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2016 Postmortem

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senz

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Mon May 2, 2016, 06:41 PM May 2016

Obama Supports Bernie on the Issues and is Critical of Hillary [View all]

On Feb. 16, 2016, President Obama attended a summit of leaders of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations at Sunnylands in Rancho Mirage, California, where he gave a speech followed by a press conference. During the Q & A period, a reporter reminded him that “Hillary has been casting herself as the rightful heir to your legacy and the one, the candidate who will be the keeper of your legacy, while also saying the Bernie Sanders has been disloyal to you. Is she right?”

President Obama gave a politically careful reply, saying that he “knows Hillary better than I know Bernie because she served in my administration and she was an outstanding Secretary of State. And I suspect that on certain issues she agrees with me more than Bernie does. On the other hand, there may be a couple issues where Bernie agrees with me more. I don’t know. I haven’t studied their positions that closely.”

He then went on to list the principles that Democratic voters believe in. Every principle listed by President Obama perfectly matches Bernie’s long-held stands on the issues and several made subtle -- and not so subtle -- criticisms of Hillary Clinton.

The President said:

Here’s what I have confidence in — that Democratic voters believe in certain principles. They believe in equal opportunity. They believe in making sure that every kid in this country gets a fair shot. They believe in making sure that economic growth is broad-based and everybody benefits from it, and if you work hard you’re not in poverty. They believe in preserving a strong safety net through programs like Social Security and Medicare. They believe in a foreign policy that is not reckless, that is tough and protects the American people but doesn’t shoot before it aims. They believe in climate change. They think science matters. They think that it’s important for us to have some basic regulations to keep our air clean and our water clean, and to make sure that banks aren’t engaging in excesses that can result in the kind of thing that we saw in 2007 and 2008. So there’s a broad convergence of interests around those issues.


President Obama listed six major principles that Democratic voters believe in:
  1. They believe in equal opportunity. They believe in making sure that every kid in this country gets a fair shot.

  2. They believe in making sure that economic growth is broad-based and everybody benefits from it and if you work hard you’re not in poverty.

  3. They believe in preserving a strong safety net through programs like Social Security and Medicare.

  4. They believe in a foreign policy that is not reckless, that is tough and protects the American people but doesn’t shoot before it aims.

  5. They believe in climate change. They think science matters. They think that it’s important for us to have some basic regulations to keep our air clean and our water clean,

  6. and to make sure that banks aren’t engaging in excesses that can result in the kind of thing that we saw in 2007 and 2008.

Closer examination:

1. “Equal opportunity, every kid in this country gets a fair shot.” Bernie has long been a solid advocate educational fairness for children and youth. As an advocate for universal childcare and prekindergarten, in 2011 Bernie introduced the Foundations for Success Act, which would have awarded a grant to ten states allowing them to create an Early Care and Education System. In 2014, together with John Conyers, Bernie proposed a youth jobs and job training program for disadvantaged young Americans. Bernie is the only candidate to propose tuition-free public colleges and universities.

2. “They believe in making sure that economic growth is broad-based and everybody benefits from it, and if you work hard you’re not in poverty.” This is a direct reference to income inequality. Income inequality is the central issue of Bernie’s economic platform. Throughout his campaign, Bernie has proclaimed, “No one who works 40 hours a week should be living in poverty.” Bernie is the only candidate who proposed increasing the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour. Bernie has always fought against trade policies that export millions of jobs, while Hillary was a vocal proponent of the job-killing NAFTA, WTO/GATT and, until recently, the TPP. He has long fought for workers’ rights, for the right to collectively bargain for better wages and benefits, for a living wage, and gender wage equality.

3. “A strong safety net through programs like Social Security and Medicare.” Strengthening and expanding Social Security and Medicare are Bernie Sanders’ core issues. He has worked to preserve them his entire legislative career. He has fought against any reductions to these programs, no matter which party suggested them.

4. “A foreign policy that is not reckless” and “doesn’t shoot before it aims.” Hillary Clinton and President Obama hold deep policy differences on foreign affairs. Her recklessness as SOS has caused serious, long-lasting problems in several countries, most notably Libya, Syria and Honduras. Her reckless actions could mar the president’s legacy. Bernie Sanders has been correct in resisting every failed U.S. intervention in recent history and his foreign policy proposals take a wise, cautious approach that is closer to the President's.

5. “Climate change. Basic regulations to keep our air clean and our water clean.” Bernie’s environmental record is excellent. In the first Democratic debate, Bernie was the only candidate who said climate change in answer to a question about the worst problem facing the world today. Hillary’s backers include some of the worst polluters in the world. As Secretary of State, Hillary urged fracking for other countries.

