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Baobab

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35. If you can find the Baucus hearings from 2009, buried in there there are some very imteresting
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

discussions about SCHIP that explain all sorts of things about it- which surprised me at least..

the health insurance companies hate it and I got the distinct impression from the hearings that they had extracted promises that it was going to go away soon. (this was in 2009, I would love to be wrong) Key phrase they kept using "too attractive" another phrase "crowd out" - they used that a lot. "crowd-out" as in it cannot take away core customers from insurers.. it can only help people who could not afford it otherwise. That crowd out is problematic. the same concept comes up with other forms of public services now and its a creature of the GATS and its adoption of so called "competition policy"

There were also some strange comments in there about the Hyde Amendment- (I think that was it) people dont realize it but right wing churches make huge huge unregulated money off of adoptions and for that reason don't want young mothers to have access to affordable health care so they could keep their babies..

There is all sorts of strange stuff in there.

maybe they have it on some web site somewhere. I watched them on CSPAN and recorded them to dvds which I have somewhere. crappy cheap DVDs. 6 hours a pop.

I think they may no longer play but then they may. If I find them I would be willing to digitize / compress them and upload them somewhere.



FactCheck says you're wrong. Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #1
...... Florencenj2point0 May 2016 #3
And this poster knows that, yet is till posting lies! Also claiming trade deals killed SCHIP when bettyellen May 2016 #5
The rules are very complicated but they include a "standstill" on new finacial services Baobab May 2016 #12
CHIP is an ongoing program that has been expanded in the years past your citations. Period. bettyellen May 2016 #13
But in 1994-1995 Biil Clinton signed GATS, and GATS threatens SCHIP, Medicare and Medicaid Baobab May 2016 #46
Here is some really good, informative proof, everybody please read this Baobab May 2016 #43
Wait, I thought lobbyists were bad? Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #55
+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #51
If Clinton was agin it, why did he sign it into law in 1997? Hoyt May 2016 #2
Maybe because the Understanding on Committment in Financial Services was right around the corner Baobab May 2016 #14
More likely, it is the best health care reform they could get at the time -- for children. Hoyt May 2016 #27
Hoyt, this is your golden opportunity, what is good about GATS? Baobab May 2016 #29
Why are you and perhaps a few others seemingly the only persons who see my posts about trade deals. Baobab May 2016 #30
No one understands your posts about GATS, nor does anyone believe a law passed in the 1990s will Hoyt May 2016 #33
You're trying to portray me as some kind of outlier but the fact is, these deals are opposed Baobab May 2016 #34
Not trying to portray you as anything. You asked my opinion why no one reads your posts on GATS. Hoyt May 2016 #36
Hoyt, I was talking about robots. About our creating new life Baobab May 2016 #40
Hillary created SCHIP Florencenj2point0 May 2016 #4
She created it with some help? Evidence please. nt vintx May 2016 #8
What the Hillary supporters mean by that is that at one point Hillary must have said she was strong pdsimdars May 2016 #32
What amounts to a global war on children's health for big corpos began under Clints Baobab May 2016 #25
CHIP still exists and has been EXPANDED despite your eight year old link saying it is doomed. OP is bettyellen May 2016 #6
Thats not what Nick Skalas's paper says - READ IT. Why are you so afraid of it? Baobab May 2016 #18
Why are you arguing CHIP is not successful or has been expanded? Facts are stubborn things. bettyellen May 2016 #22
If you can find the Baucus hearings from 2009, buried in there there are some very imteresting Baobab May 2016 #35
There are dozens of Finance committee hearings on health care karynnj May 2016 #60
This article supports your recollection: vintx May 2016 #7
Kennedy gave her a whole lot of credit for CHIP, until he was backing Obama after which he soft bettyellen May 2016 #16
Post the citations vintx May 2016 #17
"program wouldn’t be in existence today if we didn’t have Hillary pushing for it " EM Kennedy bettyellen May 2016 #19
They did say in their article that it was politics that caused the lack of support in the first go vintx May 2016 #24
I'm not taking Orrin Hatch or Mc Caine's words over Kennedy or HRC's. YMMV. bettyellen May 2016 #26
Ive attempted to explain GATS a number of times-its a global agenda Baobab May 2016 #37
Nope, CHIP and minimum wage are here to stay.... bettyellen May 2016 #47
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #48
Minimum wage will be increased in a year as long as Trump does not win. The crap you post is not bettyellen May 2016 #49
They were pushing GATS, which literally eliminates the rights to health and education for corporatio Baobab May 2016 #28
He always gave her credit for supporting it karynnj May 2016 #61
Im surprised Factcheck would not clarify that too, but thanks for the fuller explanation. bettyellen May 2016 #62
A good book by a Kennedy aide, Nick Littlefield, gives a lot of back story karynnj May 2016 #63
Arrant nonsense. Sparkly May 2016 #9
The trade policy picture is complicated. Which is shown by this document from Maine. Baobab May 2016 #21
Paraphrase it for me, please? Sparkly May 2016 #52
'Medicare for All "will NEVER come to pass".' dchill May 2016 #10
Get the quote right. Sparkly May 2016 #11
Thanks. dchill May 2016 #15
"program wouldn’t be in existence today if we didn’t have Hillary pushing for it" -Edward Kennedy bettyellen May 2016 #20
It does if you read the words. Sparkly May 2016 #53
No, you THINK it does. dchill May 2016 #57
You "remember this" but can;t find a single citation to back up her "opposition". Shame on you. bettyellen May 2016 #23
Countries cannot propose or maintain any law or policy that is inconsistent with the FTA Baobab May 2016 #39
Would imply? It is not happening. And not going to, all these years later. bettyellen May 2016 #44
This shows what I am talking about, if you look at page 7 Baobab May 2016 #45
They have been pretty much on the wrong side of everything. pdsimdars May 2016 #31
It is not true Demsrule86 May 2016 #42
k&r nt bananas May 2016 #38
Why lie? Demsrule86 May 2016 #41
In fact if you read about teh GATS trade deal in 1994, you'll see that it conflicts with SCHIP Baobab May 2016 #50
A wall of blue links doesn't change the fact that CHIP/SCHIP have been increased, not decreased Recursion May 2016 #58
That is lame completely lame Demsrule86 May 2016 #59
It's all he has. Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #56
Orwellian disinformation ProgressiveEconomist May 2016 #54
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