2016 Postmortem

MineralMan

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2. I believe the voters would reject that by voting for

Reply to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:27 PM

Apr 2016

the two primary winners and ignoring the rest. Why? Because the end result of a divided 4-way race is election of a President by the House of Representatives. Who's in power in the House? The Republicans.

Do not wish for such an election. It would not end well at all. That's why voters would reject the third and fourth party candidates and vote for the candidates of the two major parties. Once they understood the consequences, they'd do the right thing.

Your hypothetical situation will not occur, of course.

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What if both Sanders & Trump went 3rd party, creating a FOUR WAY race? [View all] Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 OP

Ballot access nt firebrand80 Apr 2016 #1

I believe the voters would reject that by voting for MineralMan Apr 2016 #2

Oh yeah, I forgot to ask, so no person would have enough electoral votes, another Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #4

Getting rid of the electoral college is extremely unlikely. MineralMan Apr 2016 #9

I dont see any argument where I would agree to keep it. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #11

OK, but it doesn't get decided by voters. MineralMan Apr 2016 #13

But why? Why wouldnt the majority of Americans tell their reps to repeal it? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #14

For one reason the incentives it creates mythology Apr 2016 #18

No matter HOW bad the two main parties candidates are, the US system is set up to make us win! Baobab Apr 2016 #30

The majority of Americans wouldn't do that, though. MineralMan Apr 2016 #21

Why would you assume a majority of Americans would study the full process before voting? Kentonio Apr 2016 #37

In the first place, I can't imagine it getting the supermajorities MineralMan Apr 2016 #43

What does the process have to do with whether or not the majority of Americans Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #46

It's pretty simple, really. The people don't vote directly MineralMan Apr 2016 #48

Because they don't want to badly enough anigbrowl Apr 2016 #45

Bingo! MineralMan Apr 2016 #49

It worked out horribly in 2000. The least popular candidate was installed. n/t cureautismnow Apr 2016 #52

The electoral college is terrible for California. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #19

I disagree... Blanks Apr 2016 #27

Why should the vote of a rural dweller matter more in the direction of the country than an urbanite? Kentonio Apr 2016 #41

When congress was established... Blanks Apr 2016 #42

^^^ this. (and your comment above it as well) ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #44

I don't side with the rural areas on much... Blanks Apr 2016 #47

I'm very much less certain. I think we will determine the winner by the national popular vote JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #53

The Republican establishment candidate. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #3

Forgot about that and another reasons to DEMAND the end of that archaic bullshit Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #5

Send a letter to your Congressperson about that! Baobab Apr 2016 #31

That should have been rethought Skink Apr 2016 #6

I think Clinton would still get 270+ in that scenario. Garrett78 Apr 2016 #15

No, because the votes wouldn't be equally divided in every state. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #17

The west coast states would be the biggest concern. Garrett78 Apr 2016 #22

Each state delegation (the representatives in each state) get one vote. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #33

Then it would be 1948 again Proud Public Servant Apr 2016 #7

Maybe the next time Hillary and Donald are at their Delaware business address they can discuss it. Baobab Apr 2016 #32

Not going to happen. kaiserhog Apr 2016 #8

A five way race. The Green Party already exists and will probably have a candidate JDPriestly Apr 2016 #10

If it as you say... auntpurl Apr 2016 #12

Bombshell win for HR Baobab Apr 2016 #36

I'd like to see that. Throd Apr 2016 #16

It's going to be Trump VS Clinton and it's going to be CLOSE hollowdweller Apr 2016 #20

Nope, wont be close if it is Drumpf - but the GOP will say that a lot. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #23

The country would be better off. The two party system is a problem. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #24

That seems to be the only reason, now, for keeping EC. Which is why I am for dumping it. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #25

I agree with you 100% on that. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #50

The Green Party is on the ballot in all 50 states. Jill is not on the ticket, yet. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #26

Will there be an open primary? I understand those are the only fair ones. brooklynite Apr 2016 #35

I don't think they're on all 50 state's ballots yet.... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #38

Neither could win, but the one that attracts the most voters will decide the election. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #28

No this would not help us at all Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #29

It's-not-possible brooklynite Apr 2016 #34

That is true. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #40

Trump should fire up the 'Reform' party... Blanks Apr 2016 #39

interesting concept. warrprayer Apr 2016 #51

If no one gets to 270, here's what happens: cureautismnow Apr 2016 #54

We might get Trump and Bernie. rateyes Apr 2016 #55