6. “To make sure that banks aren’t engaging in excesses that can result in the kind of thing that we saw in 2007 and 2008.” The banking excesses that caused the crash of 2008 were a result of Bill Clinton’s elimination of Glass-Steagall. Bernie led the fight in 1999 to defend Glass-Steagall's provisions and currently is a co-sponsor of the Elizabeth Warren/John McCain bill to reinstate those provisions. Hillary opposes the restoration of Glass-Steagall. Bernie has a well-thought out set of reforms for Wall Street excesses. Bernie favors breaking up the big banks. Hillary does not. Wall Street is the largest contributor to the HRC campaign and was also the primary audience for her secret speeches.

Video and transcript: http://www.shallownation.com/2016/02/16/video-president-obama-press-conference-tues-feb-16-2016-rancho-mirage-california/ (The Q&A is at the end, this segment starts around 32:30)
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You left out the most important part! tonyt53 May 2016 #1
Did you not read the links referencing their foreign policy disagreements? senz May 2016 #3
Actually she when behind his back and had a side deal with Sid against Obama's wishes NWCorona May 2016 #4
If that were so then Kerry's tenure would be as hawkish as Clinton's RufusTFirefly May 2016 #15
Kerry and Hillary are night and day as SOS. senz May 2016 #37
Yup. So much for the "just following orders" meme n/t RufusTFirefly May 2016 #39
Nope. She went behind his back. 840high May 2016 #40
Interesting on your #7, Sanders is now going with Hillary on Dodd Frank, he was not able to give Thinkingabout May 2016 #2
Quite an impressive post -- Kudos for the thought and research Armstead May 2016 #5
Thanks, Armstead senz May 2016 #8
excellent compilation, thanks for posting! amborin May 2016 #6
Thanks, amborin senz May 2016 #50
He talks a good game but his own record is somewhat spotty when it comes to these principles tularetom May 2016 #7
I still believe that Obama would have done more of these things senz May 2016 #9
So Hillary is a willing tool of the establishment, but Obama siding with the establishment Maven May 2016 #11
Obama doesn't hang with the 1% and doesn't trade political influence senz May 2016 #14
Um, he doesn't? Maven May 2016 #55
Nailed it, Maven....... the standards are always different for Clinton. bettyellen May 2016 #49
My guess is that it's much more the PTB than the Republicans RufusTFirefly May 2016 #16
Excellent OP! Punkingal May 2016 #10
I agree with you. I think he adopted LBJ's philosophy RufusTFirefly May 2016 #18
lol, that is so LBJ senz May 2016 #27
Bullshit. seabeyond May 2016 #12
Based on ..... ? libdem4life May 2016 #13
Like most African-Americans though, Obama still trusts Hillary to carry this stuff forward Tarc May 2016 #17
Doesn't sound like it if you read what he said ... senz May 2016 #19
The difference though, is that both Obama and Clinton are genuine, committed party members Tarc May 2016 #22
Hillary is not "genuine" anything senz May 2016 #23
lol, dodging the point to take continued potshots Tarc May 2016 #26
Bernie's main concern is for the American people. senz May 2016 #29
Too bad he can't trade em for, y'know, enough votes to win an election Tarc May 2016 #35
Ohhh, you must be one of those Hill Bros senz May 2016 #36
There are certain groups of people that I do not desire to have respect from Tarc May 2016 #52
CDS is in full bloom tonight, I see. okasha May 2016 #42
Ahh, well I love glimpsing senz May 2016 #44
Congrats on keeping your job. okasha May 2016 #47
Sweetie I'm a little old retired lady. :) senz May 2016 #51
Congrats on keeping your part-time job. okasha May 2016 #53
If you're happy with yourself senz May 2016 #54
Congrats on keeping your part-time job. okasha May 2016 #56
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #20
Obama is right. Hillary and Bernie agree on those core principles. YouDig May 2016 #21
Those are Bernie's core principles senz May 2016 #24
And Hillary's. Like Obama said. YouDig May 2016 #25
You sure are trying hard to fit Hill in with Bernie's views. senz May 2016 #32
Obama disagrees with you, as do I. Next time, if you want to quote Obama to support your case, YouDig May 2016 #34
Nope, just read the OP -- and think. senz May 2016 #43
I read the actual Obama part. The rest was nonsense. YouDig May 2016 #46
Apparently they voted the same 93% of the time. JaneyVee May 2016 #28
Hill's been running for president ever since she left the WH. senz May 2016 #30
2008? JaneyVee May 2016 #31
You must make it up as you go along senz May 2016 #33
Imagine that, Bernie agrees so much with the President Progressive dog May 2016 #38
That's when the President slipped, temporarily, on #3 senz May 2016 #41
The president is much closer to Hillary on how to Progressive dog May 2016 #48
Desperate Bernie post of the day Onlooker May 2016 #45
Thank you for saving me the trouble of saying it. nt nolawarlock May 2016 #58
K&R. Remember when Obama specifically forbade Clinton to consult Blumenthal on foreign policy? Betty Karlson May 2016 #57
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