They might be making lists again. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #19

Nader is directly responsible for the loss of Section 5 of the VRA Gothmog Mar 2016 #55

+100,000,000 oasis Apr 2016 #170

I am living in a state suffering from the gutting of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act Gothmog Apr 2016 #183

Or, if the current Chair of the Florida Democratic Party wasn't helping purge Democrats from the rol Fuddnik Apr 2016 #206

Why? fun n serious Mar 2016 #146

"fellow traveler" is red baiting garbage: you should be ashamed TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #7

Wow! Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #116

She's good at picking winners isn't she? livetohike Mar 2016 #9

you mean like David Brock? TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #21

No, I mean exactly what I said. Didn't she back Edwards in 2008? N/t livetohike Mar 2016 #26

so did a LOT of Dems... TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #31

And Edwards voted for the IWR, didn't he? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #197

"Fellow travelers"? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #11

Might as well use Fifth Columnist Armstead Mar 2016 #16

Yeah, the fifties rears its ugly head again. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #22

I'm waiting for them to start calling us Nazis. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #33

Hey look, a conservative calling liberals "the petulant left" whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #24

Yep, and a lot of conservatives supported the Iraq War. Broward Mar 2016 #50

"Fellow travellers" -- my, what a blast from the past THAT phrase is! Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #28

Did Hillary bury anyone after she trusted Bush enough to vote for his war? Autumn Mar 2016 #29

Good for Susan! I like people who do what they want to, even if it's unpopular. reformist2 Mar 2016 #32

Isn't that what democracy is all about? n/t Nedsdag Mar 2016 #151

Of course not eggman67 Apr 2016 #176

The Hillbugs are coming out of the woodwork in desperation. Glad I have Ignore spray. nt PonyUp Mar 2016 #34

McCarthy who coined "fellow travelers" particularly hunted Jews riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #37

Obvious posters are obvious, they're coming out of the woodwork now. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #44

The scant publicly released polling in NY isn't looking good for HRC kristopher Mar 2016 #62

3 1/2 more months until the convention. 3 1/2 LONG months. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #111

and then they go Rovian Mnpaul Apr 2016 #200

that was yesterday Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #38

Eeek!! Nader!! Save the children!!! Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #41

Damn! Sarandon really hit a nerve! Awesome! djean111 Mar 2016 #43

Nader Denialism Lives!! redstateblues Mar 2016 #46

How Florida Democrats torpedoed Gore TM99 Mar 2016 #112

Thanks for posting this. It's nice to know who we're dealing with when that person politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2016 #51

Gee, guess the little woman should stay home and make movies, eh? djean111 Mar 2016 #58

Tweedledum and Tweedledee-Sanders and Nader love the same phrase Gothmog Mar 2016 #54

What a load of shit! Raster Mar 2016 #56

Then why did Karl Rove fund Nader? Gothmog Mar 2016 #65

Thank you! Let me add something else dr60omg Mar 2016 #74

And don't forget the Republican-dominated Florida state legislature Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #84

A threat yes Buzz cook Mar 2016 #91

People who base their voting preferences based on the opinions of celebrities are ... Impedimentus Mar 2016 #59

Nader remains a political narcissist Gothmog Mar 2016 #61

Never got an answer... MrWendel Mar 2016 #63

Yet another reason to love her!! nt m-lekktor Mar 2016 #68

If that's all you think a person needs to know about her, I'm glad I'm not as limited as that. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #70

I know right I wish Susan Shardon would drop out of the DNC primary race Gwhittey Mar 2016 #71

Hey, guess what? Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #76

welcome to ignore. Hiraeth Mar 2016 #78

Winning the Stupidest Post of the Day Award must be a badge of honor, Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #90

Yeah the competition is getting steep. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #93

That one about Bernie's "mystery donor" is also in the competition Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #113

I was afraid that would happen. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #141

Yet another candidate for Stupid Post of the Day Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #140

That guy is trying to get ahead of the memes. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #142

Al Gore was a good and decent man who deserved so much better. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #81

" " " " MBS Apr 2016 #187

"Fellow travelers?" More red-baiting from the Hillary brigade. Nt nichomachus Mar 2016 #82

Hillary voted for the Iraq resolution and the far Left can't stop whining about it. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #83

Her voting for Nader had no impact TSIAS Mar 2016 #92

It was her intent. Her logic gave us Bush, Cheney and Iraq. Stop the hypocrisy. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #100

Yup. That's the problem. The Midway Rebel Mar 2016 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author TSIAS Mar 2016 #87

Wow, you must be very frightened of this particular hollywood actress. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #95

She is sort of intimidating. Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #166

If that ain't some blinder wearin', desperate smellin' bullshit I ain't never seen any. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #106

All anyone needs to know is look at the posters name Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #110

She's a fantastic, brave and very intelligent woman .... and your accusations are SICK. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #114

Enjoy your stay Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #115

I've been here since basically the beginning of the DU ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #126

I can see why you keep your posts few and far between then Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #163

Fascists crack me up. frylock Mar 2016 #119

I stand with Susan and NOT Hillary Vote2016 Mar 2016 #120

Actually it was as Uponthegears Mar 2016 #129

I liked her as an actress but I'm WhiteTara Mar 2016 #131

"Fellow Travelers" Did we go back to the future in 1954? hobbit709 Mar 2016 #132

For fucks sake. Respectfully, fuck off. Nader did not cause 9/11. morningfog Mar 2016 #136

You do realize Gore won the election. basselope Mar 2016 #137

Gore lost each Nader vote. Like Gore, Hillary thinks she owns the liberal vote by being less right Vote2016 Mar 2016 #144

OK - I pledge not to vote for her. Nt jmg257 Mar 2016 #147

She supported IWR co-sponsor and hedge fund employee geek tragedy Mar 2016 #148

sarandon enid602 Mar 2016 #152

Looks like she is consistently on the right side of history. Zira Mar 2016 #153

She doesn't have to say anything. She's using her celebrity to speak out. So what? YOHABLO Mar 2016 #159

Joe McCarthy called nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #164

!954 called: have you taken our fellow travellers? Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #165

Oo! Oo! Do Jane Fonda next! n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #185

This doesn't bother me in the least. LWolf Apr 2016 #189

Fuck Nader. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #191

1-Gore won in the stolen election of 2000 felix_numinous Apr 2016 #195

"Fellow travelers" choie Apr 2016 #207