HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Retired » Retired Forums » 2016 Postmortem (Forum) » Barbara Boxer feared for ... » Reply #174

Response to pdsimdars (Reply #160)

Fri May 20, 2016, 02:28 PM

174. And we are manipulated into wars using the exact same process

Presentation of non-supported allegations, repeated in so many different venues by so many establishment hacks who are getting their lead lines from the corporate-political pipeline, reinforce lies and misrepresentations to sell the American people on the need to attack people in foreign lands and spend all our money on the largest military machine ever seen on this planet.

It's worth looking at how this happens, how false or misleading premises are established as fact by endless repetition and selectively-edited quotes and clips.

I don't know if the majority of people will ever be capable of sorting through these kind of distortions to get any actual understanding of events. I doubt it.

So the only solution possible is to remove agendas from media. One way to do so is through democratization of media, such as what the internet allows. There are still distortions, but all sides are able to make their case, rather than only those who ally with corporate interests.

Another way is to prohibit for-profit corporations from doing news or political opinion on the airwaves or cable. A total non-profit news delivery model, with no corporate money allowed in the process. Kind of like what we need to do with our political campaigns.

We're not even close to having any actionable solution for this, nor even an agreed-on strategy. But until we do, the country will be running on consent given by people who are basing that consent on manufactured consensus and lies. And that''s no way to run a "democracy".

