2016 Postmortem

athena

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95. I wish you had been honest in your OP.

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:53 PM

Apr 2016

It's amusing that you should be complimenting others on their honesty when you began this whole thing with a dishonest statement.

There is a big difference between Hillary and her supporters. You attributed Hillary's supporters' feelings to Hillary herself. And you did it knowingly, thinking you were hurting Hillary by doing so. As so often happens with these things, you ended up shooting yourself in the foot by alerting Hillary supporters to a wonderful article by one of their own. It feels great to read one's feelings expressed so eloquently.

From now on, whenever I see a Bernie supporter on DU threatening not to vote in the general election for Hillary, I will simply post your article and quote from it. It will save me so much time not to have to put it all into my own words.

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Hillary doesn't need or want Bernie's supporters votes in the general election. [View all] aikoaiko Apr 2016 OP

Well JackInGreen Apr 2016 #1

Why don't we let Hillary speak for herself on this? nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #104

It just might piss off another quarter of Bernie supporters or even another 1/2 bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #108

Another asshole blogger. So what, the Internet is full of them emulatorloo Apr 2016 #2

The People's Review, Hillary’s approved propaganda outlet run by Brock riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #15

Is Brock a spokesperson for the Democratic Party? No emulatorloo Apr 2016 #23

Aren't you the guy who professes to be a media expert? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #31

Yeah I studied mass-media in college. Not an expert, but I know assholes when I see them emulatorloo Apr 2016 #43

Mic drop nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #35

Nadin I am trashing 'Trevor LaFauci'. emulatorloo Apr 2016 #51

Given I have read these same words here... nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #63

Hi Nadin emulatorloo Apr 2016 #67

How do you know Brock runs it? NT Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #60

So Bernie must answer for every "asshole blogger"... ljm2002 Apr 2016 #64

Did I say that? Nope. emulatorloo Apr 2016 #79

You dismissed the post in question... ljm2002 Apr 2016 #84

So 'Trevor' is not an asshole? emulatorloo Apr 2016 #86

Yet "another asshole blogger" was the source of "BerniBros" jeff47 Apr 2016 #78

Ok he's a paid asshole. Still an asshole. Still worthy of dismissal. emulatorloo Apr 2016 #81

More popcorn, not even November. Kittycat Apr 2016 #85

The article refers to 'Bernie or Bust' individuals… if someone declares they won't vote for you KittyWampus Apr 2016 #3

Please proceed. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #5

I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR YOU!!! = Okay, then I'll engage voters who will. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #12

So you're plan to help HRC win is to engage voters who are already willing to vote for her. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #20

I think you make the case - politely - as to why they should change their position karynnj Apr 2016 #62

I have hit "Bye, Felicia" levels of discontent with the party VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #4

I flipped to "Democratic" for this primary. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #10

Apparently you don't understand that the Democratic Party is a coalition. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #13

How is telling voters on the left that their votes are not needed NOR wanted coalition building? aikoaiko Apr 2016 #24

It's not a smart letter, but it's only telling that to those who have said they won't vote anyways. randome Apr 2016 #44

The harm is that by pushing away 25% of Bernie supporters who might be brought back to the party... aikoaiko Apr 2016 #48

A coalition is reciprocal. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #27

The gulf is mainly Clinton having actual solutions and Sanders offering empty rhetoric- KittyWampus Apr 2016 #38

Many economists have endorsed Sanders proposals. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #47

Correct, and it is or has become a center right business friendly coalition nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #39

Coalition? That is your best one yet artislife Apr 2016 #42

I went from an "I" to a "D" specifically to support Bernie. I think I'll change back when this is monmouth4 Apr 2016 #11

I changed back when I got home from the caucus. TransitJohn Apr 2016 #54

I didn't have to change from Independent to Democrat in North Carolina BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #83

None of my responses to Mr. LaFauci would survive an alert. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #6

1/4 of Sanders supporters bigtree Apr 2016 #7

I just love this new found honesty from HRC, Inc. So refreshing to know exactly where one stands. nc4bo Apr 2016 #8

OK that's it. We may vote Sanders even if Clinton gets the nod. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #9

Another goddamned "supporters" thread. n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #14

That's it, in the nuttiest nutshell yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #16

Trevor LaFauci is an asshole. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #17

