2016 Postmortem

Jackie Wilson Said

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79. You can go on and on and on and on, but what you cant do is refute my logical, factual

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:24 PM

Apr 2016

comment that you have two choices in November.

And that not voting for one of them is shirking your duty as an adult.

You cannot refute that, it is why this thread is so big so fast.

My logic has some of you stumbling all over the place, but this is important or I wouldn't do it.

Maybe MAYBE when Bernie himself says it, and he will, maybe then?

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The adults in the room have to show up and vote in November, it is our responsibility to do so. [View all] Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 OP

As a solid D voter for the past 41 years, I will show up and vote. Guarenteed. Against Hills peacebird Apr 2016 #1

Just say you will be voting for the republican. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #2

No. Hills is the R light that I will not vote for. peacebird Apr 2016 #5

If you are going to vote in November and not for her if she wins, then you are voting R. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #7

Yours. You are pushing a corporatist warhawk. I have worked hard to get Bernie elected. if your peacebird Apr 2016 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #119

LOL! Bro? How about a woman who believes Hill is the evil one peacebird Apr 2016 #121

What about the OP writer? artislife Apr 2016 #132

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #24

I'll be voting for democrat - Bernie. 840high Apr 2016 #120

Republican or Republican light Skink Apr 2016 #3

Women dying in back alleys or not dying in back alleys, that is the choice, actually. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #4

And Hills is ok with limiting abortion rights as long as there is exception for moms health peacebird Apr 2016 #11

Not crazy about her either, but compared to the alternative, no brainer. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #35

What about the millions of women suffering and dying bjo59 Apr 2016 #32

Because President Trump will do less of that? MH1 Apr 2016 #111

Those women don't matter to 840high Apr 2016 #122

The planet is dying artislife Apr 2016 #133

As a 50 year old adult timmymoff Apr 2016 #6

In that case I will hope many will vote in your place to protect women, minorities, etc. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #10

In that case timmymoff Apr 2016 #15

They can't. artislife Apr 2016 #134

Third Way bullshit arguments, just like th Koch's wanted LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #45

I will ignore your insults and state this simply, EVEN if the choice was Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #48

There will be multiple candidates on the ballot that support women's rights. LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #56

But only two candidates can win, this is a known fact. By not voting for either you are Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #57

Again, when you've successfully passed a logic class let's talk again LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #62

Go ahead and explain to me cuz I am a dunce. YOu have two choice but choose neither and you Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #65

As I said below, endlessly repeating the same false statement doesn't make it any truer than LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #76

You have already acknowledged, in spite of asserting that there are only two choices Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #108

I'm with you. Laffy Kat Apr 2016 #82

Gotta be there to vote for down ticket Dems. lostnfound Apr 2016 #8

^THIS^ Aerows Apr 2016 #27

"living in a land of demockery" artislife Apr 2016 #136

It seems to be where we are at! Aerows Apr 2016 #138

Count on it artislife Apr 2016 #143

My state will not matter Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #9

Don't count on the independents if $hill is the candidate, because they are not democrats you know. insta8er Apr 2016 #12

So you will be voting R. Got it. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #14

I won't be voting anything, so you can put your judgmental attitude back to where you found it. insta8er Apr 2016 #19

By not participating you are absolutely voting R. And, I should add, shirking your responsibility. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #21

No he or she is not nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #30

I honestly think they smell disaster in the wind Aerows Apr 2016 #52

Whether Bernie does well or not does not matter at this point nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #59

Who is this we" you speak of , Oh Independent Journo? pkdu Apr 2016 #117

Ah personal attack nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #118

Not personal. Nothing wrong with supporting Bernie . Heck , my wife does... pkdu Apr 2016 #125

Yeah, whatever nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #127

Like a frothing at the mouth hound. artislife Apr 2016 #137

Thank You imari362 Apr 2016 #61

By voting for $hill I would be voting for a republican in disguise. By voting for Trump I would be insta8er Apr 2016 #31

No one has the responsibility Aerows Apr 2016 #33

Never took a logic class, did you? LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #51

It is logical to avoid your problems by not addressing them? Since when? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #54

If you don't understand that voting for candidate C does not add to candidate A's vote total LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #60

I straight up addressed my issues in this thread Aerows Apr 2016 #77

Busy thread, saw yours now. Easy peasy. You have two choices, one is the Democrat and one Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #85

Shirk my duty? Aerows Apr 2016 #98

You have two choices...NOTHING you can say will change that. LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #123

No we will not be Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #88

Then the question is are you talking, posting, expressing yourself in such a way so as to Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #90

No, nice try to get me stoned, lol Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #103

This concept of the secret ballot escapees the OP nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #112

Indeed so, and the poster is Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #128

Yup, she even thought she got me nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #129

They have claimed to be a Bernie supporter artislife Apr 2016 #139

Stop being dense. Those are not 840high Apr 2016 #124

Only adults can vote, so that seems a extraneous description of a voter. RadiationTherapy Apr 2016 #13

