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appalachiablue

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47. Thomas Frank: Bill Clinton's Five Major Accomplishments Were Longstanding GOP Objectives.
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:40 AM
May 2016

May 15, Truthout, - Thomas Frank: Bill Clinton's Five Major Accomplishments Were Longstanding GOP Objectives.-

Thomas Frank, author of Listen, Liberal, discusses the Hillary Doctrine's basis in neoliberalism, how the Democratic Party stopped governing on behalf of the working class and how President Bill Clinton's major achievements actually enacted conservative goals, and ultimately hurt working people.

Mark Karlin: The innovation class, the creative class, the wealthy class, the professional class with Ivy League degrees: How did President Obama become the avatar for believing these groups should be the decision makers in government?

Thomas Frank: Obama thinks such people should be in charge because they came up through the same system as him. "Because he himself was a product of the great American postwar meritocracy," his biographer Jonathan Alter writes, "he could never fully escape seeing the world from the status ladder he had ascended."

Most of our other Democratic leaders (the Clintons, for example) came up the same way and believe the same thing. Indeed, what Alter describes is standard-issue stuff for Democrats these days. The Democrats are a class party in the fullest sense of the phrase, and the class whose perspective they reflect and whose interests they serve is the highly educated, white-collar professional class. Theirs is a liberalism of the rich.

Can you describe a little about what you call "The Hillary Doctrine," including how microlending is a good example of her belief in opening doors of entrepreneurship to solve the world's economic problems?

..You can see the appeal of this movement: It's telling you that the solution to poverty is not unions or government or anything like that, but for everyone to work hard and start their own businesses -- and, incidentally, to extend the reach of Western financial institutions to every village on the planet. A pure win-win. Everyone feels good. Everyone feels virtuous.

Except for the people who live in those countries, of course, because they know it doesn't work. You don't build a country's economy by having everyone buy a goat and sell milk to one another. All these people have to show for this strategy is debt. Some empowerment.

I was captivated by your description of Hillary Clinton being surrounded by a "microclimate of virtue." Can you describe what you mean by that and how it was represented in your section, "No Ceilings," that included Melinda Gates and a panel to show how much women in power "cared" for poor women? I love your sardonic description, "the presenters called out to one another in tones of gracious supportiveness and flattery so sweet it bordered on idolatry."

More, http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/36035-thomas-frank-bill-clinton-s-five-major-achievements-were-longstanding-gop-objectives
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511967219

