2016 Postmortem

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,995 posts)

7. Either all the primaries are open or they are all closed.

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:52 PM

Apr 2016

There is no way a hybrid can ever be fair or make sense.

Just have open primaries for every state and territory with candidates from both parties competing in them. That means voters could have chosen between Clinton, Sanders, O'Malley, Trump, Cruz, Bush, Rubio, Kasich. Paul, Christie, et cetera...

Eliminate party debates... All the candidates would debate one another, regardless of party.

At the end the two leading candidates would have a run off...

Of course this is ridiculous, as ridiculous as letting folks vote in the primaries, regardless of what party they registered as.

Parties exist for a reason and that reason is to allow folks to separate themselves into groups and form consensuses and do political battle with other folks who have done the same.

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If you call yourself a liberal/democrat... [View all] Buddyblazon Apr 2016 OP

Um CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #1

People are trying to get in the tent... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #2

No they aren't CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #4

"If they wanted in... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #10

It's not exclusive. Anyone who wants to join is welcome. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #14

As long as you do it by this date. Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #17

Yes. You have deadlines to vote in the general election too. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #23

Again... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #25

Neither are you, if you judge everyone who disagrees with you. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #26

Where in being a liberal has it ever been stated... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #27

Your big liberal tent apparently doesn't welcome me. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #29

My tent is open to anyone that's interested in advancing... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #46

But only your idea of 'liberal'. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #52

No... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #59

You called me defense of closed primaries... CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #60

I pointed out... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #62

Some don't want to join but will support the Dem candidate pinebox Apr 2016 #18

Considering there are more independents than... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #24

But it's hard to get in if the doors are zipped up 6 months before the big event. NWCorona Apr 2016 #3

Maybe you should have been paying attention 6 months ago instead of just recently? CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #32

Tell me where I suggested not playing by the rules NWCorona Apr 2016 #36

You want to get "in the doors" despite missing the deadline. The deadline is the rule. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #37

Lol! NWCorona Apr 2016 #38

New people register every year. The deadline has nothing to do with it. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #41

How am I grasping at straws when most people don't even pay attention to the race until the new year NWCorona Apr 2016 #43

Enjoy your (return to) vacation. morningfog Apr 2016 #57

Or a dumpster fire. floriduck Apr 2016 #20

Should Republicans be allowed in the tent? Why even have a tent? LonePirate Apr 2016 #5

I call myself a liberal Democrat. I have an issue with allowing conservatives into 'our big tent'. pampango Apr 2016 #6

Exactly Andy823 Apr 2016 #31

Either all the primaries are open or they are all closed. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #7

California tried that, and SCOTUS struck it down. CA Democratic Party v Jones. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #33

I think it's a terrible idea. That's why I ridiculed it but has the virtue of being consistent. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #39

More purity tests. CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #8

I call myself a liberal soon-to-be-ex-democrat whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #9

This is 100% truth... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #12

What about the hated "Third Wayers", are they allowed inside too? DanTex Apr 2016 #11

Of course... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #13

I am a liberal, so of course I want liberals in the party. And there are lots of them. DanTex Apr 2016 #16

You certainly don't want me in your party... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #21

. Dem2 Apr 2016 #15

"you are welcome inside our tent" geek tragedy Apr 2016 #19

Spin spin spin Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #22

Truth, truth, truth. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #34

You seem angry, bro. Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #47

You want access to everything in the tent ... salinsky Apr 2016 #28

the old tent held too many people...so about 30 years ago they got a new tent... islandmkl Apr 2016 #30

Bravo! whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #35

So fascists are welcome? Neo-cons? KKK members? Scuba Apr 2016 #40

They want to win Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #42

so you want to make the membership rules for a club you do not want to join . . . got it DrDan Apr 2016 #44

Dan... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #48

Wait...I voted for Carter in our elementary school election... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #49

I am not pushing anyone out of any tent - everyone is welcome DrDan Apr 2016 #51

I support my candidate for what he stands for not because he is good in winning caucuses and open pampango Apr 2016 #45

I'm an Independent/Socialist. I find it quite liberating to not belong to a party. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #50

I'm all for open primaries, but I want to abolish caucuses. Zynx Apr 2016 #53

30% of Sanders fans won't support HRC in GE, 15% of HRC supporters say they wouldn't support Bernie Bill USA Apr 2016 #54

Hit the nail on the head. Thread win!!!! nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #55

Terribly simplistic... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #61

Or Hillary needs to campaign better hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #63

I think of it as a Club that accepts anyone who WANTS TO BE A MEMBER... brooklynite Apr 2016 #56

Everyone is "allowed" they just have to follow the proceedures to join. Lucinda Apr 2016 #58