A Madam President vs. A Madman President JaneyVee Apr 2016 #18

It's not up to me. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #28

Actually, this is good to know. Kind of like a release of liability. nt cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #19

I have been a Dem my whole life, have always voted straight ticket. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #21

That is the saddest thing that died this year for me artislife Apr 2016 #46

re: "The Democratic Party doesn't want or need your vote." thesquanderer Apr 2016 #22

Peoplespew blog. What a worthless little hack he is. Autumn Apr 2016 #25

Here's hoping for fewer and fewer posts like this from supporters of both BootinUp Apr 2016 #26

Incorrect - Hillary cares about Bernie supports and wants their support - she just may not need it MariaThinks Apr 2016 #29

"We don't need your votes." - Is that the new slogan for the GE? redgreenandblue Apr 2016 #30

Ah yes, back again by popular demand...Idiocracy Productions presents... Zorra Apr 2016 #32

Got it. Just don't blame us. HassleCat Apr 2016 #33

LOL TransitJohn Apr 2016 #58

Years later HassleCat Apr 2016 #61

If Sanders ran as an Independent in the GE WhiteTara Apr 2016 #71

Problem is HassleCat Apr 2016 #73

If he asks, there would be NO blame WhiteTara Apr 2016 #90

Is that you Roger Stone? no_hypocrisy Apr 2016 #34

I'm not going to coddle anyone RandySF Apr 2016 #36

You finally get it. I thought it was going to take forever. Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #41

I "got it" a long time ago. RandySF Apr 2016 #49

It's some guy's blog post. It's not from the Clinton campaign. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #37

It's a blog that has been incessently cited by Camp Clinton this cycle Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #59

Yeah. I see what you're saying. But that isn't Hillary's sentiment. Any politician wants LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #68

And pimped here by the HRC crowd, and TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #66

It's a blog. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #69

Promoted shamelessly by the Hillbots. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #72

I would like to assert that not all HRC supporters BootinUp Apr 2016 #70

Silly, they aren't going to sit it out artislife Apr 2016 #40

Yes for the over 80% that can get behind Clinton. Threatening, attacking, accusing? seabeyond Apr 2016 #45

This man is as useless to HRC as Goodman is to Sanders karynnj Apr 2016 #50

It makes no sense to say that non-voters Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #52

I noticed that, too. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #56

They could, but they won't. athena Apr 2016 #91

"Sitting out"? Not likely. eom TransitJohn Apr 2016 #53

Maybe so, but they were going to vote in the GE. There is more to political life than The Party aikoaiko Apr 2016 #55

Thanks for making it an easier decision. n/t Lodestar Apr 2016 #57

No problem randr Apr 2016 #65

The ONLY people I hear saying that are disgruntled Bernie supporters online.... Hekate Apr 2016 #74

And now you see a HRC blogger say it. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #92

Uh huh. Hillary says "unite" and I read here that she said "go pound sand" & "we don't need you." Hekate Apr 2016 #105

She has time to earn my vote. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #106

Sure Hekate Apr 2016 #107

That's OK. I'll stick to just holding her accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #75

You will have just reinforced what the author said. tonyt53 Apr 2016 #76

Neener-neeners from someone who doesn't understand politics. n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #77

The Democratic Party BigMin28 Apr 2016 #80

It's true, they don't want us and they don't need us. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #82

Easy to see who Hillary and their supporters want to court beedle Apr 2016 #87

Cool, recall the Unitybots whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #88

I love this article. athena Apr 2016 #89

I thank you for being honest with yourself and others aikoaiko Apr 2016 #93

I wish you had been honest in your OP. athena Apr 2016 #95

The author of the article is saying HRC and her supporters don't need or want Bernie supporters aikoaiko Apr 2016 #96

The article is by a Hillary supporter. It is the opinion of a Hillary supporter. athena Apr 2016 #97

I did not say Hillary said it herself and I did not say I would not vote for HRC. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #98

Look at your OP title. athena Apr 2016 #99

The title does not imply that Hillary said the words. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #100

"Hillary doesn't need or want your vote" athena Apr 2016 #102

No it doesn't. Words have meanings. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #103

You win Fuck Head (the writer, not the original poster) catnhatnh Apr 2016 #94

Ok then, JeffHead Apr 2016 #101

Good to know. Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #109