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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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93. That's not even the complete story. The status quo half,
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:36 AM
Apr 2016

the half that's had control of the Party for a generation now, is hemorrhaging individuals with FDR Democratic values, turning others off to the political process, and inspiring others to register Independent. This is a big deal in that, in practice, it works like voter suppression. As opposition outside the Party continues to grow, so too does the relative strength of the establishment. It's winning by losing. Following NY, Joan Walsh was so proud of herself, and lauded by her colleagues, after writing what this generation of New Democrats does best: shame people for not showing up. She wrote, Bernie supporters love to rally but they don't like to vote. She, and the rest of the media that's been fueling this meme for years, totally missed the real story. Bernie's engaged people the Democratic establishment has happily ignored for years. Unfortunately, they've rejected the Democratic Party and registered Independent. Joan will get to pat herself on the back again come California's closed election, as 300,000 Californians, likely mistakenly, registered with the Independence Party. People don't understand the machine, especially people who vote in states where their vote never matters.

Very Clear, smile. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #1
Exactamundo! Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #2
K&R Real democrats cannot vote for someone who represents the opposite of real democratic values amborin Apr 2016 #3
Thank you!!! Perfectly stated. Kittycat Apr 2016 #76
well said! Rockyj Apr 2016 #123
I keep resisting that thought but it is beginning to look that way Armstead Apr 2016 #4
These wounds aren't gonna heal easily. TDale313 Apr 2016 #5
+1000. Spot on. nt antigop Apr 2016 #6
In the primary, the vast majority of traditional democrats have voted for Clinton. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #7
The dichotomy projected Trenzalore Apr 2016 #9
No side is pure and noble. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #12
Interesting choice for new companion Trenzalore Apr 2016 #13
Vote machines are being flipped like they have done in previous elections. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #44
Clinton has been stealing and voter-suppressing CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #55
This. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #57
It is. Very nice. dchill Apr 2016 #31
One side is the Kennedy Democrats OwlinAZ Apr 2016 #32
apparently not grasswire Apr 2016 #10
The movement in Demorats is to Bernie for his traditional Democratic values. senz Apr 2016 #14
Traditional Democrats alone Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #27
"the Primary" is far from over OwlinAZ Apr 2016 #36
The vast majority of traditional democrats? passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #66
It's as if progressives and young people OnionPatch Apr 2016 #117
Shitting on the Democrats in the many States Sanders has won is a bad idea. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author smiley Apr 2016 #98
personally, I don't think the "New Democrat" supremacy care AT ALL about a progressive agenda. antigop Apr 2016 #8
Hey, it's people over in the Bernie group talking about voting Trump. Metric System Apr 2016 #11
"They don't want us" I agree with you 100% That Guy 888 Apr 2016 #46
What are you talking about? We have two liberal candidates. YouDig Apr 2016 #15
you're not listening. grasswire Apr 2016 #17
I'm listening to the candidates and what they actually stand for. YouDig Apr 2016 #26
As we all are. OwlinAZ Apr 2016 #34
You aren't talking to those desperate @ climate change then riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #24
Now you're calling her the same as a climate change denier? YouDig Apr 2016 #25
I do, but I'm too polite to post it. puffy socks Apr 2016 #28
Her proposals will ensure the same result. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #30
That's not true. Look at her actual proposals. YouDig Apr 2016 #33
Fracking, support for ground troops in Syria riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #39
Her support for fracking is very mild, nothing compared to what the GOP wants. YouDig Apr 2016 #40
Nope, as SOS she promoted fracking worldwide - a global disaster riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #43
That aquifer under Oklahoma, goes clear up to North Dakota and even Canada -none Apr 2016 #63
. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #64
Fracking is eco-assault. Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #75
my friends in my old hometown of Wellington are experiencing earthquakes several times a week.. islandmkl Apr 2016 #95
I am told there was an earthquake near Wichita in the early '60s. Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #111
What does she say the number one threat to the US is. bahrbearian Apr 2016 #41
Populism! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #112
Corporate Democrats know they have to throw us a few bones to try to keep us distracted. Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #62
