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2016 Postmortem

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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:35 PM May 2016

There is a much biggger picture than just Bernie vs HRC supporters [View all]

it might become clearer to all of you someday.

Suffice it to say, that yes dedazos have a consequence. One of those consequences is that those elected by those tactics, whether perceived or real, lead to a lack of legitimacy. When you have some people thinking this, whatever, But when you have strong minorities then you have other problems.

As far as the party base is concerned this year it is starting to look like a good swath does not believe the election is legitimate. That will lead to people staying home. Which incidentally is a consequence of this. Do not blame the voter, for party fuck ups. Also do not blame the voters for the ugliness that is emerging from different states and caucuses. They are the ones creating this impression that this election is compromised.

I grew up in a country where we voted, just to remain in practice. You know, someday it might matter. I am seeing that attitude far more spread in the uS anymore You can manage the illusion for only so long, and yes, the nominating convention for both parties has potential... and not precisely of being a snoozer, PR show managed by the party bosses.

This photo should send chills down your back...

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It sure sends chills mine. I suspect it's a preview of coming attractions.



And I had far more to say today, but am afraid I really should keep those thoughts away from here at this point.

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This is Du, if you are trashing Hillary you are allowed to say anything you want. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #1
As I said, I had far more to say about the bigger picture nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #2
I got it before you were a gleam if you know what I mean...The irony of this Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #6
What pointing out to reality is not doing a thing nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #10
This is how liberals should greet or point out Bernie or Busters or the handful of Hillary or buster Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #11
You will keep missing it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #13
My tactic is solely to stop drumpf from power. If you arent doing that, you are very very wrong Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #16
Alas you have no idea what I am or am not doing nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #18
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #106
Anyone who thinks Hillary and Drumpf are remotely similar, is a very confused Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #122
And you will do it no matter what cheating has gone on with this side. bkkyosemite May 2016 #128
That is so perfect. Jezebel Jackson May 2016 #56
LOL pmorlan1 May 2016 #14
Alas the article has run nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #15
Dear Nadinb, do not engage with those who have only been 7wo7rees May 2016 #38
I know, I know there are times that they are just cute nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #51
Maybe If you dealing with someone other than a Katashi_itto May 2016 #84
Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #89
Looks like the graduating class of May 2016 is out in the field. frylock May 2016 #102
You really arent qualified to discuss media matters, let alone criticize it. Actor May 2016 #124
. Katashi_itto May 2016 #129
I'm perfectly qualified to call out that Brockaganda organ. frylock May 2016 #134
Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #88
Trumps wins only After Hillary steals the Primary. bahrbearian May 2016 #9
Plus none is trashing HRC, in that OP nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #12
We all get it. Jezebel Jackson May 2016 #58
That is what you believe... ok nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #60
You knew pretty quick what was implying about your implications ... Jezebel Jackson May 2016 #65
.. frylock May 2016 #101
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #103
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #107
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #109
If Hillary isn't willing to earn their vote, that's on her Sejon May 2016 #26
If kissing their behinds and adopting a platform that is Bernie's and not hers is earning their vote politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #77
What concessions has she made? Sejon May 2016 #78
Jackie Wilson Said—You should not worry… CobaltBlue May 2016 #30
There it is, blame the black folks. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #42
Jackie Wilson Said—I did not write that. CobaltBlue May 2016 #45
Ugh. It's ignore time for that one. snort May 2016 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #73
-15 Penalty. Yet another non sequitur from poster. Katashi_itto May 2016 #82
Whaaat? arikara May 2016 #92
Are you coming out soon? frylock May 2016 #104
Also blame the Bernie supporters creeksneakers2 May 2016 #79
creeksneakers2—Not at all. CobaltBlue May 2016 #80
You keep telling then you do not need them nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #100
I'm not the one saying we don't need them. creeksneakers2 May 2016 #121
Here is a huge news flash nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #123
Hillary has reached out creeksneakers2 May 2016 #126
You guys keep the negative messaging nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #127
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #108
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #63
bah, where were you when I wanted to make a Shadowrun comment yesterday. No fair. =( Shandris May 2016 #3
I was watchign Civil War at the theater nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #5
