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Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
86. It's not a very good photoshop. The face doesn't fit within the veil very well.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:08 PM
Apr 2016

Aside from that, I've just thought of it as an interesting display of jealousy. We have a good-hearted candidate. They don't.

I don't mind the association of Sanders with Mother Mary. I was raised as a Catholic and have found deep associations between Mary and the ancient goddess whom the male priesthood changed into a mere human, though a blessed one. Many of the great cathedrals of Europe were built over former goddess shrines, specifically to co-opt the particular power of worshiping God as a woman. To me, now, that goddess represents Mother Earth and all her critters and her totality as the life-giver--as well as the loving, compassionate, nurturing aspect of human life. Without that, we wouldn't be here, as a race of sentient beings. Who carried the babies on their backs or on their hips for thousands of miles out of Africa to everywhere? Who taught their babies to speak? Who taught them to think? Who taught men to be more than simply hungry hunters? Who taught men to love? Who taught them to think of the future?

Just my thoughts as to why people first of all worshiped the Woman, and made images of her (which male anthropologists used to dismiss as mere "fertility figures&quot . Love of children and of fertility and birth led to so many advances in human society and in the human brain. It probably was the beginning of science (noting women's cycles' connection to the moon, etc.) and certainly contributed to the beginnings of human organization and cooperation.

Sanders is the only candidate who has stated that restoring and protecting the Earth is our MORAL duty. He is the only serious presidential contender who has EVER said so (to my memory; or, in any case, has said so and meant it). He was personally drawn to Vermont after attending summer camp as a kid in Brooklyn and finding that he loved nature. (He said this in an interview.) He is a big supporter of organic farming in VT. Organic farmers respect Mother Earth and her ways, and consequently grow much better food--far more nutritious and better tasting.

The Church taught that Mary was (is) a virgin--gave birth to the god-man Jesus without sex, which I have always found ridiculous (even as a kid). That is their core MISTAKE as to everything that followed theologically and their various insults to women (and worse) down through the centuries. However, that IS one aspect of the ancient goddess--the virgin, the innocent girl, the woman who removes herself from men either completely or as a ritual (in the ancient temples) after what was considered healing sex with men (producing children who were raised by the temple). The other aspects of the goddess are the mother (overseer of life) and the crone (overseer of death and regeneration).

The sacred virgin became a repeated theme in sainthood stories of the Church. It was obsessive. Not a week went by when some little "holy card" with a sainted virgin on it was given to me as a little girl. I finally rejected it all as a male obsession. But the notions of purity and purification remain in all of us. They are deeply embedded in our psyche.

One of Sanders' greatest attractions--to me, and I imagine to many others--is that he is not OF the utterly filthy, corrupt and devastatingly bad campaign finance system by which our government is bought and sold by the uber rich. He is pure--or as pure as anyone can get--in this respect. And I think he also offers the transformative notion of purification--that we can reform our system, that democracy can be reborn.

In all of these senses, I don't find the Clintonites' crude little cartoon joke offensive. It is a left-handed compliment. (Ha-ha!) They wish they had a candidate that people look up to in this way. And the fact that they very decidedly don't have such a candidate annoys them, makes them jealous, drives them to poke fun. Too bad they've lost their ideals.

Yes, it is probably offensive to many. It isn't to me. It is just sad that when there is a spark of the divine--a good heart, a genuine commitment to clean government, the desire for a decent society--in a public figure, some respond with ridicule. But every public figure who has had this divine spark has suffered ridicule, even far worse than this. It is not worship to honestly acknowledge such a quality. It is simply a joy to see it in any human being, let alone in a politician.