Excellent post, thanks - eom dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #70
"If the policies that Hillary is proposing are enacted into law." She has no intentions ... bahrbearian Apr 2016 #38
Because nothing says "feminism" like cluster bombs? n/t eridani Apr 2016 #91
Willful blindness on the part of the Democratic Party Baobab Apr 2016 #106
Are you being paid to believe that? I am not and I don't Vincardog Apr 2016 #118
You mean the Hillary ... bvar22 Apr 2016 #122
K & R LWolf Apr 2016 #16
dnc truthers insightdeluxe Apr 2016 #18
don't want to know what a rear naked choke is. nt grasswire Apr 2016 #19
Are you familiar with what FDR campaigned on in 1932? Zynx Apr 2016 #20
K&R. ridgenvalley Apr 2016 #21
thank you :-) nt grasswire Apr 2016 #22
... asuhornets Apr 2016 #23
She needs to bow out. I'm actually convinced she isn't even the clear front-runner. silvershadow Apr 2016 #29
She may very well want to quit today... ReRe Apr 2016 #92
I've Been Trying For Weeks AND Weeks Now To... ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #35
we will follow Bernie's cue grasswire Apr 2016 #47
Thank You Very Much! I Belong Ton A Group & My Family Also ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #108
I loved reading your post, it's the best thing I've read today. Most excellent and I totally agree! haikugal Apr 2016 #67
Thanks So Much For Standing With Bernie So We ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #109
Great job, always like your voice here - eom dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #71
Many Thanks To You Also... I READ Your Posts With Happiness Too! n/t ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #110
List of the 33 states here: CrispyQ Apr 2016 #107
THIS TIME I'll KEEP This List! It's So Very Informative & DOES Expose ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #114
If you lose the link, CrispyQ Apr 2016 #115
Thank YOU Again... Just Wrote Myself ANOTHER Post It Note! ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #119
... Scuba Apr 2016 #37
Clearly an unbiased and even consideration of the candidates mythology Apr 2016 #42
perhaps the flaws just are greater than the attributes. grasswire Apr 2016 #48
I have seen voting irregularities in election after election. It is proven they can be flipped in bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #45
It's the "where else are they going to go?" third way triangulation game Califonz Apr 2016 #49
Yeah, that expression says it all, "where else are they going to go" from Tommy appalachiablue Apr 2016 #121
After the primaries Old Codger Apr 2016 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Trajan Apr 2016 #52
I love you .... Trajan Apr 2016 #51
nice grasswire Apr 2016 #65
Aw, Paul Wellstone. vintx Apr 2016 #74
Isn't it peculiar... CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #53
You think compassionate conservatives are the base? Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #59
it's called "sore losers" Lil Missy Apr 2016 #73
And .. Oh yeah ... Trajan Apr 2016 #54
So does that mean the reason I've gotten e-mails from Bernie are because he stole it? sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #77
I Try To Be Pragmatic jamese777 Apr 2016 #56
My favorite quote comes to mind rock Apr 2016 #58
An even bigger and more stinking pile: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #97
K/R 840high Apr 2016 #60
I'm having a hard time with this too passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #61
Yes Time for change Apr 2016 #68
Thank you grasswire I totally agree. haikugal Apr 2016 #69
Great post. CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #72
Peculiar? ncovington89 Apr 2016 #78
won't happen with HRC grasswire Apr 2016 #80
I will always Stand with Democracy, not DeMOCKracy Joob Apr 2016 #79
:-) nt grasswire Apr 2016 #81
Isn't it very peculiar that you're using the term one half of the democratic party... Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #82
your calculation does not include caucus voters. nt grasswire Apr 2016 #83
Caucuses are the least democratic process we have. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #87
doesn't matter grasswire Apr 2016 #88
Yes, they are and they do! Unfortunately for you Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #89
Outstanding OP! Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #84
Thanks, Uncle Joe! grasswire Apr 2016 #85
I couldn't sleep but will probably be crashing shortly. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #86
Here are a bunch of words and phrases that I basically started saying as a joke, and now can't stop. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #90
That's not even the complete story. The status quo half, WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #93
good post, thanks grasswire Apr 2016 #101
Yes, it's clear that the DLC/Third Way Dems are not real Dems in that they have tossed aside cui bono Apr 2016 #94
the wrong side of history, yes grasswire Apr 2016 #102
grasswire, you are on fire. dinkytron Apr 2016 #99
Feelin' the Bern!! :-) nt grasswire Apr 2016 #100
Me too. dinkytron Apr 2016 #103
Great post. Vinca Apr 2016 #104
thanks, friend :-) nt grasswire Apr 2016 #105
... rbrnmw Apr 2016 #113
K&R for core values. JEB Apr 2016 #116
The two groups have to unify, else hand the keys over to the Republicans TheDormouse Apr 2016 #120
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