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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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119. Haveadream, do you have to take a test to prove you're biased against race or can you just admit it?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:15 AM
Apr 2016

I'm 50 and have had 6 female bosses and 4 male bosses, I've even worked in a female dominated field where I'm the only male in the office at two locations.

4 Male bosses: let me be me, shot the shit, talked sports, took me to lunch

The good female: very similar, not uptight, knew I liked to entertain the others and appreciated me. Laughed at my jokes.

5th male boss wasn't my direct boss, he was the program director, and worked in cahoots with a young, female manager who was awesome to my face but afraid to tell me anything other than I'm awesome and bring so much to the team. So he attended all of my supervisions and tried to intimidate me while she sat their blank faced. So fuck those two, I liked her a lot but knew she felt otherwise about me. Ultimately, I reported both of them to the Department of Labor. I would have just quit and moved on, but they picked a fight with me.

1 female boss: she wasn't an onsight boss so she relied on the 23-26 year old women, very inexperienced in life, poor social skills, and unliked by young adult clients because they spoke down to them, to watch me closely. I was twice their age and a natural at my job. But I made my coworkers feel inferior about themselves. The program director, a man, thought I was awesome so I stayed as long as I wanted. Totally ignored the criticism from my boss because it was based on reports from pathetic coworkers.

1 female boss: SOOOO uptight, very condescending, horrible people skills, thought my comedy act reflected poorly on her and gave me busy work. She got fired after 1 year, I was with the company for almost 7 years, but lost that job on Day 1 of the Great Recession. She was replaced by one of the good female bosses.

good bosses, gender neutral:
1. Not uptight
2. Appreciate me
3. Good people skills
4. Shoot the shit

Bad bosses, gender neutral:
1. Shitty people skills
2. Uptight
3. Micromanagers
4. Network of spies


Now you go!