Damn. Supposed to go see that with a group of friends next week. frylock May 2016 #105
Then you will be fine nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #118
I have been thinking that if someone were conspiring to divide the Democratic Party, bemildred May 2016 #4
I think this is truly a civil war nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #8
Oh I do too, but I wonder at their enthusiasm, they must be fools and ideologues, bemildred May 2016 #17
Well the Ds are now a conservative right wing party nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #19
Ouch. nt bemildred May 2016 #20
K&R Scuba May 2016 #7
Good point, nadin. senz May 2016 #21
Good post, senz. Uncle Joe May 2016 #22
Thanks, Uncle Joe senz May 2016 #24
To this day they try nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #23
The first one is frightening. I hope it means senz May 2016 #28
The first one to be fair, is a common theme in Mexico for decades nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #35
This post deserves its own thread. arikara May 2016 #93
Good thread, kick (nt) Babel_17 May 2016 #25
This lies squarely at the feet of the candidate who silvershadow May 2016 #27
Attacking a popular CA dem is a BRILLIANT strategy right before the CA primary. JoePhilly May 2016 #29
Someday you will get it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #32
She said from on high. JoePhilly May 2016 #34
History has a way of teaching people nasty lessons nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #37
I can't wait. JoePhilly May 2016 #39
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #110
I get it now. JoePhilly May 2016 #119
The parties base consists of minorities and women. NCTraveler May 2016 #31
Someday you will get it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #33
That is reflective of the entitlement mentality we have been discussing. NCTraveler May 2016 #40
Yup. you are correct, it is, but not exactly the way you want it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #41
No. You hit it out of the park. Went something like this. NCTraveler May 2016 #44
And I mean it, someday you will understand what is happening nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #47
I'm not even close to angry. That's clear projection on your part. NCTraveler May 2016 #54
I said that YOU WILL not that YOU ARE nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #55
"I said that YOU WILL not that YOU ARE" NCTraveler May 2016 #62
To you as well nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #64
Please see post 60. NCTraveler May 2016 #74
Apparently ... JoePhilly May 2016 #36
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #111
The big picture is Hillary vs Trump. Bernie is out of the picture. YouDig May 2016 #43
Again, someday you might get it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #49
No need to be insulting. YouDig May 2016 #67
Actually it is not insulting to hope that someday you will get the much bigger picture nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #68
Yes it is. No need for that. YouDig May 2016 #71
I hope someday you do nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #72
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #112
Another one arikara May 2016 #97
They are looking for a fight and getting me to laugh nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #98
Wut?... SidDithers May 2016 #46
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #113
... CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #48
Bat signal went out nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #50
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #114
The police were there because Sanders supporters were throwing chairs and behaving horribly. Metric System May 2016 #52
You might get it someday nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #53
When the proper response to having your democracy stolen mooseprime May 2016 #57
We get it today. Our candidate won. Your candidate registered as a Democrat to piggy back on Trust Buster May 2016 #59
In your case, I do not expect it to get it ever, nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #61
You delude yourself into thinking that Hillary supporters give a tinkers damn about what you Trust Buster May 2016 #66
Here is the rub, I don't care nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #69
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #115
Brown shirts? or 68 Chicago convention? EndElectoral May 2016 #75
Something is in the air nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #76
So is Bernie going to pay for all of you to travel to Philly? Whimsey May 2016 #83
One big mistake of Hillary supporters is thinking Bernie supporters as unemployed lazy bums. B Calm May 2016 #85
Oh that is very ahem conservative of them nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #87
Touchy aren't you? Whimsey May 2016 #91
Too far to the east and north of my beat... but I do report on this shit nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #86
Yes. SOMETHING IN THE AIR senz May 2016 #120
K & R dreamnightwind May 2016 #81
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast May 2016 #90
I have to say, the tone of condescension you use auntpurl May 2016 #94
Here to help you nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #99
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #116
Those who stay home will pay the price if tRump becomes president. MoonRiver May 2016 #95
Someday you will get it zappaman May 2016 #117
I already do get it. MoonRiver May 2016 #132
Based on your post, you don't nt tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #133
Well then if it comes to that senz May 2016 #125
Yep. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #96
90% of black voters voting D in every election doesn't equal the party base? YoungDemCA May 2016 #130
Someday you will get it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #131
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