You bet, so which party are you voting for? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #16

I vote democratic. RadiationTherapy Apr 2016 #68

I'll be voting. Oh, and so did the Jury: In_The_Wind Apr 2016 #17

Think House and Senate majorities, Supreme Court to keep a president on the right track IADEMO2004 Apr 2016 #18

I Don't Believe A Word Hillary Says scottie55 Apr 2016 #22

Actually that is not the adult thing to do nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #23

You Can Vote, But It Won't Be Counted scottie55 Apr 2016 #25

Everybody should vote for their preferred candidate as dictated by their principles. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #26

The complete lack of faith in Hillary's integrity is what is stopping IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #28

maybe so but I doubt it as she would never get re-elected Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #37

Hello, how is the weather... nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #80

Okay, this is the second time in this thread Aerows Apr 2016 #114

Cruz and Trump would not outlaw abortion Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #126

What is this with "shirking your duty" bullshit? artislife Apr 2016 #140

I will vote for the Democratic Nominee in November. I consider it a responsibility of citizenship Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #29

I support Hillary Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #34

Adults need to QUIT voting for warmongers. period! nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #36

Count another one who will shirk duty. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #38

Count another one that won't be responsible for Hillary's policies. You betcha! nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #43

So you will not be voting? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #67

Of course I will be voting. Haven't missed one in 40 years. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #141

"Shirking duty" was voting for the Iraq War lostnfound Apr 2016 #64

Correct. So again, in November, if Bernie loses, you have two choices. Which will it be? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #66

Oh you have many choices nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #69

No, you dont have many choices. If your two small children are fighting, is one of your choices Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #70

Now bring the children nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #75

You can go on and on and on and on, but what you cant do is refute my logical, factual Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #79

Actually it is not logical, or factual nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #91

I dont understand political science but it is YOU advocating sitting out the process? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #92

Nope, if you read *that it is your issue* nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #101

Keep avoiding the facts. Two choices, only two. Shit sandwich or bigger shit sandwich Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #102

So my choice is a shit sandwitch or a bigger one? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #105

Uh, but alas we are back at my premise. since we agree one will kill your sister and one wont Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #107

You are using a straw man nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #109

Absolutely you can ignore them and many parenting books recommend doing just that lostnfound Apr 2016 #96

It is now official. Folks who take your attitude and that of the others here Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #99

LOL. The children whose futures will be non-existent if we make either of the 2 choices you suggest? Live and Learn Apr 2016 #144

Wow, you certainly do limit yourself. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #142

I will vote for the candidates that best advocate for the issues Beowulf Apr 2016 #39

If Hillary wins the nomination your choices will be her and GOP...it is that simple. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #41

Endlessly repeating the same false statement doesn't make it any truer than LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #72

How is it wrong? Are you actually saying you believe one of your choices as an adult is Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #74

Are you actually saying one of your choices as an adult is to vote for LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #83

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now you finally get it. One shit sandwich wont kill your sister in a back Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #87

Bon apetite on your shit sandwich. I'll order the chicken pesto that LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #95

That is not true Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #93

Maybe for you, Beowulf Apr 2016 #94

I will vote for whomever I please. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #40

Adults can vote My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #42

I am saying that as an adult you must vote. And you must vote for one of the two that Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #44

I don't agree with any of your premises. nt. My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #46

No thanks. Rass Apr 2016 #47

Got it, so you either vote FOR the GOP or sit it out and shirk your responsibility. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #50

haha Rass Apr 2016 #63

Our responsibility is to vote our conscience. Period. polichick Apr 2016 #49

No, it is to vote and be a part of resolving the process. Just like your everyday problems in life Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #53

I stand by my position. polichick Apr 2016 #55

I stand by your position. Throd Apr 2016 #73

I do too Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #97

You Can Smell the Authoritarianism noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #58

Yup and the beatings shall conitnue until that poor liquid horse flows to the ocean. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #71

Oh, yeah! That's exactly what it is. It's Dolores Umbridge, that scold! lostnfound Apr 2016 #100

If Bernie or Hillary imari362 Apr 2016 #78

Sigh Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #81

I must be on OP's "ignore". TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #84

No, busy thread, tell me again and I will respond Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #86

Nuts. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #89

I'll be voting my conscience. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #104

I have to wonder what happened to the adults in the room and their sense of responsibility dgauss Apr 2016 #106

I dont disagree...but if she wins, then we are where we are. right? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #113

I've heard that rationale before. And then we are where we are. dgauss Apr 2016 #146

The parties are not giving people a reason to vote nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #116

People have different ideas on what responsibility means Marrah_G Apr 2016 #110

I dont think I did that but given the stakes are life and death for many, i might have, getting Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #115

We will vote. artislife Apr 2016 #130

Real adults won't support the Hillaryan agenda ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #131

Wow..this op makes me want to run out and vote for HRC. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #135

Bullshit Argument: Voting for a 3rd party (or writing in Sanders) is shirking responsibility. TalkingDog Apr 2016 #145