We all love Bernie but I do wish they would stop deifying him! Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #1
I think you "got it" Sheepshank Apr 2016 #78
their attacks always just end with him looking better anyways: they go for quantity over quality MisterP Apr 2016 #2
Perhaps they should spend their time defending this... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #3
It's OK, fine, no problem. HassleCat Apr 2016 #4
Anyone else getting whiffs of 2008 off this? VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #5
Discussed in detail here: Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #6
It's totally boorish and offensive. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #12
Yeah, you said that. It's also free speech. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #14
Reminds me of white supremacists who draw offensive cartoons because "free speech" Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #23
Really. That stupid photoshop creation reminds you of white supremacists. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #24
You're making the same argument they use. You have free speech to post offensive images. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #30
Except... JSup Apr 2016 #85
If you ain't annoyed by someone's free speech rock Apr 2016 #57
Do you teach this behavior to your chldren? pangaia Apr 2016 #28
Maybe stop putting thumbs in people's eyes to begin with All in it together Apr 2016 #32
lol, I bet you're glad this is all so anonymous. senz Apr 2016 #66
Buzz, I understand but it best symbolized Bern's brand. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #81
That's fair. It's symbolic of the way he behaves and speaks volumes about Bernie BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #7
Care to specify the "bigger truth about Bernie" you alluded to? Sinistrous Apr 2016 #15
Yes because we all know that having ideals is an awful thing to be mocked Armstead Apr 2016 #45
Bigger truth about Bernie. Bernie has no ego. senz Apr 2016 #67
"...the Virgin Mary photoshop is pretty ingenious actually." Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #74
Only reflects how some people view him KingFlorez Apr 2016 #8
Much like Obama saw himself as a 'Muslim' beedle Apr 2016 #13
Oh, please. I'm an antheist and I don't get that about him at all... CTyankee Apr 2016 #19
He looks at himself as an average person who believes society should be moral Armstead Apr 2016 #47
It's beyond them, Armstead. senz Apr 2016 #68
I know...But I'm tenacious Armstead Apr 2016 #71
Like Obama being Muslim or not born nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #79
I was raised Catholic and I don't get it either. It just looks sexist to me - CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #9
Next up will be Bernie in a turban or some other 'suggestive' headgear. beedle Apr 2016 #10
i find it anti Christian questionseverything Apr 2016 #31
+1 Zira Apr 2016 #34
kind of a graphic way of saying #BernieSoChristian instead of #BernieSoBlack tk2kewl Apr 2016 #56
It's the internet. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #11
Glad I'd just set my drink down. Lol! Hortensis Apr 2016 #61
He's got a charmed life. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #64
No doubt he has many zealous supporters. Hortensis Apr 2016 #69
The Tories are very good at closing ranks. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #70
Good luck with that, for sure. Hortensis Apr 2016 #75
It's a huge worry. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #87
Meh. We know that they are people with no moral compass (they condoned the IWR vote, after all) Maedhros Apr 2016 #16
The are desecrating Mary. It's a direct snub to the Catholic Church Lone_Wolf Apr 2016 #17
It is a twofer nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #83
One of our own quite verbal DUer's for Hillary shows that all the time in his/her sig line bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #18
Yeah...not feeling the buzz on that one. Clicked on Ignore. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #21
That thing is one of the most odious trolls on the internet FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #38
I'd say it is a dig at Sanders' cult of personality Tarc Apr 2016 #20
You felt the same about the same dig directed at Obama in 2008? Armstead Apr 2016 #50
I was a little shocked to only see one hit for, "saint Obama" on DU in my Google search Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #22
I think the rightwingers used to mockingly call him Messiah. arcane1 Apr 2016 #37
Woah, punching that search in returns a lot of results. Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #39
I think the slam was we think Obama walks on water All in it together Apr 2016 #42
It's Just As Classless As Putting Obama in a Hitler Moustache TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #25
Are Larouchies considered far right? Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #40
More petty behavior, this time from HRC supporters. blm Apr 2016 #26
this is awful Merryland Apr 2016 #27
I've seen that. More childish behavior. It doesn't even make sense. Mary was a woman. jillan Apr 2016 #29
Amazing how Ole Hill's poll numbers keep going down, while Bernie's go up, and up and up. ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #33
Hey - fighting back against this image created of Hillary is fair play!! jmg257 Apr 2016 #35
One among many Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #55
Creeps do creepy stuff whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #36
anti-catholic and ant-semitic tripe mhatrw Apr 2016 #41
Sort of negates any Pitiful Pearl cries. Downwinder Apr 2016 #43
That is a new, completely disgusting low. Punkingal Apr 2016 #44
Well next to Bush&Clinton&Co felix_numinous Apr 2016 #46
They are still angry about him going to a world conference jwirr Apr 2016 #48
I'm offended bigwillq Apr 2016 #49
It is very simple... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #51
As a Bernie supporter... I say thanks clintonites.. super large catholic communities in the berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #52
Hardly any of whom will give two hoots about an internet forum meme anigbrowl Apr 2016 #76
That is one of the images nadinbrzezinski discussed in her recent, 'dog whistle' MerryBlooms Apr 2016 #53
The more the Clintons and their apologists talk, the higher Hillary's negatives go BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #54
Your folks started it first, and it was and is pretty intense and insensitive. Hekate Apr 2016 #58
Offending Catholics is a good way to lose lots of votes. Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #59
fine with me ibegurpard Apr 2016 #60
The same group that is cool with Rick Warren but hates the Pope Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #62
It kind of matches my impression that one of the things bjo59 Apr 2016 #63
But it's so sweet of them to want us to know there is genuine filth in the world. senz Apr 2016 #65
If you can't beat them..... pinebox Apr 2016 #72
It's the image of a Saint and a Bleeding Heart. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #73
Anti Catholic and anti Semitic nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #77
Seems appropriate. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #80
A lot of them also have Odin's Cross avatars. QC Apr 2016 #82
For the record, to be factual nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #84
It's not a very good photoshop. The face doesn't fit within the veil very well. Peace Patriot Apr 2016 #86
Because it hurts them somewhere inside to know they represent a lack of morals. nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #88
Take a look in your own backyard. shadowandblossom Apr 2016 #89
"New and stirring things are belittled because..." pat_k Apr 2016 #90
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