I think H's problems have nothing to do with being a woman. nt artislife Apr 2016 #1
Likewise, her being the most qualified to be President is independent of her gender. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #9
Judgement vs Experience... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #35
Let's see: Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #52
Twist and spin. longship Apr 2016 #64
I didn't spin anything. I disagreed with her vote on the war. If that is your one and only issue... Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #70
Nope! That is not my only issue. longship Apr 2016 #75
Independent...shit it isn't even in the same room .. artislife Apr 2016 #116
She certainly has impressive qualifications in turning the middle east into a shithole jfern Apr 2016 #120
Correct. It was an oasis of peace and tranquility for 5000 years until she became Secy of State. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #122
Does saying "no, I do not want to take a test" make me biased against female leadership? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #2
Yes n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #25
. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #79
No. nt. sibelian Apr 2016 #46
It may show more that you BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #56
Were you among those begging Warren to run? daleanime Apr 2016 #3
Warren is not running. athena Apr 2016 #17
You're for Hillary.... daleanime Apr 2016 #37
Thread win! merrily Apr 2016 #27
I was! I guess I hate my gender! nt artislife Apr 2016 #117
You've posted this in the wrong forum--This is about the Democratic Primary election TheDormouse Apr 2016 #4
Can't do this on an iPhone but I'll do it later. Agschmid Apr 2016 #5
Great test. athena Apr 2016 #6
How in the hell does this test even work? B2G Apr 2016 #7
Damn it. Orsino Apr 2016 #8
Gender has no bearing in my choice Trajan Apr 2016 #10
Did you take the test? athena Apr 2016 #11
"Beat" even slight gender bias? Heavens, I hope not. merrily Apr 2016 #29
I'm proud of my belief that women make better leaders. athena Apr 2016 #36
That answer angrychair Apr 2016 #77
I believe I was accused of "sexism" (against men), not of "bias". athena Apr 2016 #83
First, putting "sexist" in quotation marks when my post did not use that word is dishonest. at best. merrily Apr 2016 #84
As a Sanders supporter, I got the opposite result. Chan790 Apr 2016 #81
Thank you for your thoughtful reply Haveadream Apr 2016 #95
I passed Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #12
It said I was bias slightly, missed one in the beginning but they kept moving things around Joob Apr 2016 #13
interesting Locrian Apr 2016 #14
I was thinking the same thing Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #18
The order didn't make any difference for me. athena Apr 2016 #19
Exactly, they set these things up all dumb... sibelian Apr 2016 #47
You really think they don't compensate for that? athena Apr 2016 #51
" Your data suggest a moderate association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader " Bad Thoughts Apr 2016 #15
I'm a sexist swine. HassleCat Apr 2016 #16
The results have nothing to do with the "e/i" test B2G Apr 2016 #20
Untrue. Wow. bettyellen Apr 2016 #43
Then explain how I took the test twice B2G Apr 2016 #44
It also measures the speed at which you answer. bettyellen Apr 2016 #50
Lying? B2G Apr 2016 #53
The methodology is explained on the site- has been used before to uncover unconscious bettyellen Apr 2016 #58
Did I say I was disappointed? B2G Apr 2016 #60
You were bothered by the results enough to attack the study- without any basis or knowledge. bettyellen Apr 2016 #67
"You really think that Harvard is lying about the study results to you?" Yes. Chan790 Apr 2016 #94
So, you think they are lying. I'm not surprised as GDP has become CT central. bettyellen Apr 2016 #102
No, I don't think they're lying. I actually caught them red-handed. n/t :) Chan790 Apr 2016 #103
Well that was interesting. I could feel the difficulty in associating women and leader compared to bettyellen Apr 2016 #21
Same Haveadream Apr 2016 #33
I know I went much slower on those, trying to get it "right". bettyellen Apr 2016 #40
Oh Gee I support women leaders! What a waste of my time. jillan Apr 2016 #22
Fun. More implicit association tests from Harvard: rachacha Apr 2016 #23
Kicked and highly recommended n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #24
Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #26
I know for a fact I am biased again ONE woman leader. Autumn Apr 2016 #28
Then again, you've lived in your skin a significant amount of time, even if you are only 22. merrily Apr 2016 #31
Yes I am But have sadly enough neglected it for a few weeks. Autumn Apr 2016 #38
Oh, dear. My only point was that the head of the Elizabeth Warren Group has no merrily Apr 2016 #90
It's so obviously rigged. B2G Apr 2016 #34
Yeah, it was a complete waste of time to me. Autumn Apr 2016 #39
There is only one woman leader running for president. athena Apr 2016 #41
I supported her to the very end in 08 because I wanted to see a woman president in my lifetime. Autumn Apr 2016 #54
In that last video, athena Apr 2016 #61
You are seeing what you want to see. Bill clearly reached for her to kiss her Autumn Apr 2016 #71
What do you see Bill's hand doing in the video? athena Apr 2016 #72
What exactly is the point of the kissing video? bettyellen Apr 2016 #73
The point of the kissing video? I felt like posting it. Autumn Apr 2016 #80
So, it was a pointless personal jab. Got it. bettyellen Apr 2016 #85
"Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female." Shandris Apr 2016 #30
As if I would be perfectly happy supporting a MAN who was for war and fracking and the TPP djean111 Apr 2016 #32
result: "Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #42
"Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female." Scuba Apr 2016 #45
My results: 'Your data suggest a strong association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader' whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #48
"Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" Tarc Apr 2016 #49
My results. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #55
I see the delegation from tumblr has arrived in the comments section... VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #57
Still not a Hilary supporter. beedle Apr 2016 #59
The OP didn't mention Hillary, BTW LisaM Apr 2016 #62
Exactly Haveadream Apr 2016 #82
I read such an interesting statement on this the other day... LisaM Apr 2016 #89
What knee jerk reactions? The negative reactions toward Clinton are mostly the result of Zorra Apr 2016 #100
I think you are being a little disingenuous. LisaM Apr 2016 #104
Seriously? Every reasonably perceptive poster immediately, and intuitively, Zorra Apr 2016 #110
It was posted in GD_P, not in GD. You don't see any significance there? I do. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #106
Fascinating! Thank you for posting this. I enjoyed taking it. Glorfindel Apr 2016 #63
Often women are the worst- Its called Queen Bee Syndrome Baobab Apr 2016 #65
That's sexist. This is the kind of thinking that keeps women down. athena Apr 2016 #69
"Your data suggest a moderate association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" redgreenandblue Apr 2016 #66
Well I associate with a woman as a leader but do not support Clinton dr60omg Apr 2016 #68
Hehee, took the test, and sounds like they are more confused than me nolabels Apr 2016 #74
"Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female." SMC22307 Apr 2016 #76
Suggests a moderate association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader. Xyzse Apr 2016 #78
According to the test, I strongly associate women with leadership. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #86
Mine showed a strong association of male with supporter and female with leader. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #87
That's what I got too whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #98
I had an issue with the use of "Michael" as an exclusively male name. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #88
. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #91
"Your data suggest a strong association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" bunnies Apr 2016 #92
"Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #93
"Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female." Dem2 Apr 2016 #96
Sarah Palin is a woman. mmonk Apr 2016 #97
I am biased towards WOMEN as leaders. Avalux Apr 2016 #99
It says I associate females as leaders, men as supporters. bobbobbins01 Apr 2016 #101
The test is bogus. GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #105
Because the test first teaches your muscles to use the same key for Male and Leader. ieoeja Apr 2016 #107
It's not just about correct answers. auntpurl Apr 2016 #109
This test has flawed methodology. auntpurl Apr 2016 #108
Including you? whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #111
Including me what? auntpurl Apr 2016 #115
I'm against Hillary Clinton's policies and judgement. I wouldn't vote for Margaret Thatcher either. Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #112
Reported results thus far show 10 to 1 automatic preference for female leaders Haveadream Apr 2016 #113
"Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female." JackRiddler Apr 2016 #114
"Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" hereforthevoting Apr 2016 #118
Haveadream, do you have to take a test to prove you're biased against race or can you just admit it? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #119
My results: LWolf Apr 2016 #121
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