Stupid thing to say, stupid plan. morningfog May 2016 #1
No More bubbles, please! Baobab May 2016 #17
Thomas Frank: Bill Clinton's Five Major Accomplishments Were Longstanding GOP Objectives. appalachiablue May 2016 #47
He's right. I fear only a Dem can get conservative polictes enacted. DJ13 May 2016 #54
Probably the case, sorry to say. appalachiablue May 2016 #77
And then "The Left" gets the blame when things go to shit. arcane1 May 2016 #94
This. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #108
yes and they trash Obama AGAIN (!?) GreatGazoo May 2016 #68
The Warning; truth or dare? appalachiablue May 2016 #76
O M G montanacowboy May 2016 #2
Um...no thanks. Lecherous Willy hurt a few million of us badly with his earlier Globalist scams... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #3
'Clean Up Plan' Post Free Trade NAFTA, China, Finance Deregulation- Neoliberal Style? appalachiablue May 2016 #6
Clinton Campaigns in Kentucky Before Tuesday's Primary, ABC, May 15, 2016. appalachiablue May 2016 #19
What's that giant sucking sound? dchill May 2016 #52
So, is Hillary going to be President or Bill? Joe the Revelator May 2016 #4
Another two-fer, dunno. Can he be Secy. of Labor, or Treasury, seriously? appalachiablue May 2016 #7
Co-Presidents? Mix it up a little, something new.. appalachiablue May 2016 #28
Well, she's already suggested him for multiple roles... Docreed2003 May 2016 #46
Good question... Ino May 2016 #91
+1 appalachiablue May 2016 #97
You know, I don't think so.. pangaia May 2016 #104
I am sick of the Bush family. SamKnause May 2016 #5
+100 Silver_Witch May 2016 #34
This degenerate old fraud has already hurt America enough--keep him far away from policy! NewImproved Deal May 2016 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #8
Genuine folksy Americana there alright. appalachiablue May 2016 #12
and Hillary in red (like her arrow) GreatGazoo May 2016 #70
Excellent. Sounds good to me and will sound good to most Americans. nt stevenleser May 2016 #9
You jest. 840high May 2016 #13
Hopefully we wouldn't have to endure 8 years of peace and prosperity again redstateblues May 2016 #10
Oh, you are referring the time before the effects of NAFTA B Calm May 2016 #71
Wonder how many Worried senior May 2016 #90
if there's a stronger motivation for Repukes to get LibDemAlways May 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #14
There's a reason Bill is still popular, its the Economy Stupid. nt BootinUp May 2016 #15
Hindsight's 20/20 TDale313 May 2016 #33
Why do you blame Bill for Dubya's F'ups? BootinUp May 2016 #41
Bill & Hill's good friend Dubya was bad, but senz May 2016 #57
Works for me Zorro May 2016 #16
... NWCorona May 2016 #18
Yes, of course. NanceGreggs May 2016 #21
Cue up the pic of Bernie and his hero Fidel redstateblues May 2016 #24
Normally no but when those three people are NWCorona May 2016 #26
What people? NanceGreggs May 2016 #32
I think you have obviously NWCorona May 2016 #39
I have obviously what? n/t NanceGreggs May 2016 #40
Didn't you ask me to name someone who has taken notice? nt NWCorona May 2016 #42
The only thing ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #45
+5 appalachiablue May 2016 #37
Birds of a feather flock together. Silver_Witch May 2016 #31
This is terrible! NanceGreggs May 2016 #36
COOL!!!! n/t NanceGreggs May 2016 #20
lmao Hydra May 2016 #22
Ship off the last American jobs, turn the lights out USA. appalachiablue May 2016 #38
Through the entitlement reform he mentioned to Paul Ryan?... PoliticAverse May 2016 #23
Lot of 'Entitlement Reform' for Bill and Ryan the Budget Slasher- Medicare, SS, more. appalachiablue May 2016 #25
Maybe he's got another Internet bubble up his sleeve. Kall May 2016 #27
The Stock Market is not a key indicator for the economy BootinUp May 2016 #50
God help us. Fawke Em May 2016 #29
They might mean it too, dog help us for real. Difficult to fathom. appalachiablue May 2016 #75
This is why I will NOT vote for Hillary. Silver_Witch May 2016 #30
Fine points. Not electing Co-Presidents. I dislike dependency in able people, a lot. appalachiablue May 2016 #35
+ 1000 loyalsister May 2016 #55
They just want to micromanage the details of keeping the silvershadow May 2016 #43
To heck with us, the citizen chumps. Just preserve the legacy..ugh. appalachiablue May 2016 #98
I just mooseprime May 2016 #48
Good LORD. AzDar May 2016 #49
And I say, "Thanks for the warning!" dchill May 2016 #51
The truth. Take them at their word- remember 'The End of Big Govt. as We Know It'. appalachiablue May 2016 #99
Oh, I know! Now it's BIGGER government... dchill May 2016 #100
Wait who are we voting for again? northernsouthern May 2016 #53
Not Hillary or Clinton, not yet at least. highprincipleswork May 2016 #56
With Cleopatra, you get Marc Anthony; with Victoria, you get Albert; Buns_of_Fire May 2016 #58
Bill Clinton... ReRe May 2016 #59
K&R -- thanks for the OP, appalachiablue senz May 2016 #60
Over the hill PATRICK May 2016 #62
So much for indigant protests of being her own person, appalachiablue May 2016 #72
Can she not do the job herself? Prism May 2016 #61
This impression comes through strong now. Is it really what she wanted, or appalachiablue May 2016 #74
She's a strong, independent woman! Prism May 2016 #79
Also they pitched this in KY for the election tomorrow with talk of reviving appalachiablue May 2016 #85
I think as long as it is as Special Advisor to the underthematrix May 2016 #102
Ugh pmorlan1 May 2016 #63
Well, the early morning ABC News is all a twitter over "the job Hillary Clinton has in mind bjo59 May 2016 #64
I am not voting for Bill Clinton again. eShirl May 2016 #65
You can say that again. No way. appalachiablue May 2016 #66
Not voting for that. djean111 May 2016 #67
The guy who told congressional republicans and DINO's to pass NAFTA and he'll sign B Calm May 2016 #95
The man who said pass NAFTA and I'll be happy to sign it into law! B Calm May 2016 #69
The two for one madokie May 2016 #73
Sounds good to me...Bill Clinton created over 20 million jobs..Makes sense. asuhornets May 2016 #78
kick CountAllVotes May 2016 #80
So, we Elect the First Woman President & She puts her Hubby in Charge of the Economy? KoKo May 2016 #81
well, someone has to manage all those bribes AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #103
Is she going to be back to doing the White House Tours and Easter Egg Roll? KoKo May 2016 #111
Ok I got a question... nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #82
In other words while Hillary is busy passing more trade agreements that ship jobs to other countries Skwmom May 2016 #83
Sounds like the plan, but how long would he last away from the big power scene. appalachiablue May 2016 #112
Which Ecomony? Mexico again? Or Vietnam? Teamster Jeff May 2016 #84
...Thread Winner! Somebody get this on Twitter, Now! appalachiablue May 2016 #87
Cuba! AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #109
Let's play Jeopardy: ANSWER: "My husband is going to help me" FlatBaroque May 2016 #86
Hillary should lock Bill in a closet until after the election and never mention his name. Vinca May 2016 #88
Heard about the Epstein Mess too. And now the Trump woman appalachiablue May 2016 #89
No he can't! He has heart disease.....he's on a palo diet to buy ten years! ViseGrip May 2016 #92
I dunno...Dick Cheney is still going after having his first KoKo May 2016 #96
Can we finally give up the lie that Bill's ideas and policies are off-limits in this campaign? arcane1 May 2016 #93
holy anti-feminism, Batman! AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #101
Everything goes out the window now with the push for votes. After all the scolding appalachiablue May 2016 #106
will she be hand picking his interns? azurnoir May 2016 #105
That's right.. appalachiablue May 2016 #107
What an incredibly stupid thing to say doc03 May 2016 #110
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