Reply to this post

Back to OP Alert abuse Link to post in-thread

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 231 replies Author Time Post
Bread and Circus May 2016 OP
pangaia May 2016 #1
Florencenj2point0 May 2016 #108
pangaia May 2016 #116
libdem4life May 2016 #197
MaeScott May 2016 #228
libdem4life May 2016 #229
Matrosov May 2016 #230
libdem4life May 2016 #231
scscholar May 2016 #2
Bread and Circus May 2016 #3
dchill May 2016 #20
merrily May 2016 #54
dchill May 2016 #58
merrily May 2016 #98
Silver_Witch May 2016 #105
merrily May 2016 #110
Silver_Witch May 2016 #216
merrily May 2016 #218
Silver_Witch May 2016 #220
pangaia May 2016 #118
dchill May 2016 #164
Yurovsky May 2016 #170
dchill May 2016 #172
Yurovsky May 2016 #176
sibelian May 2016 #191
truedelphi May 2016 #222
artislife May 2016 #124
Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #205
Duckhunter935 May 2016 #6
Art_from_Ark May 2016 #7
AzDar May 2016 #10
Art_from_Ark May 2016 #11
AzDar May 2016 #14
Darb May 2016 #90
cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #55
DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #122
Vattel May 2016 #135
merrily May 2016 #223
Scootaloo May 2016 #126
Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #207
Art_from_Ark May 2016 #226
Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #13
Silver_Witch May 2016 #107
derpderpderp May 2016 #127
merrily May 2016 #35
akbacchus_BC May 2016 #61
JRLeft May 2016 #87
trudyco May 2016 #4
merrily May 2016 #45
Duckhunter935 May 2016 #5
The Second Stone May 2016 #8
merrily May 2016 #46
HooptieWagon May 2016 #77
JonLeibowitz May 2016 #79
Flighty McFlight May 2016 #210
merrily May 2016 #80
sibelian May 2016 #192
trudyco May 2016 #139
LadyHawkAZ May 2016 #194
Luminous Animal May 2016 #9
cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #56
brush May 2016 #12
TM99 May 2016 #16
brush May 2016 #19
TM99 May 2016 #21
mindwalker_i May 2016 #43
merrily May 2016 #37
Silver_Witch May 2016 #112
pangaia May 2016 #119
hobbit709 May 2016 #175
Silver_Witch May 2016 #215
Amaril May 2016 #182
Silver_Witch May 2016 #214
whathehell May 2016 #15
senz May 2016 #17
whathehell May 2016 #23
senz May 2016 #24
whathehell May 2016 #26
senz May 2016 #29
notadmblnd May 2016 #32
senz May 2016 #36
shanti May 2016 #40
frylock May 2016 #57
lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #147
senz May 2016 #163
merrily May 2016 #41
LanternWaste May 2016 #88
merrily May 2016 #95
merrily May 2016 #44
FlatBaroque May 2016 #50
merrily May 2016 #52
senz May 2016 #60
merrily May 2016 #99
trudyco May 2016 #143
merrily May 2016 #145
lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #158
passiveporcupine May 2016 #65
merrily May 2016 #224
bunnies May 2016 #115
notadmblnd May 2016 #117
bunnies May 2016 #121
notadmblnd May 2016 #123
bunnies May 2016 #125
notadmblnd May 2016 #129
bunnies May 2016 #132
notadmblnd May 2016 #133
merrily May 2016 #42
libdem4life May 2016 #137
merrily May 2016 #140
libdem4life May 2016 #142
merrily May 2016 #146
libdem4life May 2016 #149
merrily May 2016 #150
libdem4life May 2016 #199
merrily May 2016 #219
merrily May 2016 #39
pdsimdars May 2016 #144
TM99 May 2016 #18
whathehell May 2016 #25
lapfog_1 May 2016 #31
whathehell May 2016 #91
lapfog_1 May 2016 #93
whathehell May 2016 #94
lapfog_1 May 2016 #97
whathehell May 2016 #189
notadmblnd May 2016 #33
TM99 May 2016 #34
whathehell May 2016 #85
TM99 May 2016 #179
whathehell May 2016 #186
TM99 May 2016 #193
whathehell May 2016 #195
TM99 May 2016 #196
whathehell May 2016 #200
passiveporcupine May 2016 #67
whathehell May 2016 #86
pdsimdars May 2016 #148
whathehell May 2016 #203
TM99 May 2016 #204
merrily May 2016 #38
Deb May 2016 #22
merrily May 2016 #47
Deb May 2016 #84
merrily May 2016 #96
whathehell May 2016 #92
senz May 2016 #165
whathehell May 2016 #183
senz May 2016 #188
whathehell May 2016 #190
Wednesdays May 2016 #171
dchill May 2016 #27
Autumn May 2016 #28
bjo59 May 2016 #30
merrily May 2016 #48
senz May 2016 #63
akbacchus_BC May 2016 #64
mooseprime May 2016 #69
pdsimdars May 2016 #151
merrily May 2016 #49
CajunBlazer May 2016 #51
TheFarS1de May 2016 #59
CajunBlazer May 2016 #66
TheFarS1de May 2016 #76
CajunBlazer May 2016 #213
truedelphi May 2016 #209
CajunBlazer May 2016 #217
senz May 2016 #72
truedelphi May 2016 #221
cheapdate May 2016 #53
Fumesucker May 2016 #62
cheapdate May 2016 #68
akbacchus_BC May 2016 #70
cheapdate May 2016 #73
akbacchus_BC May 2016 #74
Fumesucker May 2016 #71
cheapdate May 2016 #75
djean111 May 2016 #102
cheapdate May 2016 #130
djean111 May 2016 #134
cheapdate May 2016 #162
djean111 May 2016 #168
cheapdate May 2016 #181
cliffordu May 2016 #78
Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #109
cliffordu May 2016 #159
senz May 2016 #167
cliffordu May 2016 #227
jack_krass May 2016 #81
pdsimdars May 2016 #153
MFM008 May 2016 #82
cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #106
Scootaloo May 2016 #131
VOX May 2016 #83
JoePhilly May 2016 #100
still_one May 2016 #156
senz May 2016 #169
Darb May 2016 #89
silvershadow May 2016 #101
WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #103
Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #111
boomer55 May 2016 #104
dana_b May 2016 #113
liberalnarb May 2016 #114
Dr. Strange May 2016 #120
pdsimdars May 2016 #155
Scootaloo May 2016 #128
senz May 2016 #166
Scootaloo May 2016 #180
senz May 2016 #187
Maven May 2016 #136
pdsimdars May 2016 #157
MaeScott May 2016 #138
Babel_17 May 2016 #141
polly7 May 2016 #152
merrily May 2016 #154
pdsimdars May 2016 #160
senz May 2016 #173
LineLineReply And we are manipulated into wars using the exact same process
dreamnightwind May 2016 #174
edgineered May 2016 #208
mhatrw May 2016 #161
arcane1 May 2016 #177
Dem2 May 2016 #178
Attorney in Texas May 2016 #184
Name removed May 2016 #185
lovemydog May 2016 #198
apcalc May 2016 #201
whathehell May 2016 #225
artyteacher May 2016 #202
Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #206
azurnoir May 2016 #211
Capt. Obvious May 2016 #212
Please login to view edit histories.