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dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
15. Good OP, we need to push for platform considerations
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:02 AM
Apr 2016

I don't think any DU Bernie person is going to vote for Trump, at least I'd be shocked. I guess, given the large numbers of people, there's bound to be one or two, but overall, I don't see it.

But I'm definitely an issues voter, not a party voter, and I'm sure there are many others this is true for. Hillary is pretty much the worst of the worst Democrats from my perspective, doesn't support my issues with anything more than campaign rhetoric.

They'll need to incorporate some serious reforms we are pushing for, and its a good idea to push this. We'll only get small bones, IMO, on the party platform, but we might as well fight for the most we can get, and let them know we vote based on issues. The whole reason for Bernie's campaign is that the party has ignored our issues for too long, hopefully we can get something substantial on the platform out of this campaign, and then we can decide how to proceed from there.

Personally, some bones I would want would be to end fracking (edit: and to stop supporting it in other countries), to support a massive effort to retool our energy use to renewables, overturning Citizen''s United, ending private prisons, a financial transaction tax, or a platform plank that supports single payer healthcare with no health insurance industry. Getting the party to support these things, or at least some of them, in the platform, would be better than nothing.

Better yet, let's win the primary for Bernie. Still possible if improbable.

It's a good thought. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #1
This will only happen if the Clinton camp wakes up and realizes it will need Bernie's supporters dflprincess Apr 2016 #2
The platform will be everything for me. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #3
Platform is the first step. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #5
Yes, but at least we will have something to wave at her! oldandhappy Apr 2016 #8
Yep. Having something to wave at her is better than not. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #9
can't trust her grasswire Apr 2016 #30
Platform plus VP choice. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #34
yes -- I am hesitant to hope. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #47
Too late Kalidurga Apr 2016 #4
Perhaps if you weren't blatantly insulting them with Hillarians mythology Apr 2016 #19
"It's just baffling to me that people are this lacking in self-awareness." Gwhittey Apr 2016 #20
You find that insulting odd Kalidurga Apr 2016 #21
.that^ X100 840high Apr 2016 #29
Bingo. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #43
+1 DCBob Apr 2016 #42
The bridge has been burned, the well poisoned. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #6
2nd place still pays pretty well Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #13
Yep. That's why they hate the left more than they do Republicans. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #14
No, heckuba job, Bernie. He wanted to destroy the Democratic party and he just might succeed. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #27
It was the Clintons who destroyed the Democratic Party my friend. YOHABLO Apr 2016 #28
Link? nt grasswire Apr 2016 #31
I view it as a hostage rescue. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #35
The number of write-ins will surprise many yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #37
The Clintons are vindictive. They're already set to shut him out of any speaking slot riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #7
They've put it out that they're going to attempt to shut him out of a speaking slot SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #10
Read it and weep... riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #11
That's insulting, but SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #16
Keep in mind the Clinton enemies list. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #17
Wait, so an article written by a guy who hates Clinton says something and I'm supposed to believe it mythology Apr 2016 #22
Ditto. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #12
I guess Hillary doesn't want to witness another "Bernie! Bernie!" moment. winter is coming Apr 2016 #23
Are you serious? That is NOT going to help her win over his supporters. jillan Apr 2016 #18
Good OP, we need to push for platform considerations dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #15
You don't "get" anything at the convention except the nomination. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #24
Over 80% of Sanders supporters polled said they will vote Clinton. seabeyond Apr 2016 #25
I do doubt that poll from what I have seen bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #26
Oh yeah? No one polled me YOHABLO Apr 2016 #32
It's going to be close in the fall. 80% won't be enough. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #36
Obama won Florida twice by very slim margins. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #39
You have a good point. However, I would not assume that Bernie's campaign will get nothing in Phill still_one Apr 2016 #33
I'll fight for Democracy, not Demockracy. Joob Apr 2016 #38
They have to do much more than that, i have to tell you. Unless those Superdelegates silvershadow Apr 2016 #40
One big problem with the party system now. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #41
I expect to see unity come out of the convention and hillary has no reason NOT to incorporate beachbum bob Apr 2016 #44
So what issues should the Sanders campaign push to be addressed? randome Apr 2016 #45
Oklahoma will go for the 'CON nominee madokie Apr 2016 #46
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